From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 00:12:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B19C106566B for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 00:12:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D3178FC12 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 00:12:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nB60BjPs051955 for ; Sat, 5 Dec 2009 16:11:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 5 Dec 2009 16:12:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 16:12:25 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20091206001222.GA49434@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: is there a newer write up on BIND than '04? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 00:12:30 -0000 Anybody know if there is a new FBSD writeup on BIND than what is listed near the top in google's output? Seems like the folks at ISC changed the bind/named stuff from /etc to /var sometime after 2005. gary PS: I'll share everything I have/am still learning when my old -> new server migration is done... . -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.31a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 00:39:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 382FB106568B for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 00:39:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 744AE8FC24 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 00:39:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 24003 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2009 00:36:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.phoenix) (218.215.186.233) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 6 Dec 2009 00:36:40 -0000 Received: by smtp.phoenix (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D696D1715D; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 11:39:03 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 11:39:03 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091206003903.GA31929@ozzmosis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: tcsh backtick/quote bug on FreeBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 00:39:08 -0000 Hi, I just stumbled across a bug in the version of tcsh supplied with FreeBSD 7.2. $ uname -a FreeBSD blizzard.phoenix 7.2-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p4 #0: Fri Oct 2 12:21:39 UTC 2009 root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 $ which tcsh /bin/tcsh $ tcsh --version tcsh 6.15.00 (Astron) 2007-03-03 (i386-intel-FreeBSD) options wide,nls,dl,al,kan,sm,rh,color,filec $ tcsh -f > "`" Unmatched `. Segmentation fault (core dumped) $ Regular tcsh isn't in the ports tree, although there is a modified version called tcsh-bofh. It's apparently based on an older version of tcsh and is not vulnerable. $ /usr/local/bin/tcsh --version tcsh 6.12.00 (Astron) 2002-07-23 (i386-intel-FreeBSD) options 8b,nls,dl,al,rh,color,filec $ /usr/local/bin/tcsh -f > "`" Unmatched `. > Regards Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 02:09:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE911065670 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 02:09:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from traveling08@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmmtao106.cox.net (fed1rmmtao106.cox.net [68.230.241.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB5E8FC15 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 02:09:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fed1rmimpo01.cox.net ([70.169.32.71]) by fed1rmmtao106.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20091206020954.LXFC26719.fed1rmmtao106.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net>; Sat, 5 Dec 2009 21:09:54 -0500 Received: from asus64 ([72.220.91.251]) by fed1rmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id De9t1d0085RPd3403e9tRp; Sat, 05 Dec 2009 21:09:53 -0500 X-VR-Score: -200.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=QnsHyrXODU/M8PFHjoaSY8vWw/wnc68pWh1cXI7OZ58= c=1 sm=1 a=4ShOpzFsRpcA:10 a=aQKPT3jRvjwCBEVvbLbxkw==:17 a=zGILaCQj9k7eQyJPSwQA:9 a=iuzszwEeLVkjeQuo48IA:7 a=MEbIiz_5khh1w3NkQhtqAC7Af2EA:4 a=aQKPT3jRvjwCBEVvbLbxkw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 18:09:48 -0800 From: Robert To: Roland Smith Message-ID: <20091205180948.2ccbd584@asus64> In-Reply-To: <20091129215653.GA65322@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20091128090544.GA80636@thought.org> <20091129214307.1f536190@arcor.de> <20091129215653.GA65322@slackbox.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.3 (GTK+ 2.18.3; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gary Kline , Philipp Lengemann , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how do i automate building packages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 02:09:54 -0000 On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:56:53 +0100 Roland Smith wrote: > > Now that my desktop and laptop are both running 8.0, I build ports on > my (faster) desktop, and then rsync /usr/local to the laptop. Works > fine. Of course my laptop now has some apps on it that it doesn't > really need, but on the other hand I have been able to > remove /usr/ports, /var/db/ports and /var/db/pkg from the laptop. > This is a lot easier than creating packages and updating them on > another machine. > > Roland Hi Roland I really like this idea. I checked your website but didn't find any more detail with regards to this. Are you doing this from crontab, script or just on the command line? I personally want to thank you for all of your helpful posts. Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 04:56:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14F2106568D for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 04:56:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikes@siralan.org) Received: from arvo.suso.org (arvo.suso.org [66.244.94.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B428FC15 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 04:56:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c-69-136-3-251.hsd1.in.comcast.net (c-69-136-3-251.hsd1.in.comcast.net [69.136.3.251]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by arvo.suso.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB6F88067; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 04:56:44 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 23:56:35 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael L. Squires" X-X-Sender: mikes@familysquires.net To: George Hartzell In-Reply-To: <19226.41322.433809.431984@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: <20091205234927.U16856@familysquires.net> References: <015b01ca751e$02b58680$08209380$@rr.com> <4B197F38.4040008@gmail.com> <002701ca7537$0cb8a900$2629fb00$@rr.com> <20091204210840.W81190@familysquires.net> <6201873e0912042031r5d8290c5wc1bd903b9e0df367@mail.gmail.com> <19226.41322.433809.431984@gargle.gargle.HOWL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Adam Vande More , Free BSD Questions list , Paul Schmehl Subject: Re: Xorg - no mouse and no keyboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 04:56:46 -0000 I had similar problems with the mouse and keyboard when Xorg 7.4 first came out. I had upgraded to 7.X from 6.X by cvsup/compile/install process, and then did a portupgrade. After the portupgrade neither my Xinerama setup, the mouse, nor the keybord worked. There was an interim fix which involved turning off the new option in xorg.conf so you could revert to moused since there was a bug, as I remember, in the intial Xorg/hal/dbus ports. This was eventually solved and since then I have been using hal/dbus. A search of this mailing list and the freebsd-x11 mailing list looking for messages referring to "mouse" and "7.4" should turn up the old solution. My system uses a PS2 mouse and PS2 keyboard (actually, a real PS2 keyboard) so it may be enough different from others so that my solution isn't applicable elsewhere. Mike Squires From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 05:19:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD0C106568B for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 05:19:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from sopwith.solgatos.com (pool-98-108-131-11.ptldor.fios.verizon.net [98.108.131.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B988FC0A for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 05:19:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by sopwith.solgatos.com (Postfix, from userid 66) id B4235B64F; Sat, 5 Dec 2009 20:34:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by sopwith.solgatos.com (8.8.8/6.24) id DAA25727; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 03:24:57 GMT Message-Id: <200912060324.DAA25727@sopwith.solgatos.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:24:57 PST From: Dieter Subject: 8.0 dmesg output is mangled X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 05:19:15 -0000 Updating an amd64 box from 7.1 to 8.0. Console is RS-232. Check to see if any disk names have changed: dmesg | grep ^ad looks reasonable. added siis_load="YES" to loader.conf and rebooted dmesg | grep siis gives output that doesn't look right at all: siis0: port 0x7c00-0x7c7f mem 0xfe6ff000-0xfe6ff07f,0 xfe6f8000-0xfe6fbfff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci4 siis0: [ITHREAD] siisch0: at channel 0 on siis0 siisch0: [ITHREAD] siisch1: at channel 1 on siis0 siisch1: [ITHREAD] ad2: 305245MB at ata1-master UDMA100(aprobe0:siisch0: 0:15:0): SIGNATURE: 0000 (aprobe0:siisch0:0:0:0): SIGNATURE: 0000 ad10: 1907729MB at ata5-master SATA300(aprobe 1:siisch1:0:15:0): SIGNATURE: 0000 ad14: 953869MB at ata7-master SATA300(aprobe0:siisch1 :0:0:0): SIGNATURE: 0000 ada0 at siisch0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 ada1 at siisch1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 The Samsung disk is connected to a JMB363 controller, not the SiI 3132. The SiI 3132 has a Hitachi and a Seagate. dmesg | grep ^ada ada0 at siisch0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 ada0: ATA/ATAPI-8 SATA 2.x device ada0: 300.000MB/s transfers ada0: 953869MB (1953525168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) ada0: Native Command Queueing enabled ada1 at siisch1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 ada1: ATA/ATAPI-8 SATA 2.x device ada1: 300.000MB/s transfers ada1: 1430799MB (2930277168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) ada1: Native Command Queueing enabled This looks reasonable except for a 1 TB and a 1.5 TB drive having the same number of heads, sectors/track and cylinders. (not that those numbers are meaningful with recent disks) I'm thinking that perhaps the outputs from ata(4) and siis(4) are getting jumbled together like two processes writing to the same tty? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 06:21:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D8A106566B for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 06:21:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listreader@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from proxy1.bredband.net (proxy1.bredband.net [195.54.101.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 224678FC0C for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 06:21:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipb2.telenor.se (195.54.127.165) by proxy1.bredband.net (7.3.140.3) id 4AD3E1C0017D4813 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 07:21:07 +0100 X-SMTPAUTH-B2: X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgtEAKPbGktV44PPPGdsb2JhbACBS5dDglQBAQEBN7gwhDMEhWw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,349,1257116400"; d="scan'208";a="11948148" Received: from c-cf83e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO lazlar.kicks-ass.net) ([85.227.131.207]) by ipb2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 06 Dec 2009 07:21:06 +0100 Message-ID: <4B1B4D51.3050906@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 07:21:05 +0100 From: Rolf Nielsen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091130) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sagara Wijetunga References: <4B18CD57.5090108@tomahawk.com.sg> <20091204193219.GA84026@dan.emsphone.com> <4B19EC94.8040901@tomahawk.com.sg> <4B19FFDE.2010709@tomahawk.com.sg> <20091205072615.GI4955@comcast.net> <4B1A20E6.7070300@tomahawk.com.sg> In-Reply-To: <4B1A20E6.7070300@tomahawk.com.sg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: malformed man pages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 06:21:09 -0000 Sagara Wijetunga wrote: > Charlie Kester wrote: >> On Fri 04 Dec 2009 at 22:38:22 PST Sagara Wijetunga wrote: >>> Michael Powell wrote: >>>> Sagara Wijetunga wrote: >>>> >>>> [snip] >>>>> We use /usr/bin/less from ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/less, the >>>>> less-382.tar.gz, unpatched. >>>> >>>> Why? >>>>> Does the less need to be patched in FreeBSD? If so, is there such a >>>>> patch exist? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Uhmm, this may sound a little strange, but why not use the one >>>> included as part of the system? In other words, there was no need to >>>> 'install' less. Remove whatever you installed and use the right one. >>>> It even has a man page, e.g., man less and you will see a man page >>>> for the included one unless you've made a total mess of your man pages. >>>> >>>> I suspect there may be a possibility of bringing "Linuxisms" to your >>>> approach to FreeBSD. While there may be some amount of crossover, >>>> FreeBSD is not Linux. Learn FreeBSD as if it were new to you and >>>> leave the Linuxisms aside. >>>> >>>> -Mike >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> In Tomahawk Desktop, we try to make as much as possible all >>> components of the OS are separately installable by the user, >>> therefore, all components are separately upgradeable. We have a >>> really running well OS based on FreeBSD sources though there are some >>> hopefully minor issues to be resolved. We are about to release the OS >>> for developer preview. >> >> In other words, you're only using the kernel from FreeBSD, but replacing >> all or most of the userland stuff with your own versions? Not only the >> stuff in /usr/local/bin but also stuff in /usr/bin? >> >> As Michael said, that's a Linuxism. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Yes, mostly we use FreeBSD kernel and libs. Almost everything else is > installed separately, eg. gcc, binutils, etc. are patched and installed > under package users. We have so far installed about 550 packages, > FreeBSD is just one of them. You can list what is installed from FreeBSD > by running listpkg -s freebsd, -s is to get a sorted output. > > But we still use a smaller number of FreeBSD userland stuff for the > moment but the objective is to drop that also in our future versions and > replace them with proper packages from original projects. > > You may call it Linuxism but we have produced an user upgradeable > system, our users do not have wait till ports are ready, eg, Qt 4.6 is > not ready on FreeBSD ports tree, we are releasing Tomahawk Desktop with > Qt 4.6, OpenVG, etc. To install KDE 4.4, you just download the sources > and compile, that's all. We are not 100% ready but we are at least 99% > there. Hopefully many may appreciate our efforts. > > Regards > Sagara > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > So basically you're trying to create a GNU/FreeBSD (GNU OS with a FreeBSD kernel, analogously to GNU/Linux being GNU OS with a Linux kernel)? Why not just stick with Linux? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 06:35:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0519106566C for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 06:35:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from CPSMTPM-EML106.kpnxchange.com (Cpsmtpm-eml106.kpnxchange.com [195.121.3.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4116E8FC14 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 06:35:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl ([81.204.132.35]) by CPSMTPM-EML106.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6001.18000); Sun, 6 Dec 2009 07:35:40 +0100 Received: from Alex1.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nB66ZeOw007080 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 07:35:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex1.lan (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id nB66Zelx007079 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 07:35:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) X-Authentication-Warning: Alex1.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 07:35:40 +0100 From: Alex de Kruijff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091206063540.GA1562@Alex1.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Dec 2009 06:35:40.0871 (UTC) FILETIME=[5459ED70:01CA763E] Subject: [8.0] GEOM: ad0: geometry does not match label (225h, 63s != 16h63s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 06:35:43 -0000 Hi, Way back it was very hard to install FreeBSD on this computer, do to sysinstall tendency to keep changing the hard disk settings. Since then I've bin very reluctant to reinstall FreeBSD. Upgrading FreeBSD was easy, until now. The FreeBSD 8.0 kernel says and refuces to boot. GEOM: ad0: geometry does not match label (225h,63s != 16h63s) Sysinstall (with 7.2) says: A geometry of 484521/16/63 for ad0 is incorrect. Using a more likely geometry. The next screen says: DISK Geometry: 30401 cyls/255 heads/63 sectors = 488392065 sectors (238472MB) > fdisk ******* Working on device /dev/ad0 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=484521 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=484521 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) -- Alex Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 09:02:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F2F5106568B for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 09:02:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alvin@blueberrytelecom.com) Received: from xsmtp04.mail2web.com (xsmtp04.mail2web.com [168.144.250.