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Date:      Tue, 13 Jan 2015 09:54:44 -0600
From:      Bryan Venteicher <bryanv@freebsd.org>
To:        Michael Tuexen <tuexen@fh-muenster.de>
Cc:        "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@freebsd.org>, John Nielsen <lists@jnielsen.net>, Bryan Venteicher <bryanv@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@freebsd.org>, John Baldwin <john@baldwin.cx>, "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bz@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r272886 - in head/sys: netinet netinet6
Message-ID:  <CAGaYwLd178OUY6CfPfSfDDKBMmpw1iXWKEVsrddL2ZToj0ppiA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Michael Tuexen <tuexen@fh-muenster.de>
wrote:

>
> > On 12 Jan 2015, at 18:42, Bjoern A. Zeeb <bz@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On 12 Jan 2015, at 15:51 , John Baldwin <john@baldwin.cx> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, January 06, 2015 07:07:11 PM Bryan Venteicher wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@freebsd.org>
> wrote:
> >>>> On 1/6/2015 4:00 PM, Bryan Venteicher wrote:
> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:52 PM, John Nielsen <lists@jnielsen.net
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <mailto:lists@jnielsen.net>> wrote:
> >>>>>   Bryan-
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   On Oct 10, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Bryan Venteicher <bryanv@freebsd.or=
g
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   <mailto:bryanv@freebsd.org>> wrote:
> >>>>>> Author: bryanv
> >>>>>> Date: Fri Oct 10 06:08:59 2014
> >>>>>> New Revision: 272886
> >>>>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/272886
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Log:
> >>>>>> Add context pointer and source address to the UDP tunnel callback
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> These are needed for the forthcoming vxlan implementation. The
> >>>>
> >>>> context
> >>>>
> >>>>>> pointer means we do not have to use a spare pointer field in the
> >>>>
> >>>> inpcb,
> >>>>
> >>>>>> and the source address is required to populate vxlan's forwarding
> >>>>
> >>>> table.
> >>>>
> >>>>>> While I highly doubt there is an out of tree consumer of the UDP
> >>>>>> tunneling callback, this change may be a difficult to eventually
> >>>>
> >>>> MFC.
> >>>>
> >>>>>   I noticed this comment while doing an MFC of vxlan to my local
> tree.
> >>>>>   Do you think an MFC to 10-STABLE of this change (and vxlan
> >>>>>   generally) will be feasible? Is there precedent for ABI changes
> like
> >>>>>   this being sanctioned? Could symbol versioning help?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'd like to get some consensus on whether this commit is OK to MFC.
> With
> >>>>> this commit, vxlan should be an easy to MFC.
> >>>>
> >>>> Breaking ABI will potentially hurt packages. FreeBSD builds packages
> for
> >>>> the oldest supported release on a branch. If you break ABI in 10.2
> while
> >>>> we are building packages for 10.1 then any packages using these
> >>>> interfaces may not work right or result in panics packages with kmod=
s.
> >>>> Please consider that.
> >>>
> >>> The only user visible change of this commit would be the addition of =
a
> >>> field at the end of 'struct udpcb'. I don't think that is a problem, =
at
> >>> least a similar change didn't prevent the MFC of UDP Lite.
> >>>
> >>> The kernel part of this changes the UDP tunneling functions which I
> guess
> >>> there could be a 3rd party module out there, but I very highly doubt
> that,
> >>> based on how un-useful the previous interface was.
> >>
> >> Userland should not be impacted by this at all.  (Nothing in userland
> cares
> >> about udpcb's internals.)  I think there was only ever one consumer fo=
r
> the
> >> existing UDP tunneling code (bz@ knows what it is).  I'm not sure
> where it
> >> lives.
> >
> > If you are talking about u_tun_func then it came from SCTP over UDP
> tunneling.  tuexen and rrs are your friends.
> rrs implemented it to support SCTP over UDP over IPv[46]. To be more
> precisely, to
> receive such packets.
>
>

So I am just being overly cautious and this change is fine to MFC?


Best regards
> Michael
> >
> > I was wondering if it could be used similarly for IPsec UDPencap but I
> think that went nowhere back then.
> >
> > =E2=80=94
> > Bjoern A. Zeeb                                  Charles Haddon Spurgeon=
:
> > "Friendship is one of the sweetest joys of life.  Many might have faile=
d
> > beneath the bitterness of their trial  had they not found a friend."
> >
> >
> >
>
>



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