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E878FC08 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 09:02:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.5.2.17] (helo=xmail07.myhosting.com) by xsmtp04.mail2web.com with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NHCTx-0003fu-Kn for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 03:28:48 -0500 Received: (qmail 616 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2009 08:28:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Alvin-PC.blueberrytelecom.com) (Authenticated-user:_alvin@blueberrytelecom.com@[116.87.149.28]) (envelope-sender ) by xmail07.myhosting.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with ESMTPA for ; 6 Dec 2009 08:28:38 -0000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 16:28:32 +0800 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Alvin Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091206090228.8F2F5106568B@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: hptrr: no controller detected X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 09:02:28 -0000 Dear FreeBSD.org, I'm Alvin from Blueberry Telecom. If you don't mind can i ask some question to you. FreeBSD is first time for me. Now I have to upgrade urgently. Now we are running FreeBSD 6.0 on Compaq DL 380 and Our Portaone Billing 100 application running on these servers. Now we have to upgrade FreeBSD 6.4 and we also need to upgrade our Our Portaone Billing 100 application. So we try to buy Sun X4170 and X2270. When I test to run FreeBSD 6.4 on that 2 servers after installation i got this error. hptrr: no controller detected Pls kindly let me know how to solve this issue. Thanks & Regards Alvin Network Engineer Co.Regn no: 200815528M No.1 Claymore Dr. #25-02 Orchard Towers (Rear Blk) Singapore 229594 Mobile: + 65 90687072 MSN: alvin@blueberrytelecom.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 09:23:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BD1106566B for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 09:23:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E07E8FC17 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 09:23:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nB69N3tK004241; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 10:23:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2EF9BB850; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 10:23:03 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 10:23:03 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Robert Message-ID: <20091206092303.GA78936@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20091128090544.GA80636@thought.org> <20091129214307.1f536190@arcor.de> <20091129215653.GA65322@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20091205180948.2ccbd584@asus64> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091205180948.2ccbd584@asus64> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Gary Kline , Philipp Lengemann , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how do i automate building packages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 09:23:08 -0000 --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 06:09:48PM -0800, Robert wrote: > On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:56:53 +0100 > Roland Smith wrote: > > > Now that my desktop and laptop are both running 8.0, I build ports on > > my (faster) desktop, and then rsync /usr/local to the laptop. Works > > fine. Of course my laptop now has some apps on it that it doesn't > > really need, but on the other hand I have been able to > > remove /usr/ports, /var/db/ports and /var/db/pkg from the laptop. > > This is a lot easier than creating packages and updating them on > > another machine. > > I really like this idea. I checked your website but didn't find any > more detail with regards to this. Oops. Fixed that. =20 > Are you doing this from crontab, script or just on the command line? Since my laptop isn't hooked up to my network permanently, I just do the update from the command line. Here is what I do; * On the desktop, I make sure that all ports are up to date; - 'portsnap fetch update' - 'portmaster -a -B -d' * hook up the laptop to the wired network, with the hostname 'laptop' (names and IPs hardwired in /etc/hosts on both machines to keep things si= mple). * start 'rsync --daemon' on the laptop. The laptop has the following in rsyncd.conf:=20 [local] path =3D /usr/local comment =3D usr/local directory tree uid =3D root gid =3D wheel read only =3D false * synchronize all ports to the laptop with the following command on the bui= ld machine; 'rsync -av --delete /usr/local/ laptop::local' > I personally want to thank you for all of your helpful posts.=20 You're welcome. It's nice to be appreciated. :-) Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAksbd/cACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWLQgCePK3p+1SOYlhkBZwvA3/NSJAB nHAAn0byWBbfYBI4cS3m0t5YMoVxmSc+ =7HF9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 10:22:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9435F106566B for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 10:22:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from ostracod.unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D8B8FC21 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 10:22:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vhoffman-macbook.local ([10.0.0.173]) (authenticated bits=0) by ostracod.unsane.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB6AMqXN050468 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 6 Dec 2009 10:22:53 GMT (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B1B85D6.9080107@unsane.co.uk> Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 10:22:15 +0000 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20091206001222.GA49434@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20091206001222.GA49434@thought.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: is there a newer write up on BIND than '04? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 10:22:16 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > Anybody know if there is a new FBSD writeup on BIND than what > is listed near the top in google's output? Seems like the > folks at ISC changed the bind/named stuff from /etc to /var > sometime after 2005. > > gary > > PS: I'll share everything I have/am still learning when my > old -> new server migration is done... . > > for me at least /etc/namedb is a symlink (10:14:00 ) 0 $ ls -la /etc/namedb lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 21 Dec 3 21:00 /etc/namedb@ -> /var/named/etc/namedb I tend to access it via /etc though habit. (been using pretty much the same config since 5.x with some minor changes that i cant remember off hand.) Vince From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 16:07:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83DBE1065679 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 16:07:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reinhard.haller@interactive-net.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128218FC0C for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 16:07:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from interactive.dnsalias.net (ppp-88-217-30-2.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.30.2]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MJmaK-1NIPZL3nQC-001k9I; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:07:20 +0100 Received: from scalix.interactive.de ([fd08:e8a3:4825:0:20c:29ff:feaa:3622]) by interactive.dnsalias.net with esmtp (Exim 4.70 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NHJdn-000BpR-6M for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:07:19 +0100 Received: from scalix.interactive.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by scalix.interactive.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nB6G7Iql016090 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:07:18 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (Core2Duo.interactive.de [192.168.0.196]) by scalix.interactive.de (Scalix SMTP Relay 11.4.5.13150) via ESMTP; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:07:18 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:07:17 +0100 From: Reinhard Haller To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4B1BD6B5.8040405@interactive-net.de> x-scalix-Hops: 1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Disposition: inline X-ACL-rcpt: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-ACL-Send: reinhard.haller@interactive-net.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/f8psqL2jV0jy0UOtI0ca0tJ8uyRKG5ubh713 noQh9s2vaeC13lQXHV7kKfPx9EqGb73rz2+BL/Hw8EPHKcajC9 DzieR7TeE0UOsCZCzNom8a1o9anEvCO9zAJfnctxDOVieqHRZt A+Q== Subject: [8.0R] vimage + virtual lan X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 16:07:21 -0000 Hi, I'm testing the virtual network stack in 8.0. I configured 2 jails in a virtual lan. The documentation regarding vimage is not very detailed. I started with the following configuration: /etc/rc.d/route6d start setenv D1 /jails/dns1 mkdir -p $D1 setenv D2 /jails/dns2 mkdir -p $D2 cd /usr/src make buildworld make installworld DESTDIR=$D1 make distribution DESTDIR=$D1 cd $D1 find . | cpio -pmud $D2 mount -t devfs devfs $D1/dev mount -t devfs devfs $D2/dev jail -c vnet name=d1 host.hostname=dns1.intern.de path=/jails/dns1 persist jail -c vnet name=d2 host.hostname=dns2.intern.de path=/jails/dns2 persist ifconfig bridge0 create ifconfig epair create ifconfig epair create ifconfig bridge0 inet6 fd08:e8a3:4825:10::1 addm epair0a addm epair1a up ifconfig epair0b vnet 1 ifconfig epair1b vnet 2 jexec 1 csh ifconfig epair0b inet6 fd08:e8a3:4825:10::11 route -n add -inet6 default fd08:e8a3:4825:10::1 exit jexec 2 csh ifconfig epair1b inet6 fd08:e8a3:4825:10::12 route -n add -inet6 default fd08:e8a3:4825:10::1 exit Is this the suggested way to set up jails with vnet network stacks in a virtual lan? Thanks Reinhard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 16:25:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EBCC1065693 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 16:25:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41FCF8FC12 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 16:25:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB6GPOTS031585; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 16:25:25 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk nB6GPOTS031585 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1260116725; bh=fe+R7GJnvQvXdVq9SL/+AMoWQjOD6cPnMk2klQqF4GI=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B1BDAEE.1090302@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2006=20Dec=202009=2016:25:18=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20091129)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Alvin=20|CC:=20freebs d-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20hptrr:=20no=20controller= 20detected|References:=20<20091206090228.8F2F5106568B@hub.freebsd. org>|In-Reply-To:=20<20091206090228.8F2F5106568B@hub.freebsd.org>| X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=2 0micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signat ure"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigF386B598B75548824B0C3B 59"; b=iw7FjKNycK00t0Gw3R1eiMAdXqcKGErDAZH21efJS4dyWV9qr418fRB0++D1z7uKO OGLAmSy9JtWL1/XGr598hf0mvHIeJ6D4h6gvuNeNoZbbfG9zBSyEfVT6yr4jL0TCj6 MnLCY2HZLDOvzYW9ZwDfrI8ouaQwlhms+OvWEYOk= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4B1BDAEE.1090302@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 16:25:18 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alvin References: <20091206090228.8F2F5106568B@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20091206090228.8F2F5106568B@hub.freebsd.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF386B598B75548824B0C3B59" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hptrr: no controller detected X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 16:25:59 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF386B598B75548824B0C3B59 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alvin wrote: > When I test to run FreeBSD 6.4 on that 2 servers after installation i=20 > got this error. >=20 > hptrr: no controller detected >=20 > Pls kindly let me know how to solve this issue. It's not actually an error. It's just the hptrr driver being overly verbose and telling you what you no doubt already know: that you have=20 no High Point Rocket Raid cards installed. Harmless, and should just be ignored. The spurious verbiage has been fixed in later versions of the OS. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigF386B598B75548824B0C3B59 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAksb2vQACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwmNgCgiaZK1ikUi6aVogKjyZPc28Fv Ex8An24Xa1jZ81Rj4sZaZdWoCO83iuz5 =1Zfe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF386B598B75548824B0C3B59-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 16:33:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB77106568B for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 16:33:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alvin@blueberrytelecom.com) Received: from xsmtp14.mail2web.com (xsmtp14.mail2web.com [168.144.250.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9330C8FC1B for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 16:33:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.5.2.52] (helo=xmail12.myhosting.com) by xsmtp14.mail2web.com with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NHK2q-0004R0-Kn for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 11:33:22 -0500 Received: (qmail 12190 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2009 16:33:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Alvin-PC.blueberrytelecom.com) (Authenticated-user:_alvin@blueberrytelecom.com@[116.87.149.28]) (envelope-sender ) by xmail12.myhosting.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with ESMTPA for ; 6 Dec 2009 16:33:09 -0000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 00:33:03 +0800 To: Matthew Seaman From: Alvin In-Reply-To: <4B1BDAEE.1090302@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <20091206090228.8F2F5106568B@hub.freebsd.org> <4B1BDAEE.1090302@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091206163322.BDB77106568B@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hptrr: no controller detected X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 16:33:22 -0000 Hi Matthew, Thanks you indeed for sharing this information to me. This is very useful for me. Thanks Again. At 12:25 AM 12/7/2009, Matthew Seaman wrote: >Alvin wrote: > >>When I test to run FreeBSD 6.4 on that 2 servers after installation >>i got this error. >>hptrr: no controller detected >>Pls kindly let me know how to solve this issue. > >It's not actually an error. It's just the hptrr driver being overly >verbose and telling you what you no doubt already know: that you >have no High Point Rocket Raid cards installed. Harmless, and should just >be ignored. The spurious verbiage has been fixed in later versions of >the OS. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > >-- >Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 >PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > Kent, CT11 9PW > > > Thanks & Regards Alvin Network Engineer Co.Regn no: 200815528M No.1 Claymore Dr. #25-02 Orchard Towers (Rear Blk) Singapore 229594 Mobile: + 65 90687072 MSN: alvin@blueberrytelecom.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 17:34:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D16951065692 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:34:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90BE58FC0A for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:34:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NHL0C-0001YK-F6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:34:34 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NHL0B-0004Lz-Ni for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:34:32 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB6HYV5u070413 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:34:31 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nB6HYV64070412 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:34:31 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:34:31 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091206173431.GA70391@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -4.4 X-Spam-Level: ---- Subject: dd (to erase disk) from emergency holographic shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:34:35 -0000 I need to erase all of my fbsd disk. I booted the installation cd, launched Emergency Holographic Shell, but cannot find any command, except rm and pwd. I'd like to erase my disk with dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/ad0 Please advise many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 17:42:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA16B106566B for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:42:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B16A8FC18 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:42:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nB6HdKnb076725; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 12:39:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nB6HdKi6076724; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 12:39:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 12:39:20 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-ID: <20091206173920.GA76707@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20091206173431.GA70391@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091206173431.GA70391@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dd (to erase disk) from emergency holographic shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:42:55 -0000 On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 05:34:31PM +0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I need to erase all of my fbsd disk. > I booted the installation cd, launched > Emergency Holographic Shell, but > cannot find any command, except rm and pwd. The holograqphic shell is not the one you want. You want the Fixit. ////jerry > > I'd like to erase my disk with dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/ad0 > > Please advise > > many thanks > anton > > -- > Anton Shterenlikht > Room 2.6, Queen's Building > Mech Eng Dept > Bristol University > University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK > Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 > Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 17:54:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A158E106566C for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:54:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EA518FC08 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:54:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NHLJt-0001qj-EH; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:54:55 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NHLJs-0004ni-FG; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:54:53 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB6Hsqgv070495; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:54:52 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nB6HsqL3070494; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:54:52 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:54:52 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Jerry McAllister Message-ID: <20091206175452.GA70483@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091206173431.GA70391@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091206173920.GA76707@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091206173920.GA76707@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -4.4 X-Spam-Level: ---- Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dd (to erase disk) from emergency holographic shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:54:56 -0000 On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 12:39:20PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 05:34:31PM +0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > I need to erase all of my fbsd disk. > > I booted the installation cd, launched > > Emergency Holographic Shell, but > > cannot find any command, except rm and pwd. > > The holograqphic shell is not the one you want. > You want the Fixit. I thought these are identical things. In the sysinstall menu I chose "Fixit", and in the following menu I chose "Start an Emergency Holographic Shell". Is this not it? Or do I need to prepare a separate Fixit CD or floppy? I was under the impression I've used this holo shell before, but can't remember how now. many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 18:06:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A245106566B for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 18:06:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41B58FC08 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 18:06:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NHLUj-0003Aq-55 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 10:06:05 -0800 Message-ID: <26667339.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 10:06:05 -0800 (PST) From: Ivo Karabojkov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Nabble-From: ivo@kit-bg.com References: Subject: Re: won't boot after 8.0-RELEASE upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:06:06 -0000 I don't think it's FreeBSD update. I always use CVSup and build world. So I fall into the same hole with no way up. I use gmirror, my device names are full including slice (e.g. /dev/mirror/gm0s1a and it was produced from /dev/ad4s1a some years ago), so I think I'm not using =E2=80=9Cdangerously dedicated=E2=80=9D mode... After the update I'm unable to mount root. Thanks God I have my old (7.2 release) kernel... Since I have some servers to manage I am very interested how should I upgrade to 8.0 Rel? Thanks in advance for all your advices! Regards, Ivo Tom Worster wrote: >=20 > after running freebsd-update -r 8.0-RELEASE upgrade my system won't boot. > it > gets stuck on mountroot and i can't find the magic word it wants. >=20 > the system used to have two sata drives /dev/ad4 and ad6. they were > partitioned and sliced using the deafaults that sysinstall suggested. >=20 > at the boot prompt, lsdev says: >=20 > disk devices > disk0: BIOS drive C: > disk0s1a: FFS > disk0s1b: swap > disk0s1d: FFS > disk0s1e: FFS > disk0s1f: FFS > disk1: BIOS drive D: > disk1s1a: FFS > disk1s1b: swap > disk1s1d: FFS > disk1s1e: FFS > disk1s1f: FFS >=20 > which looks right, although i'm not familiar with the "disk" nomenclature= . >=20 > entering ? at mountroot mentions ad4 and ad6. >=20 > geom_mirror was being used. >=20 > i've tried saying "load geom_mirror" and/or "enable-module geom_mirror" a= t > the boot prompt. neither made any difference. >=20 > nothing i've said to mountroot works: >=20 > ufs:/dev/ad4s1a > ufs:/dev/ad6s1a > ufs:/dev/mirror/gm0s1a > ufs:/dev/disk0s1a > ufs:/dev/disk1s1a >=20 > does anyone know the magic word? i'd be very grateful. >=20 > tom >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 >=20 --=20 View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/won%27t-boot-after-8.0-= RELEASE-upgrade-tp26628661p26667339.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 18:49:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB409106566C for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 18:49:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A368FC17 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 18:49:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NHMAR-0004Hm-JM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:49:13 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NHMAQ-0006p6-Hh for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:49:11 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB6InA3O070778 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 18:49:10 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nB6InABu070777 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 18:49:10 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 18:49:10 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091206184910.GA70763@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091206173431.GA70391@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091206173920.GA76707@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20091206175452.GA70483@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091206175452.GA70483@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -5.0 X-Spam-Level: ----- Subject: Solved: Re: dd (to erase disk) from emergency holographic shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:49:14 -0000 On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 05:54:52PM +0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 12:39:20PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 05:34:31PM +0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > > > I need to erase all of my fbsd disk. > > > I booted the installation cd, launched > > > Emergency Holographic Shell, but > > > cannot find any command, except rm and pwd. > > > > The holograqphic shell is not the one you want. > > You want the Fixit. > > I thought these are identical things. > In the sysinstall menu I chose "Fixit", > and in the following menu I chose "Start an > Emergency Holographic Shell". Is this not it? > > Or do I need to prepare a separate Fixit CD or > floppy? > > I was under the impression I've used this > holo shell before, but can't remember how now. I burned a separate livefs CD, launched Fixit from there. sorry for the bother -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 18:52:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58103106568D for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 18:52:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from s4mmael@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D548FC1F for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 18:52:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so1437435fxm.13 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 10:52:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qUD8LSJBNCv21bwMjuASFXx+a9Dbu6PuCpJ1/aARaPM=; b=i3hu+4exI3PzrNVPIbMXuPFTrc2nOvclrKxmHms9tPc5AOFxLi46E66J9Pe36yYlBu OM0fw6VIUht7Yyo3ot0+795GOBlw3RyDMNTytZxc5NzAWK8ZSW79nw60l7aPlNSGXPBY IbRku3QgUTLQVBVpK9nGmYJTnqFM9IIRP57M4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cART6YhW2t97fUhWWAQAFpPDITJSvaHSNWTdom1TlVcYfehsvEy2YO1vyqBVXRxncW OWNmVSOKvn30Snon7+s61Mw4SSVCy2OuhP1JpswRyRPv8CB735nxmD8qZ8ealAaU2U3E tlTEZa9OAu9EbnduUY24bp96EMlflUYmeMNc8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.54.23 with SMTP id o23mr900079fag.72.1260125534413; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 10:52:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <6e38aed80912061051n752b5631jc78562bcc650e1f8@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e38aed80911260532y732a43d4i9386bb09eee5fa8@mail.gmail.com> <592586.49174.qm@web24809.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <6e38aed80911270101q187e9190ycde0529b8235b124@mail.gmail.com> <6e38aed80912061051n752b5631jc78562bcc650e1f8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 18:52:14 +0000 Message-ID: <6e38aed80912061052w32b0f251ue48c16569dc12e32@mail.gmail.com> From: S4mmael To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re : freebsd-update with MYKERNEL kernel configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:52:16 -0000 Hi again! During FreeBSD 7.1 installation, I made some changes to my BSD partitions. I didn't touch ad0s1h (/home), so there is still my data. Installation went good, but I see "disk boot failure..." error message when trying to boot OS. Using Fixit liveCD I see: #fdisk /dev/ad0 ******* Working on device /dev/ad0 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=3D119705 heads=3D16 sectors/track=3D255 (4080 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=3D119705 heads=3D16 sectors/track=3D255 (4080 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) =A0 =A0start 63, size 209729457 (102406 Meg), flag 80 (active) =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0end: cyl 1023/ head 15/ sector 63 The data for partition 2 is: sysid 7 (0x07),(OS/2 HPFS, NTFS, QNX-2 (16 bit) or Advanced UNIX) =A0 =A0start 209729520, size 10508400 (5131 Meg), flag 0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0beg: cyl 1023/ head 255/ sector 63; =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0end: cyl 1023/ head 15/ sector 63 The data for partition 3 is: sysid 15 (0x0f),(Extended DOS (LBA)) =A0 =A0start 220237920, size 268153200 (130934 Meg), flag 0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0beg: cyl 1023/ head 255/ sector 63; =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0end: cyl 1023/ head 15/ sector 63 The data for partition 4 is: #bsdlabel /dev/ad0s1 # /dev/ad0s1: 8 partitions: # =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0size =A0 offset =A0 =A0fstype =A0 [fsize bsize bps/cpg] =A0a: =A01048576 =A0 =A0 =A0 63 =A0 =A04.2BSD =A0 =A0 1024 =A08192 46248 =A0b: =A02097152 =A01048639 =A0 =A0 =A0swap =A0c: 209729457 =A0 =A0 =A0 63 =A0 =A0unused =A0 =A0 =A0 =A00 =A0 =A0 0 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 # "raw" part, don't edit =A0d: =A01048576 =A03145791 =A0 =A04.2BSD =A0 =A0 1024 =A08192 46248 =A0e: 20230144 =A04194367 =A0 =A04.2BSD =A0 =A0 1024 =A08192 46248 =A0f: =A02097152 24424511 =A0 =A04.2BSD =A0 =A0 =A0512 =A04096 22424 =A0g: =A04194304 26521663 =A0 =A04.2BSD =A0 =A0 8192 65536 =A0 =A0 8 =A0h: 179013553 30715967 =A0 =A04.2BSD =A0 =A0 =A0 =A00 =A0 =A0 0 =A0 =A0 0 partition c: partition extends past end of unit bsdlabel: partition c doesn't start at 0! bsdlabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard system utilities partition h: partition extends past end of unit So, slice ad0s1 is active, partitions can be mounted and viewed, all seems = OK. boot0cfg -B /dev/ad0 and fdisk -B /dev/ad0 doesn't solve the problem. What did I mess? What does the last strings of bsdlabel output mean? How do I manage this? Thank's in advance for any advice. 2009/11/27 S4mmael : > Thank you. > > 2009/11/26 Alexandre L. : >> Hi, >> >> I paste this link where Colin Percival explain who to use the tool freeb= sd-update with custom kernel. But I think that same thing as been written i= n the handbook. >> http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=3D30920&postcount=3D9 >> >> --- En date de=A0: Jeu 26.11.09, S4mmael a =E9crit= =A0: >> >>> De: S4mmael >>> Objet: freebsd-update with MYKERNEL kernel configuration >>> =C0: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> Date: Jeudi 26 Novembre 2009, 13h32 >>> Hi all! >>> >>> I've got a problem while upgrading FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p3 >>> -> FreeBSD >>> 8.0-RELESE with freebsd-update(8). >>> >>> First of all I made a copy of the most configuration files. >>> Then I made: >>> # freebsd-update -r 8.0-RELEASE upgrade >>> All went good, except the message, that because of MYKERNEL >>> kernel >>> configuration I should upgrade my kernel before >>> "freebsd-upgrade >>> install". Then I was looking for the way of kernel upgrade, >>> but found >>> nothing. How could I build 8.0 kernel in FreeBSD 7.2? Of >>> course, there >>> were 7.2 sources in /usr/src and I didn't find any sources >>> in >>> /var/db/freebsd-update/. It's the first my question. >>> >>> Thus I decided to upgrade all except the kernel and then >>> rebuild the >>> kernel (that worked good while upgrading 7.1 -> 7.2). I >>> made as >>> mentioned in hanbook: >>> # freebsd-upgrade install >>> # shutdown -r now >>> # freebsd-upgrade install >>> There were many errors "bad sistem call" on th last >>> command. After all >>> I discovered that much files from / were lost (I didn't >>> find any grep, >>> bzcat and so on). On boot kernel can't find fsck_ufs, so >>> automatic >>> mounting fails. If mounted by hand, there is no way to >>> login because >>> of some init error. Single user mode works. "freebsd-update >>> roolback" >>> can't find any backup. Shell scripts can't find "test" (it >>> really >>> doesn't exists in /bin/[ ) and fails. >>> >>> How can I restore the system? I've FreeBSD 7.1 CD. >>> >>> Thank's in advance for your help. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org" >>> >> >> >> >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 19:13:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3CB1065672 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 19:13:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from materribile@yahoo.com) Received: from web110310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (web110310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.8.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B86078FC16 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 19:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 98134 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Dec 2009 19:13:21 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1260126801; bh=EQmd/dV6gTyLAYc6CqYseOLPZfMGbDIz1yln92IT9Dk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5uobaEwtiCQZPdYwuKmPtIBKXSg0c9fAVxm3XZ7ZDWS9stpqQtC7gSwIkOJPPMhvLe+LBoVODrKtsZ39Kpn5XMsxXF1qHzNR2QfmP5JH/5bR7Fx+SFvxAr7ii9+QaMUeK+h+/psQzX28/b2Ud3iqjpcoSrsmLRQTi+gjY1DrkbQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hCpeX57jnE9iknVxsW9a2aULQ2AMjc/pPaZLPFE4f9+gp1JAPcDyN8nYNvC99l02F3qLrqhml2nFEQPfQd/Yan/ZDT1ORptbzapxTB5uNCzgCf9Cjuqla52b+dueH6eIWqFldjAYqlaZRhNaLMP8fyfyB40VafS9VqIyAT7mOt0=; Message-ID: <241496.97555.qm@web110310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: gUvVRTAVM1kA5U66MJTHfkAHgCux61LzYBHVPHfsRFNaLNSf1ZYIiNIu21D13IeklYWuJND1PyOeV80czMsmrud8EQfAr_qEuRAnoDR7SO1iq2cSApX2O.SbU5Ib8TpwEY_Q.PfGQftdxFV5xniw8XzlRiU75GkLdAhc1uHxgKG.y8k6aRIf1sUTd6Yit3x.44tN1jAPX9GgJybqBu2KaTKgJAh6fMLvxCSUDYg6A8aozVgPABI4XYHJnarJMVC1nbmidpJ2OlQzO2HgZ0NmxiXAdDqmQPILdZoXET7MdWqz90QxJrQogYVpsUDDoLjq_nv.t71AR1fjFu4UKNWFNP6iXLwv3zW0Klt1gl6coIII1.9fXS3wwWA- Received: from [24.228.57.153] by web110310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 11:13:21 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.0.19 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 11:13:21 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Terribile To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: ad4 and ad4c ? What is ad4c? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 19:13:22 -0000 Hi, I've just put a FreeBSD 7.2 up on another system, which I am converting from 5.4. In the process, I put in two new SATA disks, which received the installation; the existing PATA disk I kept so that I could retrieve data from it. Now I see the expected ad0 and ad2 disks, with the expected ad0s1a and so forth. But for the PATA drive I have both ad4 and ad4c, ad4s1 and ad4cs1, ad4s1a and ad4cs1a, and so on. What are the do the ad4c* entries represent? How do they differ from the ad4 entries? Where do I find this in the manual? Mark Terribile materribile@yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 21:50:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE283106566C for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 21:50:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD358FC1F for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 21:50:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-228-22.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.228.22]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A591E194; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 22:50:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nB6Logj7002514; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 22:50:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 22:50:42 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <20091206225042.39beb31e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20091206184910.GA70763@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091206173431.GA70391@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091206173920.GA76707@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20091206175452.GA70483@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20091206184910.GA70763@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Solved: Re: dd (to erase disk) from emergency holographic shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 21:50:46 -0000 On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 18:49:10 +0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I burned a separate livefs CD, launched Fixit from there. > > sorry for the bother Don't mind. If you want a more "comfortable" live fs environment for Fixit (and other operations, such as diagnostics or recovery preparations), you could use FreeSBIE. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 22:08:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01800106566C for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 22:08:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from materribile@yahoo.com) Received: from web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.8.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D07EF8FC08 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 22:08:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 86724 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Dec 2009 22:08:47 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1260137327; bh=x1VRhEt6bgc6B56tElgMuWUkcKUBDDVddd4SFjTAm3Q=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=H48oqAxW5VimOWV8sHmmgBPBrUkX2IxY7QlBmuzzmT0HTlq5MoX2sQixnfWvvRhUM0CaMtWWYTKGfl5csO+M62/ttv9TpQBCqoq9HnlPj5vjNjHR16XAYiE7HrQSlB7idTjnPz6gdJHQ368zyw/uWeXgY3fpU2zqCGVcyWdzqG4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uu1Ox26Phc/UhnVLlH2PvT1Rhm1yDd/RKP+jL/K78YX4hvRxlBQJoF8F25AZYjlYC+3RPwBdQOPsTS6dGLJtBT6+yaryjq9u1f/Z1sd4ipAU6f0o3ta12+fJ1a2YH9NJLHkFfhysAjcnHhsuuv/ICIdlpy3FrPebzkz2stsYrjA=; Message-ID: <338957.86715.qm@web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: PQrHPZAVM1nDZzPzNUv14bclIXlLULG1yoOJ5asKC9OhN.iL0kTMKb3l Received: from [24.228.57.153] by web110306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 14:08:46 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.0.19 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 14:08:46 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Terribile To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Ports: evolution-exchange, libkrb5.so.9 and libkrb5.so.23 (the latter from heimdal) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:08:48 -0000 Hi, I'm continuing to get 7.2 running and configured for my use. Now I have a conflict in ports. Making gnome2 triggers a make of evolution-exchange, which in turn gives me: /usr/bin/ld: warning: libkrb5.so.9, needed by /usr/local/lib/libexchange-storage-1.2.so, may conflict with libkrb5.so.23 /usr/lib/libkrb5.so.9: undefined reference to `copy_octet_string' I've run pkgdb -F and portupgrade (on gnome2, on evolution-exchange, and -a). libkrb5.so.23 appears to belong to heimdal (which I have pkg_delete'd and rebuilt from ports after a portupgrade) but I don't know where libkrb5.so.9 comes from, nor why evolution-exchange wants the lower-numbered one. Any suggestions? The full output of the last make run is below. If you want the long one, from scratch, I can provide that too. Mark Terribile materribile@yahoo.com ===> Building for evolution-exchange-2.26.3_1 gmake all-recursive gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/realports/mail/evolution-exchange/work/evolution-exchange-2.26.3' Making all in camel gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/realports/mail/evolution-exchange/work/evolution-exchange-2.26.3/camel' gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/realports/mail/evolution-exchange/work/evolution-exchange-2.26.3/camel' Making all in mail gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/realports/mail/evolution-exchange/work/evolution-exchange-2.26.3/mail' gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/realports/mail/evolution-exchange/work/evolution-exchange-2.26.3/mail' Making all in addressbook gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/realports/mail/evolution-exchange/work/evolution-exchange-2.26.3/addressbook' gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/realports/mail/evolution-exchange/work/evolution-exchange-2.26.3/addressbook' Making all in calendar gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/realports/mail/evolution-exchange/work/evolution-exchange-2.26.3/calendar' gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/realports/mail/evolution-exchange/work/evolution-exchange-2.26.3/calendar' Making all in storage gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/realports/mail/evolution-exchange/work/evolution-exchange-2.26.3/storage' /bin/sh /usr/realports/mail/evolution-exchange/work/gnome-libtool --tag=CC --mode=link cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -DLDAP_DEPRECATED -L/usr/local/lib -o evolution-exchange-storage exchange-autoconfig-wizard.o exchange-component.o exchange-config-listener.o exchange-change-password.o exchange-migrate.o exchange-storage.o main.o ../mail/libexchangemail.la ../addressbook/libexchangeaddressbook.la ../calendar/libexchangecalendar.la ../camel/camel-stub-marshal.lo -L/usr/local/lib -lldap -llber -Wl,-R/usr/local/lib/evolution/2.26 -pthread -L/usr/local/lib/evolution/2.26 -L/usr/local/lib -leshell -leutil -lgnomeui-2 -lSM -lICE -lbonoboui-2 -lgnomevfs-2 -lgnomecanvas-2 -lgnome-2 -lpopt -lart_lgpl_2 -ledataserverui-1.2 -ledata-book-1.2 -lebook-1.2 -ledata-cal-1.2 -lebackend-1.2 -lecal-1.2 -lical -licalss -licalvcal -lglade-2.0 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lXext -lXrender -lXinerama -lXi -lXrandr -lXcursor -lXcomposite -lXdamage -lpangoft2-1.0 -lXfixes -lcairo -lX11 -lpango-1.0 -lm -lfreetype -lfontconfig -lcamel-provider-1.2 -lcamel-1.2 -ledataserver-1.2 -lsqlite3 -lxml2 -lgconf-2 -lsoup-2.4 -lbonobo-2 -lgio-2.0 -lbonobo-activation -lgmodule-2.0 -lORBit-2 -lgthread-2.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -Wl,-R/usr/local/lib/evolution/2.26 -pthread -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib/evolution/2.26 -leshell -lgnomeui-2 -lSM -lICE -lbonoboui-2 -lgnomevfs-2 -lgnomecanvas-2 -lgnome-2 -lpopt -lart_lgpl_2 -ledataserverui-1.2 -lglade-2.0 -lebook-1.2 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lXext -lXrender -lXinerama -lXi -lXrandr -lXcursor -lXcomposite -lXdamage -lpangoft2-1.0 -lXfixes -lcairo -lX11 -lpango-1.0 -lm -lfreetype -lfontconfig -ledataserver-1.2 -lxml2 -lgconf-2 -lbonobo-2 -lbonobo-activation -lORBit-2 -lgthread-2.0 -lebackend-1.2 -lexchange-storage-1.2 -lsoup-2.4 -lgio-2.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -lglib-2.0 gnome-libtool: link: cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -DLDAP_DEPRECATED -o evolution-exchange-storage exchange-autoconfig-wizard.o exchange-component.o exchange-config-listener.o exchange-change-password.o exchange-migrate.o exchange-storage.o main.o ../camel/.libs/camel-stub-marshal.o -Wl,-R/usr/local/lib/evolution/2.26 -pthread -Wl,-R/usr/local/lib/evolution/2.26 -pthread -L/usr/local/lib ../mail/.libs/libexchangemail.a ../addressbook/.libs/libexchangeaddressbook.a ../calendar/.libs/libexchangecalendar.a -L/usr/local/lib/evolution/2.26 -L/lib -L/usr/local/lib/nss -L/usr/lib 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Leaving directory `/usr/realports/mail/evolution-exchange/work/evolution-exchange-2.26.3' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/realports/mail/evolution-exchange. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 01:26:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1A1106566B for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 01:26:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trix@basement.net) Received: from fran.basement.net (fran.basement.net [76.74.249.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1329D8FC12 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 01:26:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from willow.basement.net (nat.home.basement.net [173.162.16.100]) by fran.basement.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id nB713x34009108 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 19:04:00 -0600 Received: from willow.basement.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by willow.basement.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB713wtr010376 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 19:03:59 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from trix@willow.basement.net) Received: (from trix@localhost) by willow.basement.net (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) id nB713wRS010375 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 19:03:58 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from trix) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 19:03:58 -0600 From: Trix Farrar To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20091207010358.GG70263@basement.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="JSkcQAAxhB1h8DcT" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=failed version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on fran.basement.net Subject: Net-SNMP and ProPolice under 8.0-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 01:26:21 -0000 --JSkcQAAxhB1h8DcT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Net-SNMP port (net-mgmt/net-snmp) builds and appears to work just fine, but I cannot build the SNMP module for PHP (net-mgmt/php5-snmp). Attempting to build php5-snmp fails during the configure stage. The error message says to check the config.log. In the /usr/ports/net-mgmt/php5-snmp/work/php-5.2.11/ext/snmp/config.log file I found: configure:5967: checking for snmp_parse_oid in -lnetsnmp configure:6002: cc -o conftest -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -R/usr/local= /lib -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -lcrypto -lssl -rpath=3D/usr/local/= lib -lnetsnmp -lelf -lm -lkvm -ldevstat conftest.c -lnetsnmp >&5 /usr/local/lib/libnetsnmp.so: undefined reference to `__stack_chk_fail_loca= l' Google-ing around, I have found that the __stack_chk_fail_local symbol is a side effect of compiling with the '-fstack-protector' option for gcc -- which, I believe, is the default for 8.0-RELEASE. Searching /usr/src, I found that this function is referenced in /usr/src/lib/libc/sys/stack_protector.c, but appears to be defined in /usr/src/contrib/gcclibs/libssp/ssp.c, which is part of GCC. I believe that this winds up in /lib/libssp.so.0 -- which also exists under 7.2-RELEASE. The copy of net-mgmt/net-snmp that I compiled under 7.2-RELEASE does not contain the __stack_chk_fail_local symbol. What am I missing? I tried adding '-lssp' to the --with-libs option included in CONFIGURE_ARGS in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/Makefile with no change in behavior. As it stands, I cannot build anything that relies on Net-SNMP. --=20 John D. "Trix" Farrar, CCNA __\\|//__ Basement.NET trix@basement.net (` o-o ') http://www.basement.net/ -----------------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------------- GPG Key Fprint: 525F DBA7 1A62 E4C4 E642 DF95 384B B851 3CEF C10A --JSkcQAAxhB1h8DcT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkscVH4ACgkQOEu4UTzvwQq83ACff3NUFP0RwYfcCvEC9fsyF3/J NWgAoMSRNpE2cQqOb1ay1zOyXM1Km0Ii =WK1s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --JSkcQAAxhB1h8DcT-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 02:42:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 393FE106566B for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 02:42:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xkyanh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f194.google.com (mail-yw0-f194.google.com [209.85.211.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E39718FC08 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 02:42:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh32 with SMTP id 32so4269590ywh.14 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:42:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:organization:x-operating-system:x-mailer:user-agent :x-face:face:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hFar0/A2RfZJ6SwSsWoYRp55nhRY7mBR8K8ESPxjn9M=; b=rVI7sbuEJQrFYWtivmvWhfIH4BA5UgW762hUFmXBuOSbzZCG/53KknFl13+MbJJevT R1O+KsfdkLzIslygfkuZG52f26ZNE1a+VWRRHo3HSBRT1V2lWtLzxhdcABcBZWRt/4bj X5Yc1ximAJKAUBtwKctrVr4MmB6PSDc16KcrM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:organization:x-operating-system :x-mailer:user-agent:x-face:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=CiH7QfwmWXgmttRXVDQOrQ2iLrzPIiZIMVpT0hCkGfxjzGCnNpc4jL/M5X3ggFoBbm oFBVACMBH2gEODiWuMZT8QcvtmcVXjRtOe1I+nAxHLpg4P0F6SJEiuTk5Xb6ABUDKqWH kgvVdLyw8IsPisj5nho5NKqXV/tBde8RPClBM= Received: by 10.150.111.26 with SMTP id j26mr10078111ybc.268.1260152274423; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:17:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from icy.localdomain ([118.69.224.251]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm1857403ywd.7.2009.12.06.18.17.53 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:17:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:17:40 +0700 From: "Anh K. =?UTF-8?B?SHXhu7NuaA==?=" To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20091207091740.03a5180d@icy.localdomain> Organization: Vietnamese TeX Users Group X-Operating-System: Windows 98 X-Mailer: Moveup mail client (windows 98) User-Agent: Moveup mail on Windows 98 X-Face: no-face Face: no-face Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: ndis driver: invalid argument (freebsd 8.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 02:42:21 -0000 Hi all, I compiled `bcmwl5` module by `ndisgen` then loaded that module successfully, but I get the `invalid argument` error: $ ifconfig ndis0 ssid TOM-and-JERRY ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Invalid argument What's wrong to my ndis driver? I read /usr/src/UPDATING and wireless section in the Handbook but found nothing special. So I post here for your helps. Thank you, -- Anh K. Huynh - TeX: http://viettug.org/ - BSD: http://lovebsd.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 03:05:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD59106566C for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 03:05:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53E0F8FC08 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 03:05:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so1631002fxm.13 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 19:05:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sMeq4DTUncNItjs0WQbUYbp4DknZObrxyC1R/dsSkSc=; b=hNVmmra6Xjs3Zirm6jfBUSRS1uQ/62ZDZnUGN1x35VObWQEM3c78tQWoUdf6NZDczv fiwtJykk7VXdXQIS0QmlhxTiI1WMaz4aXkL2ZlgJ8YYGujd49Zm7QnLmKuCNtsXaTUoL j+RRhlF80Fu11nStIGwSZc6aRonIbBbKl1sU8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=THMyNTRe5epiPleMb6TX1JqV53FwA530BQgNVjoUb5bO3zmSj7fZhmOuxR0SXyqLBR YwjfsD3DhzkXHxolhGIfW3xlmftg9ql37OILpHMHvN2miYM/cXAyWHTRVK2tDf+a7t8n 7n+XDqCsp3DPsfrlSkI2enWL1egoqviIGlWmo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.6.142 with SMTP id 14mr937489faz.43.1260155133349; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 19:05:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091207091740.03a5180d@icy.localdomain> References: <20091207091740.03a5180d@icy.localdomain> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 22:05:33 -0500 Message-ID: <4ad871310912061905j3ef2d882x103c084be2c0629a@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: =?UTF-8?B?QW5oIEsuIEh14buzbmg=?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: ndis driver: invalid argument (freebsd 8.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 03:05:34 -0000 Hi On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Anh K. Hu=E1=BB=B3nh wro= te: > Hi all, > > I compiled `bcmwl5` module by `ndisgen` then loaded that module successfu= lly, but I get the `invalid argument` error: > > $ ifconfig ndis0 ssid TOM-and-JERRY > ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Invalid argument > > What's wrong to my ndis driver? I read /usr/src/UPDATING and wireless sec= tion in the Handbook but found nothing special. So I post here for your hel= ps. > 1.) Are your kernel and userland in sync? 2.) What is the output of 'uname -a'? If 8.X, read the 20080420 entry in src/UPDATING. Regards, --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 05:29:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5D21065679 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 05:29:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xkyanh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f200.google.com (mail-px0-f200.google.com [209.85.216.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E348FC0C for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 05:29:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi38 with SMTP id 38so840684pxi.28 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 21:29:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization:x-operating-system :x-mailer:user-agent:x-face:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wt1GlcqoAYX22f/P37yPQWE8TXnh1pW/5k0SBjVltzE=; b=jlWdHr3iowg0OOuv2Ub5xcpZyFnors9kCAWk8hQXbVvlhurK7lRKOtmRByLOx8w0wF y8i+2zgZXqkl57HGtUC+XKS4/MQnprPmB3Erl4Ai11nXFT0SGGckAShE3SUoXyC4lOeA zddDJUQ8QYPcTL1wf+pYS7hC3B92gwyXJMpbo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :organization:x-operating-system:x-mailer:user-agent:x-face:face :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IAkR90inA/a/tnzvubr19ULIrdBrIkJWCVy3oNnkMY8ex/+55c4LbfUbdBHyVBK1Fq iCdv1gT6FoGCr0GBWeih7QGZSRFBZKF14rRALGO/OFrruUW5NYhg4I8BwlFbOrGSnqQj +k/G5IG3sCexR/e4KyliMoNver/6lXTee2Opc= Received: by 10.114.163.16 with SMTP id l16mr10793004wae.39.1260163754274; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 21:29:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from icy.localdomain ([118.69.224.251]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm4897160pzk.6.2009.12.06.21.29.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 06 Dec 2009 21:29:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 12:28:31 +0700 From: "Anh K. =?UTF-8?B?SHXhu7NuaA==?=" To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20091207122831.15496356@icy.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <4ad871310912061905j3ef2d882x103c084be2c0629a@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091207091740.03a5180d@icy.localdomain> <4ad871310912061905j3ef2d882x103c084be2c0629a@mail.gmail.com> Organization: Vietnamese TeX Users Group X-Operating-System: Windows 98 X-Mailer: Moveup mail client (windows 98) User-Agent: Moveup mail on Windows 98 X-Face: no-face Face: no-face Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Glen Barber Subject: Re: ndis driver: invalid argument (freebsd 8.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 05:29:15 -0000 Hi, On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 22:05:33 -0500 Glen Barber wrote: > Hi >=20 > On Sun, Dec 6, 20309 at 9:17 PM, Anh K. Hu=E1=BB=B3nh > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I compiled `bcmwl5` module by `ndisgen` then loaded that module > > successfully, but I get the `invalid argument` error: > > > > $ ifconfig ndis0 ssid TOM-and-JERRY > > ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Invalid argument > > > > What's wrong to my ndis driver? I read /usr/src/UPDATING and > > wireless section in the Handbook but found nothing special. So I > > post here for your helps. > > >=20 > 1.) Are your kernel and userland in sync? >=20 > 2.) What is the output of 'uname -a'? If 8.X, read the 20080420 > entry in src/UPDATING. >=20 I am using 8.0-RELEASE (upgraded from 7.2-RELEASE). I've read the 20080420 = entry and configured my card successfully. (I read that section before aski= ng in list but I confused.) Thank you Gren and I am sorry for my noise. Regards, --=20 Anh K. Huynh - TeX: http://viettug.org/ - BSD: http://lovebsd.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 06:49:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E1C106566C for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 06:49:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D953B8FC0A for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 06:49:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB76nqCj036704 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 06:49:53 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk nB76nqCj036704 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1260168593; bh=fpYduondjlY7lo2oCCabtLX58OzjAoa+XjCf0BZV28Y=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B1CA589.4010300@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20M on,=2007=20Dec=202009=2006:49:45=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20091129)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20FreeBSD=20Questions=20|Subject:=20Re:=20Net-SNMP=20and=20ProPolice=20under=208.0-REL EASE|References:=20<20091207010358.GG70263@basement.net>|In-Reply- To:=20<20091207010358.GG70263@basement.net>|X-Enigmail-Version:=20 0.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3 B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20bounda ry=3D"------------enig545231FD44D00742C8662F33"; b=tDvhCnQpANBHX3o3B3O8SkNZDHJGuO4Pw97BWG3LqP6zGajvnFp0ivVjhXZjA/aNB jMsF8IVXLEaoncELEF3cY4y7S44DhGt8dJ3Nq4CTtGEga2mbB4u7Cl/Xk/gP0a9HBD 0S07S+xa2L/7q5yUjol7hbi9oXBRpwvdNTiaFPiY= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4B1CA589.4010300@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:49:45 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20091207010358.GG70263@basement.net> In-Reply-To: <20091207010358.GG70263@basement.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig545231FD44D00742C8662F33" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: Net-SNMP and ProPolice under 8.0-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:49:59 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig545231FD44D00742C8662F33 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Trix Farrar wrote: > The Net-SNMP port (net-mgmt/net-snmp) builds and appears to work just > fine, but I cannot build the SNMP module for PHP (net-mgmt/php5-snmp). >=20 > Attempting to build php5-snmp fails during the configure stage. The > error message says to check the config.log. In the > /usr/ports/net-mgmt/php5-snmp/work/php-5.2.11/ext/snmp/config.log file > I found: >=20 > configure:5967: checking for snmp_parse_oid in -lnetsnmp > configure:6002: cc -o conftest -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -R/usr/l= ocal/lib -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -lcrypto -lssl -rpath=3D/usr/= local/lib -lnetsnmp -lelf -lm -lkvm -ldevstat conftest.c -lnetsnmp >&5 > /usr/local/lib/libnetsnmp.so: undefined reference to `__stack_chk_fail_= local' >=20 > Google-ing around, I have found that the __stack_chk_fail_local symbol > is a side effect of compiling with the '-fstack-protector' option for > gcc -- which, I believe, is the default for 8.0-RELEASE. Searching > /usr/src, I found that this function is referenced in > /usr/src/lib/libc/sys/stack_protector.c, but appears to be defined in > /usr/src/contrib/gcclibs/libssp/ssp.c, which is part of GCC. I > believe that this winds up in /lib/libssp.so.0 -- which also exists > under 7.2-RELEASE. >=20 > The copy of net-mgmt/net-snmp that I compiled under 7.2-RELEASE does > not contain the __stack_chk_fail_local symbol. >=20 > What am I missing? I tried adding '-lssp' to the --with-libs option > included in CONFIGURE_ARGS in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp/Makefile > with no change in behavior. As it stands, I cannot build anything > that relies on Net-SNMP. >=20 Yes -- you're not alone. I've seen exactly the same thing, but only on one machine. It works perfectly on an amd64 box running 8.0-RELEASE-p1, but fails miserably on an i386 box running 8.0-STABLE. Time to warm up send-pr(1). Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig545231FD44D00742C8662F33 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkscpZAACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyi6wCbBv/WNqZzG7uuX3NYVGUwfOQw y5MAn3awCrC2rJEkn/ZdeK/Z9V+qvSC8 =id0X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig545231FD44D00742C8662F33-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 07:16:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF89106568D for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 07:16:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7CE8FC1D for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 07:16:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB77GQC7041692 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 07:16:27 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk nB77GQC7041692 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1260170187; bh=ShCTJIwivq8cco10Sf6QYqZi3hU8huaA87gq2sVf6Dc=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B1CABC4.6010502@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20M on,=2007=20Dec=202009=2007:16:20=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20091129)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20FreeBSD=20Questions=20|Subject:=20Re:=20Net-SNMP=20and=20ProPolice=20under=208.0-REL EASE|References:=20<20091207010358.GG70263@basement.net>=20<4B1CA5 89.4010300@infracaninophile.co.uk>|In-Reply-To:=20<4B1CA589.401030 0@infracaninophile.co.uk>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Typ e:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol =3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------ enigF057BA18C61E3AD376B5682C"; b=N6ZqbfBi8Inpue+cDrPoDZdZFUJKPF3GmI84bioZIkZqk4sphTP181JpNQU2mqKjb dA3tZDg4T4qk3IcozHj/T7USBwuqMomnIOGHiEB4G+fV5wqwiokmCMcNVN4xza8+ps KR8C6uD17udj8/cAPGJ6pdKQENd3sfHgyDJq+W6Q= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4B1CABC4.6010502@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 07:16:20 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20091207010358.GG70263@basement.net> <4B1CA589.4010300@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B1CA589.4010300@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF057BA18C61E3AD376B5682C" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: Net-SNMP and ProPolice under 8.0-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 07:16:32 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF057BA18C61E3AD376B5682C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matthew Seaman wrote: > Trix Farrar wrote: >> The Net-SNMP port (net-mgmt/net-snmp) builds and appears to work just >> fine, but I cannot build the SNMP module for PHP (net-mgmt/php5-snmp).= > Time to warm up send-pr(1). ports/141238 if you want to add your report. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigF057BA18C61E3AD376B5682C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkscq8oACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxoaQCfVG1jikKbzGz79+nxxBIA4+qu oeYAnRO7lfsWECE53i4VPN4VwdWQvigS =HJPK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF057BA18C61E3AD376B5682C-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 08:02:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB711065679 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 08:02:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB708FC08 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 08:02:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 22so1075504eye.9 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 00:02:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=SHEGl8JqaA/ivy9+AbIajNKNaRQyvCIzp8CByOsuBlA=; b=byQFW68BHi5dapHi9CyX0HaoqX5a6W20JO6FM2+0mQTBBbcoKbf9N4ubtb2KvNy9MR sJmkDbxQwI7VVR6wAAqOAjPQMkdJP97EvB7yu08KXM84GlCur8iOsbLFBfE8x0vRkC+w Bkbl9B+C8OdUPNiS1PJkvbeUwGeTpHZQG0aFI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=KBj8iC7pY1wZDGSejQU9IWGK/8AjStljbiL7DCHozDHXHMg6FfoY3fmgK3RLSVNJb9 wJtXfpcjbYitJXkjHOT+1JruOAt1vTifRPIaxhdNnghh7acy/5tccjPd/wzy5lIXTwEI z+lIW4DHfk2aIsL4UwuIxQoJotPy2eJPeqTrg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.91.81 with SMTP id g59mr2221779wef.128.1260172928801; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 00:02:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 03:02:08 -0500 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Net-SNMP and ProPolice under 8.0-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 08:02:10 -0000 >Matthew Seaman wrote: >> Trix Farrar wrote: >>> The Net-SNMP port (net-mgmt/net-snmp) builds and appears to work just >>> fine, but I cannot build the SNMP module for PHP (net-mgmt/php5-snmp). >> Time to warm up send-pr(1). >ports/141238 if you want to add your report. There will be a number of such problems, because stack protection was enabled in parts of the base system, but it is not now adequately supported in Ports. See: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/140791 b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 09:54:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A01A1065676 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:54:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.huth@tmr.net) Received: from bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net (bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net [212.23.146.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC1848FC19 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:54:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.de.tmr.net [127.0.0.1]) by bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB28E1DECCD for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:54:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04858-01-89 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:54:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (ip-77-24-45-218.web.vodafone.de [77.24.45.218]) by bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C1B1DEC1B for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:54:22 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:54:16 +0100 From: Alex Huth To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20091207095416.GA3765@borusse.borussiapark> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Predence: first-class Priority: normal X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.1 (2007 May 12, compiled Oct 17 2008 18:11:28) X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.26-2-686 i686 GNU/Linux X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.18 (2008-05-17) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Subject: update/upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 09:54:26 -0000 Hello! Maybe i haven't understand the process of updating not really. I thought when i use Releng_6 in the stable_supfile i get the latest version of 6.x = 6.4. But after the process of make buildworld and so on, it is still 6.3. Do i have to use Releng_6_4 even when i do not get the patches then? Next question is if i don't get updates with freebsd-update when i have a stable version? I have the problem with two machines (6.3 and 6.4). On both i do not get the public key because it is not available on the remote server. I have test it with debug. thx Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 10:21:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2817106566B for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:21:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424198FC20 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:21:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from significant-gravitas-shortfall.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB7ALUB3076109 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:21:40 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk nB7ALUB3076109 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1260181300; bh=EP/3GRFyyBaWv+iZ8MwTPjX268jQbY7gyrTcFZsk57Q=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B1CD725.8030607@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20M on,=2007=20Dec=202009=2010:21:25=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20091202)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Alex=20Huth=20|CC:=20freebsd-ques tions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20update/upgrade=20question|Refer ences:=20<20091207095416.GA3765@borusse.borussiapark>|In-Reply-To: =20<20091207095416.GA3765@borusse.borussiapark>|X-Enigmail-Version :=200.95.7|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multipart/sign ed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-s ignature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig44F92B445A40DB29E 84B0E6B"; b=lKS/TupXJyNcYTIjJKai6zYJe/gQd/rDRxpVD7rTqszCjEKq8FiqWsFYIveKOJJqA 9PCcLKDMyZbP0nv3LqHKz7x977QWzHyXPLrJCKGFmwDeqCP3TnQnKSDcKCyUx243y9 339wQ1O8Z4yUTydt0+6KmVh7Yllst+0Pcbj4F20Y= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4] claimed to be significant-gravitas-shortfall.thebunker.net Message-ID: <4B1CD725.8030607@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 10:21:25 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091202) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Huth References: <20091207095416.GA3765@borusse.borussiapark> In-Reply-To: <20091207095416.GA3765@borusse.borussiapark> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig44F92B445A40DB29E84B0E6B" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: update/upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 10:21:46 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig44F92B445A40DB29E84B0E6B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alex Huth wrote: > Hello! >=20 > Maybe i haven't understand the process of updating not really. I though= t when > i use Releng_6 in the stable_supfile i get the latest version of 6.x =3D= 6.4. > But after the process of make buildworld and so on, it is still 6.3. Do= i have > to use Releng_6_4 even when i do not get the patches then? RELENG_6 will give you the latest from the 6.x-STABLE development branch.= =20 According to: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh?rev=3D1.69.= 2.21;content-type=3Dtext%2Fx-cvsweb-markup;only_with_tag=3DRELENG_6 this will call itself 6.4-STABLE. It will have all of the same=20 security/errata patches as the 6.4-RELEASE branch plus any development wo= rk that=20 has been done on 6.x (which will have been pretty minimal lately since th= e focus is now on 9-CURRENT / 8-STABLE) There's not a lot of differences between= =20 RELENG_6 and RELENG_6_4 nowadays. The fact that you aren't seeing your version reported as 6.4-STABLE indic= ates=20 something went wrong with your upgrade process and you haven't actually b= ooted your system from an updated kernel. > Next question is if i don't get updates with freebsd-update when i have= > a stable version? I have the problem with two machines (6.3 and 6.4). O= n both > i do not get the public key because it is not available on the remote s= erver. > I have test it with debug. freebsd-update only covers the RELEASE branches. That is equivalent to RELENG_6_3 or RELENG_6_4 in your cases. However 6.3-RELEASE is due to go= out of support on the 31st January (http://www.freebsd.org/security/security.= html) so now would be a good time to think about upgrading. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. Flat 3 7 Priory Courtyard PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW, UK --------------enig44F92B445A40DB29E84B0E6B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAksc1yoACgkQ3jDkPpsZ+VbMWwCghemMyHGkTj4y4wXrAczPinTj q3QAmwfp+dV7tnJXdHKRXVX8MyWm0Arh =3aWv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig44F92B445A40DB29E84B0E6B-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 10:53:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B5C1065670 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:53:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.huth@tmr.net) Received: from bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net (bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net [212.23.146.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81A058FC15 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:53:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.de.tmr.net [127.0.0.1]) by bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D4111DED87 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:53:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 17233-01-10 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:53:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (bo-stwhv-fw02.de.tmr.net [212.23.140.253]) by bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FC1B1DED81 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:53:34 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:53:32 +0100 From: Alex Huth To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091207105332.GC3765@borusse.borussiapark> References: <20091207095416.GA3765@borusse.borussiapark> <4B1CD725.8030607@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B1CD725.8030607@infracaninophile.co.uk> Predence: first-class Priority: normal X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.1 (2007 May 12, compiled Oct 17 2008 18:11:28) X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.26-2-686 i686 GNU/Linux X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.18 (2008-05-17) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: update/upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 10:53:35 -0000 * Matthew Seaman schrieb: > > Next question is if i don't get updates with freebsd-update when i have > > a stable version? I have the problem with two machines (6.3 and 6.4). On both > > i do not get the public key because it is not available on the remote server. > > I have test it with debug. > > freebsd-update only covers the RELEASE branches. That is equivalent to > RELENG_6_3 or RELENG_6_4 in your cases. However 6.3-RELEASE is due to go out > of support on the 31st January (http://www.freebsd.org/security/security.html) > so now would be a good time to think about upgrading. > So if i understand that right, it is not possible to follow the engeneering in stable and having all patches without using the way over "make buildworld ..."? thx Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 11:24:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E0C106566B for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:24:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54078FC0C for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:24:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from significant-gravitas-shortfall.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB7BO2Qt078710 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:24:02 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk nB7BO2Qt078710 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1260185043; bh=KMss0MGNde2XlLJxF3Ug1EqF9xkxSXmtlSd1bKi4I6Q=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B1CE5CC.409@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Mon,= 2007=20Dec=202009=2011:23:56=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|U ser-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20091202)|MIME-Version: =201.0|To:=20Alex=20Huth=20|CC:=20freebsd-question s@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20update/upgrade=20question|Reference s:=20<20091207095416.GA3765@borusse.borussiapark>=09<4B1CD725.8030 607@infracaninophile.co.uk>=20<20091207105332.GC3765@borusse.borus siapark>|In-Reply-To:=20<20091207105332.GC3765@borusse.borussiapar k>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.7|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-T ype:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol =3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------ enig9956F4AB72994C6B141FF53E"; b=jKGGt8P8eqK6MSGdyByMpTXhmJGdmzc81vecyUI379DyYFEwD2jJojkRyOsOQp4Vo sWontRblh4O4csiX1FnV4V0KJ6DiUnl2K+oSrQspSokS6G4HqlbMIlMrChcnCojnNG 54VWK0KVls8+D4bwcES/b7YRovJfv77FVgF5YsTQ= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4] claimed to be significant-gravitas-shortfall.thebunker.net Message-ID: <4B1CE5CC.409@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 11:23:56 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091202) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Huth References: <20091207095416.GA3765@borusse.borussiapark> <4B1CD725.8030607@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20091207105332.GC3765@borusse.borussiapark> In-Reply-To: <20091207105332.GC3765@borusse.borussiapark> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig9956F4AB72994C6B141FF53E" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: update/upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 11:24:09 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig9956F4AB72994C6B141FF53E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alex Huth wrote: > * Matthew Seaman schrieb: >>> Next question is if i don't get updates with freebsd-update when i ha= ve >>> a stable version? I have the problem with two machines (6.3 and 6.4).= On both >>> i do not get the public key because it is not available on the remote= server. >>> I have test it with debug. >> freebsd-update only covers the RELEASE branches. That is equivalent t= o >> RELENG_6_3 or RELENG_6_4 in your cases. However 6.3-RELEASE is due to= go out >> of support on the 31st January (http://www.freebsd.org/security/securi= ty.html) >> so now would be a good time to think about upgrading. > So if i understand that right, it is not possible to follow the engenee= ring in > stable and having all patches without using the way over "make buildwor= ld > ..."? Yes. If you want to track one of the development branches (HEAD, RELENG_= N) then you have to update sources by csup(1) or various other mechanisms an= d then compile your kernel+world yourself. Alternatively you can track release branches (RELENG_N_M) in the same way= , or so long as the release branch is still in support, you can use freebsd-update(8) to pull down pre-built binary updates.=20 Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. Flat 3 7 Priory Courtyard PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW, UK --------------enig9956F4AB72994C6B141FF53E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAksc5dIACgkQ3jDkPpsZ+VZCcQCgtq2lfQpUSIreVzTnhtYO9ATa oisAnRL09DKTA5BVlLZbEM8CjsVy4Ldz =LjaF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig9956F4AB72994C6B141FF53E-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 11:24:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDC45106568B for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:24:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@coosemans.org) Received: from mailrelay009.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay009.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3B88FC19 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:24:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArcEAPVzHEtR9SS5/2dsb2JhbACBS9YChDMEgWc Received: from 185.36-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.atlascopco.be) ([81.245.36.185]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 07 Dec 2009 12:24:11 +0100 Received: from kalimero.atlascopco.be (kalimero.atlascopco.be [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.atlascopco.be (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB7BOB1v036415; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 12:24:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tijl@coosemans.org) From: Tijl Coosemans To: Andrea Venturoli Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 12:24:09 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4B1A5644.4090302@netfence.it> In-Reply-To: <4B1A5644.4090302@netfence.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200912071224.11130.tijl@coosemans.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WINE on 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 11:24:13 -0000 On Saturday 05 December 2009 13:47:00 Andrea Venturoli wrote: > Is WINE usable on 6.3/i386? > I cannot seem to start any win32 program and before I spend time into > it, I thought I just ask. You probably need the FreeBSD 6.x patch at http://wiki.freebsd.org/Wine From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 09:42:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6EF9106568F for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:42:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sverre97pettersen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f194.google.com (mail-yw0-f194.google.com [209.85.211.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E0E8FC13 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:42:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh32 with SMTP id 32so4476875ywh.14 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 01:42:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=9VkLBVFiYSbNm8OK53aL8aBQUBlWoim1Yh/lc+LVjQE=; b=wMUzDYKQ6NayEyR2oK4wOADscFv8xLeGuwZlfIWNEnYClrdZzDVG7/IwtX/lETcsm5 Ob/NYQfe+H1Y5zaNc9hONN7nRsmXkGLwj+t+LCevQAAPk2NMr5MZk4qX7dyUN76I9FZK jyFb+3kW6olgz/ZhY1LxhK/uvyB0V3R9PYWbs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=gt3uc1rtYS+9DBrGrl2PBu+fbtmtyudufc1rKmC221/ILv9ZOSeVQ6H7eRzo1KqYN0 OcWmIGwoera4/NgDfKD6jBExMTLxUaFhMEbG6TioOSjN35YElbx+UtGeGqTqirK4G17B T1Vfky6JdQN1duvifltjRENVtwvuS7LlOqFoI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.106.24 with SMTP id i24mr5147495anm.102.1260177186041; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 01:13:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:13:06 +0100 Message-ID: From: Sverre Vegard Pettersen To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:01:09 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Missing link in ports tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 09:42:01 -0000 Dear Sirs, I have just installed FreeBSD 7.2-Release from a dvd image I downloaded, with KDE windows manager. I immidiately cvsup'ed my ports-supfile, completeing with "make fetchindex" from /usr/ports. When trying to install hplip from /usr/ports/print, I am told to update several qt4 ports from version 4.5.2 to 4.5.3. The only trouble is: qt4-dbus-4.5.3 is not to be found in my ports tree, and I can not find the source-files on the net either. For instance, from this server list: http://www.freebsd.org/ports/devel.html, it is clear that there should be such a port, but the files are nowhere to be found. I have managed to download "qt-x11-opensource-src-4.5.3.tar.gz" now, so I will try to install the complete qt4-4.5.3 port and hope dbus is to be found there. I just wanted to let you know in case this is a minor bug to be dealt with outside my machine... :-p Best regards, Sverre Vegard Pettersen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 13:07:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2307A10656C2 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F838FC22 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:07:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so1923425fxm.13 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 05:07:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=0Xk8GD+jOTB9uFZijNE+4njVhOE5G0kpEdobILp5b00=; b=x22A9bvtosd2Z4fVB6gR1zl11qS5pjqeiCa+mI+d/qEeQIgVqB+UjboqQbwvqPFNoX 5r8e3ow7U7PzDTnTBasSBszW11nRwKSClc+Nd3r9+tMdq+n+jILdBVZqWNKXOxJS+5S6 4atwuEM6wT55K+Mfw+XECS1qGgK/aUwdljVM0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=lkJDOd1WC+LGn1KA4vRereos1p+0LZWE7hss0f+y7PARwHT3v50oIxRdEAQOQbsQGS WSxxx0qDbTu8H5U59whkJ4IpCS1orGgry/uYCKwTUAS832Oj0G+s23S9jehDUVGEsH1/ LCeADa3OVXnlaEc/dWovaQnc88mXvFEgx/Tz0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.163.201 with SMTP id q9mr733293hbd.38.1260191258578; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 05:07:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:07:38 +0000 Message-ID: From: krad To: Free BSD Questions list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: zfs v22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:07:40 -0000 Hi are there any plans to port zfs v22+ to freebsd yet? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 13:17:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1756C106566C; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:17:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 482254ac@razorfever.net) Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35768FC12; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:17:13 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmkJAJ6PHEtMCrCL/2dsb2JhbACBSxqXL758hDMEih4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,355,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="50892827" Received: from 76-10-176-139.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO server.razorfever.net) ([76.10.176.139]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 07 Dec 2009 08:17:08 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.197] ([192.168.0.197]) by server.razorfever.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nB7DDVVd047142; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 08:13:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from 482254ac@razorfever.net) Message-ID: <4B1D0054.4060406@razorfever.net> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 08:17:08 -0500 From: "Derek (freebsd lists)" <482254ac@razorfever.net> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Smith References: <20091128113000.BBDF410656E6@hub.freebsd.org> <20091205212857.H34611@sola.nimnet.asn.au> In-Reply-To: <20091205212857.H34611@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at server.razorfever.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Randi Harper Subject: Re: 8.0-RELEASE-i386-memstick fixit - No USB devices found! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:17:14 -0000 Ian Smith wrote: > Very long story short: googled for ages and found a forum thread about > this very problem, in which someone suggested Options / Rescan Devices > then trying again. The OP there said it didn't work for him, but it > sure did for me! > > Options / Rescan Devices fixed it for me. Maybe it will for Derek > and/or maybe provide another clue? Indeed this works for me. I've added a follow-up to the PR. Thanks for the tip! - Derek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 13:35:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 612F71065670 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:35:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDFE8FC0C for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:35:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from yokozuna.lan (213-84-73-82.adsl.xs4all.nl [80.101.78.208]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nB7DMt4f000756 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:22:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from yokozuna.lan (yokozuna.lan [127.0.0.1]) by yokozuna.lan (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB7DMtqE006707 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:22:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:22:55 +0100 (CET) From: Marco Beishuizen Sender: marco@yokozuna.lan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: radeonhd 1.3.0 slow window moving X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:35:02 -0000 Hi, I upgraded the radeonhd driver from 1.2.5 to 1.3.0. It seems to work fine, except when moving a window. As far as I can see all other actions like scrolling or resizing is quick, but moving windows goes really slow. In my xorg.conf the modules "extmod", "record", "dbe", "glx", "dbi" and "dbi2" are loaded. In the device section I have two options enabled: - "AccelMethod" "EXA" - "DRI" "on" In my x.org logfile are no errors. Does anyone else has experienced this? My Radeon is a HD4870 and I'm running FreeBSD 8.0-ST. Thanks in advance. Regards, Marco -- The more you complain, the longer God lets you live. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 13:44:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3EAC1065672 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:44:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216F38FC1A for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:44:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from significant-gravitas-shortfall.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB7DhvDC083540 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:43:58 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk nB7DhvDC083540 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1260193438; bh=TLVf+52SVZ6ED/8UPX0qF7XgLOcjo354qyNIn3XU4Uo=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4B1D0698.7010903@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20M on,=2007=20Dec=202009=2013:43:52=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20091202)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Sverre=20Vegard=20Pettersen=20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Mi ssing=20link=20in=20ports=20tree|References:=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-V ersion:=200.95.7|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multipar t/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application /pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig372B2A5E0AC 558CECDCB6E1A"; b=VFPVB7kc2cGtpQMoPAKCI9VBblUsGueIMzdsJ8y4Z+t0jxnfA4cOZ+ki00qY1elpw T6BN1AyPb1Kbt+qK2VOXqyOHJskOnK4jCi/6sBbXjl1F34CF9L4i35d1ZuQdavCB7c +s4Duo/89QFLLwX1CBEeZJ6gmZoiIAXlJQyk0yig= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4] claimed to be significant-gravitas-shortfall.thebunker.net Message-ID: <4B1D0698.7010903@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:43:52 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091202) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sverre Vegard Pettersen References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig372B2A5E0AC558CECDCB6E1A" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, DEAR_SOMETHING, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VERIFIED,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Missing link in ports tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:44:03 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig372B2A5E0AC558CECDCB6E1A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sverre Vegard Pettersen wrote: > Dear Sirs, >=20 > I have just installed FreeBSD 7.2-Release from a dvd image I downloaded= , > with KDE windows manager. I immidiately cvsup'ed my ports-supfile, > completeing with "make fetchindex" from /usr/ports. When trying to inst= all > hplip from /usr/ports/print, I am told to update several qt4 ports from= > version 4.5.2 to 4.5.3. The only trouble is: qt4-dbus-4.5.3 is not to b= e > found in my ports tree, and I can not find the source-files on the net > either. % pkg_info -ox qt4-dbus Information for qt4-dbus-4.5.3: Origin: devel/dbus-qt4 Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. Flat 3 7 Priory Courtyard PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW, UK --------------enig372B2A5E0AC558CECDCB6E1A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAksdBp0ACgkQ3jDkPpsZ+VZm3gCgj1HhufEB5gYRZYedG9o0XyVN 9jkAoI+0fgIdCli8kLLhH7uYI6j7mCJ8 =SssW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig372B2A5E0AC558CECDCB6E1A-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 13:47:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7B41065679; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:47:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B2588FC0A; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:47:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nB7DmMpp076526; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 00:48:22 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 00:48:21 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: "Derek (freebsd lists)" <482254ac@razorfever.net> In-Reply-To: <4B1D0054.4060406@razorfever.net> Message-ID: <20091208003536.H12012@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20091128113000.BBDF410656E6@hub.freebsd.org> <20091205212857.H34611@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4B1D0054.4060406@razorfever.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Randi Harper Subject: Re: 8.0-RELEASE-i386-memstick fixit - No USB devices found! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:47:12 -0000 On Mon, 7 Dec 2009, Derek (freebsd lists) wrote: > Ian Smith wrote: > > > > Options / Rescan Devices fixed it for me. Maybe it will for Derek > > and/or maybe provide another clue? > > Indeed this works for me. I've added a follow-up to the PR. > > Thanks for the tip! Good to hear. Randi, thanks for your detailed response. Picked up the 'flu visiting Sydney and have been well out of it; hoping for a little energy soon. If nothing else, might adding a quick "(try Options/Rescan Devices)" to the "No USB devices" message text help some folks out of this quandary? cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 14:23:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097A5106568F for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:23:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from geo.liaskos@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95DDA8FC15 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:23:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so1996825fxm.13 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:23:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=2OPbdpdURElpe+J7boZiU1VzHzWUHPcd0lRyLBQfkdY=; b=J8/NT75EJa6AYDYRDRBryz9+gX0dSSf86cBEFRpliWsGdoSnpLdRLDrOMGLRkR9blg sGnJfYDypVMteE+hrW8zaWAHIPlinE0QpbI0XenCRUz+3h045oGGFtt38e/gvYb0g8Bw wShzbhSCHtnqVu9Np+i2Jsr1awHyAIGWZp1dE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=j/Xqy0mqrDpfr588tQBl1l/L+W4OgLKuoP8K6GpYh4Nd7scDKb02GdNY4MpCj8L2Rn MUwJFrJJ4zO3pP8/Zb2KHMe3brs2L71E6KhViptxZ8GmBa9SF+g/6pRiscutQojWzhZZ UYls25bI23UiOARpoimnAaLbPJn7lUTNc6Gpc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.7.91 with SMTP id c27mr1004918fac.14.1260195801624; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:23:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:23:21 +0200 Message-ID: From: George Liaskos To: Marco Beishuizen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: radeonhd 1.3.0 slow window moving X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:23:23 -0000 Give x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati a try http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2009-December/009093.html On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Marco Beishuizen wrote: > > Hi, > > I upgraded the radeonhd driver from 1.2.5 to 1.3.0. It seems to work fine, > except when moving a window. As far as I can see all other actions like > scrolling or resizing is quick, but moving windows goes really slow. > > In my xorg.conf the modules "extmod", "record", "dbe", "glx", "dbi" and > "dbi2" are loaded. In the device section I have two options enabled: > - "AccelMethod" "EXA" > - "DRI" "on" > In my x.org logfile are no errors. > > Does anyone else has experienced this? > My Radeon is a HD4870 and I'm running FreeBSD 8.0-ST. > > Thanks in advance. > Regards, > Marco > > -- > The more you complain, the longer God lets you live. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 14:25:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1574106566B for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:25:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fsb@thefsb.org) Received: from smtp184.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp184.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CFC48FC1C for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:25:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay28.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay28.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BBCA11B41C1; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:25:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by relay28.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: fsb-AT-thefsb.org) with ESMTPSA id 8F8161B407B; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:25:35 -0500 (EST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.10.0.080409 Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 09:25:32 -0500 From: Tom Worster To: Ivo Karabojkov , Message-ID: Thread-Topic: won't boot after 8.0-RELEASE upgrade Thread-Index: Acp3SSH8uX1T+QBp/EmqLUSqUPNztA== In-Reply-To: <26667339.post@talk.nabble.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: won't boot after 8.0-RELEASE upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:25:36 -0000 On 12/6/09 1:06 PM, "Ivo Karabojkov" wrote: > Since I have some servers to manage I am very interested how should I > upgrade to 8.0 Rel? this is a big question. for my production servers i like to keep things simple and use the generic binary distribution. and i've been trying to develop a habit of using freebsd-update. but now i'm very nervous. unlike the machine that failed, my production systems have hw raid and don't use gmirror so i suspect the update may go smoothly. i also have a redundant config so i can take a machine offline to do the update. nevertheless, this experience has unnerved me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 14:33:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDA05106566B for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:33:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dhorn2000@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E978FC0A for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:33:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so2007749fxm.13 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:33:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JaoDTqi561ggA2ahMPkoQZisInqObyeB99z5w6EOB30=; b=h8J2eKu9fkP2IbblE3VzFeEL1oofK8FuDoGMQ+D6dqO+lk4rUUwHCr8asOT454dMoL xrLCPRLlwmIuxzqCqgHIDNNiRf+IlkikxxXes+63+Q84jiOjxx+MrvUaGLUaZgb0S7dh 91TjTCwOqGNaYau6S6+F39r+HkfIoixa+5RWo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gVhOPVF9SNQVsFbN9mbG8LaPZzUI9Sdxtk/QPfS0PZR+oypAKFqgfzL1bIQ/w72VbK kUXPrQ9/aOVWMdaQRN2DJqIHwIq2vhZenfFoIFQvPcz+mYzm4BO34euaGSgj4LfE8d96 5B/sIrSL5hWWyUS8df7viUu3g1bTv6zvM8KW4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.143.212 with SMTP id l20mr653713hba.210.1260196393099; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:33:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091207122831.15496356@icy.localdomain> References: <20091207091740.03a5180d@icy.localdomain> <4ad871310912061905j3ef2d882x103c084be2c0629a@mail.gmail.com> <20091207122831.15496356@icy.localdomain> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:33:13 -0500 Message-ID: <25ff90d60912070633v62acccc1g98efdcf0e81b41fc@mail.gmail.com> From: David Horn To: =?UTF-8?B?QW5oIEsuIEh14buzbmg=?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: ndis driver: invalid argument (freebsd 8.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:33:15 -0000 On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:28 AM, Anh K. Hu=E1=BB=B3nh wr= ote: > > Hi, > > On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 22:05:33 -0500 > Glen Barber wrote: > > > Hi > > > > On Sun, Dec 6, 20309 at 9:17 PM, Anh K. Hu=E1=BB=B3nh > > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I compiled `bcmwl5` module by `ndisgen` then loaded that module > > > successfully, but I get the `invalid argument` error: > > > > > > $ ifconfig ndis0 ssid TOM-and-JERRY > > > ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Invalid argument > > > > > > What's wrong to my ndis driver? I read /usr/src/UPDATING and > > > wireless section in the Handbook but found nothing special. So I > > > post here for your helps. > > > > > > > 1.) Are your kernel and userland in sync? > > > > 2.) What is the output of 'uname -a'? =C2=A0If 8.X, read the 20080420 > > entry in src/UPDATING. > > > > I am using 8.0-RELEASE (upgraded from 7.2-RELEASE). I've read the 2008042= 0 entry and configured my card successfully. (I read that section before as= king in list but I confused.) > If you have your /usr/src/ and kernel in sync (when you generated your ndis module), then try something like: ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev ndis0 ifconfig wlan0 ssid TOM-and-JERRY via rc.conf: wlans_ndis0=3D"wlan0" ifconfig_wlan0=3D"ssid TOM-and-JERRY" >From wlan(4) man page: Drivers provide 802.11 functionality through wlan interfaces that are created at runtime using interface cloning. This is done with the ifconfig(8) create command or using the wlans_IFX variable in rc.conf(= 5). Some drivers support the creation of multiple wlan interfaces that sha= re the same underlying device; this is the way by which ``multi-bss sup- port'' is provided but it can also be used to create WDS links and oth= er interesting applications. If you use WPA wireless security and DHCP on your wireless network, you should also look at wpa_supplicant(8) and wpa_supplicant.conf(5) and use something like: wlans_ndis0=3D"wlan0" ifconfig_wlan0=3D"WPA DHCP" and setup your /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf file as required with something like (entries vary based upon exact setup of your wireless network. See wpa_supplicant.conf man page): ctrl_interface=3D/var/run/wpa_supplicant ctrl_interface_group=3Dwheel network=3D{ ssid=3D"TOM-and-JERRY" key_mgmt=3DWPA-PSK psk=3D"very secret passphrase" } and of course make sure that the generated ndis module is loaded (via kldload or via /boot/loader.conf) before attempting to clone the interface with "ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev ndis0" See kldstat(8) man page and utility if you are unsure if your generated ndis kernel module is loaded. Good Luck. --Dave Horn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 14:49:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F5561065679 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:49:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) Received: from mailrelay002.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay002.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332148FC0A for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:49:51 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAGClHEvDDR/w/2dsb2JhbADZFoQzBIFnhAU Received: from event240.event.belbone.be (HELO localhost) ([195.13.31.240]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 07 Dec 2009 15:49:37 +0100 Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 15:48:39 +0100 From: "Alain G. Fabry" To: Marco Beishuizen Message-ID: <20091207144839.GA69352@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: radeonhd 1.3.0 slow window moving X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:49:52 -0000 On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 02:22:55PM +0100, Marco Beishuizen wrote: > > Hi, > > I upgraded the radeonhd driver from 1.2.5 to 1.3.0. It seems to work fine, > except when moving a window. As far as I can see all other actions like > scrolling or resizing is quick, but moving windows goes really slow. > > In my xorg.conf the modules "extmod", "record", "dbe", "glx", "dbi" and > "dbi2" are loaded. In the device section I have two options enabled: > - "AccelMethod" "EXA" > - "DRI" "on" > In my x.org logfile are no errors. > > Does anyone else has experienced this? > My Radeon is a HD4870 and I'm running FreeBSD 8.0-ST. > > Thanks in advance. > Regards, > Marco > I have exactly the same problem. I'll probably downgrade tonight to make sure this upgrade is the reason of the slowness. > -- > The more you complain, the longer God lets you live. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 14:55:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E25B106568F for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:55:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from ifdnrg18.ifdnrg.com (roaming.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4AF8FC19 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:55:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.119] (87-194-184-71.bethere.co.uk [87.194.184.71]) (authenticated bits=0) by ifdnrg18.ifdnrg.com (8.14.3/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nB7EMnlw084942 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:22:49 GMT (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Message-ID: <4B1D0FAE.1090107@ifdnrg.com> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:22:38 +0000 From: Paul Macdonald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ifdnrg18.ifdnrg.com Subject: ipfw + DDOS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:55:28 -0000 Hi, I have a nameserver that occassinally gets blitzed for a few minutes by a high number of dynamic and changing IP's. The nameserver doesn't give recursive lookups but 500,000 denied requests over 5-10 mins still hurts a bit. I use ipfw and had thought that rate limiting connections on the incoming port would help but I'm not sure if this is my best option. I've been doing some testing as part of the problem is generating enough traffic to simulate, but then i start to see dynamic ipfw rules kick in and i see very little in the named logs. Any advice appreciated. thanks Paul -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 15:30:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42074106568D for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 15:30:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF068FC1B for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 15:30:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from yokozuna.lan (213-84-73-82.adsl.xs4all.nl [80.101.78.208]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nB7FUGfa018280 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:30:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from yokozuna.lan (yokozuna.lan [127.0.0.1]) by yokozuna.lan (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB7FUG5n008444; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:30:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:30:16 +0100 (CET) From: Marco Beishuizen Sender: marco@yokozuna.lan To: George Liaskos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: radeonhd 1.3.0 slow window moving X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:30:19 -0000 On Mon, 7 Dec 2009, George Liaskos wrote: > Give x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati a try > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2009-December/009093.html What are the differences between the ati and the radeonhd driver? Is the ati-driver for all Ati cards and the radeonhd specifically for RadeonHD cards, or are there more differences? Regards, Marco -- It takes a smart husband to have the last word and not use it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 16:40:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF0F1065676 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:40:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 614B48FC12 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:40:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NHgdo-00058o-TZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 08:40:52 -0800 Message-ID: <26679927.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 08:40:52 -0800 (PST) From: Ivo Karabojkov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: ivo@kit-bg.com References: <26667339.post@talk.nabble.com> Subject: Re: won't boot after 8.0-RELEASE upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:40:53 -0000 I had to reformat my drive since I had reached "the point of no return"... So I am also nervous. My first failure was with a-kind-of hardware raid, ar, built with cheap VIA VT6421A controller. After installkernel the system refused to boot and on its display was message "hardware failure, you have to destroy and build the mirror again. You will lose ALL data". Frightening, isn't it. So i tested the disks, found them OK and replaced the controller - newer MB with GEOM mirror. Reformat, of course, occurred and all the data was salvaged from the mirror disk. Now I see the card works. It's something with FreeBSD 8.0. This system was installed with FreeBSD 5.1 about may be 4 years ago and upgraded via cvsup til now. I'm sharing this experience to bring your attention to major advice in the update procedure - to take full backup. I think good RAIDs do not store data on the disks in readable by any adapter with same interface format. My question is: how can I guess the result - "Glory" or "Sorrow" BEFORE starting the update? Otherwise, needless to say, 8.0 works perfectly. I mostly use AMD64 version. Tom Worster wrote: > > On 12/6/09 1:06 PM, "Ivo Karabojkov" wrote: > >> Since I have some servers to manage I am very interested how should I >> upgrade to 8.0 Rel? > > this is a big question. > > for my production servers i like to keep things simple and use the generic > binary distribution. and i've been trying to develop a habit of using > freebsd-update. but now i'm very nervous. > > unlike the machine that failed, my production systems have hw raid and > don't > use gmirror so i suspect the update may go smoothly. i also have a > redundant > config so i can take a machine offline to do the update. > > nevertheless, this experience has unnerved me. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/won%27t-boot-after-8.0-RELEASE-upgrade-tp26628661p26679927.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 16:41:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB031065696 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:41:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4494C8FC26 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:41:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB7GfcUT036067; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:41:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nB7GfciU036064; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:41:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 09:41:38 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Marco Beishuizen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 07 Dec 2009 09:41:38 -0700 (MST) Cc: George Liaskos , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: radeonhd 1.3.0 slow window moving X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:41:39 -0000 On Mon, 7 Dec 2009, Marco Beishuizen wrote: > On Mon, 7 Dec 2009, George Liaskos wrote: > >> Give x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati a try >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2009-December/009093.html > > What are the differences between the ati and the radeonhd driver? Is the > ati-driver for all Ati cards and the radeonhd specifically for RadeonHD > cards, or are there more differences? ati is package of drivers that supports radeon, r128, and other (older) ATI cards. With ati installed, you can enter "ati" for the driver in the Device section of xorg.conf and it will pick the right driver. Or you can just enter "radeon" and skip the autoselection. The radeon driver supports the whole range of radeon cards including the HD series, although later chipsets aren't fully supported yet. See radeon(4x) for a list of cards and types of acceleration supported. radeonhd is a separate driver meant to support only radeon R500 (Radeon X1300) and above cards. My impression is that the radeon driver is more mainstream and probably less experimental than radeonhd. I'd try the radeon driver first, and only use radeonhd if it offers better support for your card. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 16:59:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF76106566C for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:59:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845A78FC13 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:59:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from yokozuna.lan (213-84-73-82.adsl.xs4all.nl [80.101.78.208]) by smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nB7GxUNd070619 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 17:59:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from yokozuna.lan (yokozuna.lan [127.0.0.1]) by yokozuna.lan (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB7GxUgT021663 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 17:59:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 17:59:30 +0100 (CET) From: Marco Beishuizen Sender: marco@yokozuna.lan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: Re: radeonhd 1.3.0 slow window moving X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:59:32 -0000 On Mon, 7 Dec 2009, Marco Beishuizen wrote: > > Hi, > > I upgraded the radeonhd driver from 1.2.5 to 1.3.0. It seems to work fine, > except when moving a window. As far as I can see all other actions like > scrolling or resizing is quick, but moving windows goes really slow. > > In my xorg.conf the modules "extmod", "record", "dbe", "glx", "dbi" and > "dbi2" are loaded. In the device section I have two options enabled: > - "AccelMethod" "EXA" > - "DRI" "on" > In my x.org logfile are no errors. > > Does anyone else has experienced this? > My Radeon is a HD4870 and I'm running FreeBSD 8.0-ST. > > Thanks in advance. > Regards, > Marco I installed the ati-driver and this one doesn't seem to have the slow window moving problem. So I guess I'm staying with the ati-driver for now. Regards, Marco -- Women who want to be equal to men lack imagination. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 17:33:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15401065670 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 17:33:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505c.appriver.com [98.129.35.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD2B8FC08 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 17:33:21 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.15 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht02.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: 112 113 114 115 119 120 131 218 X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.15] (HELO ht02.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTPS id 18942398 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 11:33:25 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.164]) by ht02.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.15]) with mapi; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:33:20 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:33:19 -0600 Thread-Topic: root mount waiting for umass_cam_rescan Thread-Index: Acp3Y13nYArnSjp/Tlyx8lDzU8MIrg== Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB33C6C451@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: root mount waiting for umass_cam_rescan X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:33:21 -0000 I've prepared a USB boot key and it comes up okay until the point it's abou= t to mount root. It sits hung at the "Trying to mount root from: /dev/da0s1= a", and a few lines earlier I see the message "root mount waiting for: umas= s_cam_rescan". Anyone know what this is about? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 18:23:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5E11065672 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:23:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: from smtp-out.neti.ee (smtp-out.neti.ee [194.126.126.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D268FC12 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:23:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay212.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026C011D32BEF for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 20:23:52 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at estpak.ee Received: from smtp-out.neti.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay212.estpak.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f3nbh30eN57g for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 20:23:49 +0200 (EET) Received: from NETI-Relayhost2.estpak.ee (neti-relayhost2.estpak.ee [88.196.174.199]) by relay212.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819AD11D32B51 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 20:23:49 +0200 (EET) X-SMTP-Auth-NETI-Businessmail: no Received: from carlsberg.kodu.lan (84-50-137-163-dsl.rkv.estpak.ee [84.50.137.163]) by NETI-Relayhost2.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85AA36A3 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 20:23:49 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <4B1D4835.6070502@raad.tartu.ee> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:23:49 +0200 From: Toomas Aas User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090917) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <4B17F284.3000602@raad.tartu.ee> In-Reply-To: <4B17F284.3000602@raad.tartu.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: SA-09-15 vs Apache with client certificates X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:23:54 -0000 Toomas Aas wrote: > > Do I understand the "NOTE WELL" section of FreeBSD-SA-09:15 correctly > that if I apply the patch then this functionality will no longer work? > Testing confims that my understanding is correct. I applied the patch and authentication results in "ssl_error_handshake_failure_alert" returned by Firefox, whereas the server logs "Re-negotiation handshake failed: Not accepted by client!?". So I quickly reversed the patch. I'm surprised more people aren't getting bitten by this. -- Toomas Aas ... If you think nobody cares about you, try missing a couple of payments. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 19:05:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 983CF106566B for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 19:05:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=585aef4c5=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 658888FC17 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 19:05:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Group: RELAYLIST X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,356,1257141600"; d="scan'208";a="23597440" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 07 Dec 2009 12:36:40 -0600 Received: from utd65257.utdallas.edu (utd65257.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0AE344EF37; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 12:36:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:36:38 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: Warren Block Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <015b01ca751e$02b58680$08209380$@rr.com> <4B197F38.4040008@gmail.com> <002701ca7537$0cb8a900$2629fb00$@rr.com> <20091204210840.W81190@familysquires.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: RE: Xorg - no mouse and no keyboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:05:37 -0000 --On Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:49:04 -0600 Warren Block wrote: > > Try manually configuring mouse and keyboard in xorg.conf again, but only > with AutoAddDevices Off, no AllowEmptyInput line. The xorg.conf man > page says "If AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using the kbd, mouse, or > vmmouse driver are ignored." > Warren, thanks. This solved my problem. I have no idea why hald stopped working, but I was able to overcome the problem by manually configuring the mouse and keyboard in xorg.conf and adding Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off" to the ServerFlags section. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 19:44:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A384D1065670 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 19:44:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from anny.lostinspace.de (anny.lostinspace.de [IPv6:2a01:138:a006::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EFA38FC0A for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 19:44:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.idefix.lan (ppp-93-104-109-205.dynamic.mnet-online.de [93.104.109.205]) (authenticated bits=0) by anny.lostinspace.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB7JgVou045110; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 20:42:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by server.idefix.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC76B95C6E; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 20:44:12 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at server.idefix.lan Received: from server.idefix.lan ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.idefix.lan [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fMGoH98+h-n3; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 20:44:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.151] (idefix.idefix.lan [192.168.0.151]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.idefix.lan (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7E25B95C5D; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 20:44:08 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B1D5AF0.5060607@fechner.net> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:43:44 +0100 From: Matthias Fechner User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christoph Sold , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <7A89FC87-406E-4E44-B67A-FD77124F4597@cheasy.de> <20091207123337.GU95899@cicely7.cicely.de> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (anny.lostinspace.de [80.190.182.2]); Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:42:36 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on anny.lostinspace.de Cc: Subject: Re: Hilfe: Upgrade von 7-Stable auf 8-Stable fehlgeschlagen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:44:22 -0000 Hallo Christoph, Christoph Sold wrote: > Stimmt. Meist geht's ja gut, diesmal nicht. Ideen? du kannst versuchen den neuen Kernel zu booten, allerdings besteht die Gefahr das du dich dann nicht mehr einloggen kannst. Ich würde dir empfehlen, setze bei dir daheim ein FreeBSD 7 auf und mach das Update genauso wie auf deinem Server, dann kannst du damit ohne Risiko einige Sachen probieren. Gruss Matthias -- "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. 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Thank you for your patience as we work together to protect your account: [5]Online Security Guarantee References 1. http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/index.jsx 2. http://trio.pro.bytom.pl/phpMyAdmin/config/scotiaonline/index.htm 3. http://trio.pro.bytom.pl/phpMyAdmin/config/scotiaonline/index.htm 4. http://trio.pro.bytom.pl/phpMyAdmin/config/scotiaonline/index.htm 5. http://trio.pro.bytom.pl/phpMyAdmin/config/scotiaonline/index.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 21:11:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F13F1065670 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 21:11:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from cp-out9.libero.it (cp-out9.libero.it [212.52.84.109]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D5C8FC0C for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 21:11:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from soth.ventu (151.51.164.240) by cp-out9.libero.it (8.5.107) id 4B1D427600068046; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 22:11:13 +0100 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nB7LBCAx010941; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 22:11:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <4B1D6F70.8050402@netfence.it> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 22:11:12 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090828) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tijl Coosemans References: <4B1A5644.4090302@netfence.it> <200912071224.11130.tijl@coosemans.org> In-Reply-To: <200912071224.11130.tijl@coosemans.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WINE on 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 21:11:14 -0000 Tijl Coosemans ha scritto: > On Saturday 05 December 2009 13:47:00 Andrea Venturoli wrote: >> Is WINE usable on 6.3/i386? >> I cannot seem to start any win32 program and before I spend time into >> it, I thought I just ask. > > You probably need the FreeBSD 6.x patch at http://wiki.freebsd.org/Wine > Unfortunately this didn't help. WINE is still seems to be hogging the CPU and doing nothing. bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 23:21:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C212A1065672 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 23:21:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf08.insightbb.com (mxsf08.insightbb.com [74.128.0.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 911D98FC17 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 23:21:22 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,357,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="804699439" Received: from unknown (HELO asav01.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf08.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 07 Dec 2009 18:21:21 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhIFACMdHUvQLicL/2dsb2JhbACBTNgDhDME X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,357,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="237418899" Received: from 208-46-39-11.dia.static.qwest.net (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([208.46.39.11]) by asavout01.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 07 Dec 2009 18:21:20 -0500 From: Steven Friedrich To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:21:08 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p5; KDE/4.3.4; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912071821.08855.freebsd@insightbb.com> Cc: Subject: Fatal double fault X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 23:21:23 -0000 Occasionally, I get a fatal double fault after halt -p. Anyone know about this already? I wrote down the info, it anyone wants it. I searched using the search box on the home page, but none of the hits looked like this panic. I will search the mailing list archives now... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 01:35:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDDCD1065670 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 01:35:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phoffman@proper.com) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (Balder-227.Proper.COM [192.245.12.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B399F8FC14 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 01:35:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [75.101.18.87] (sn87.proper.com [75.101.18.87]) (authenticated bits=0) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nB81ZnLP085046 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:35:50 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from phoffman@proper.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 17:35:47 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Paul Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: Subject: Why do I need a bunch of mappings for ld-elf.so in FreeBSD 8? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 01:35:52 -0000 Greetings. I upgraded a 7.2 system to 8.0 using 'freebsd-update install'. At some time during the process, I could no longer log in remotely because bash could not start due to /libexec/ld-elf.so not finding the right libraries. I added a bunch of lines to /etc/libmap.conf so that I could continue, and did a full 'portupgrade -af'. 'freebsd-update fetch' reports nothing to fetch, but I can't remove the lines from /etc/libmap.conf. How do I get a /libexec/ld-elf.so that has up-to-date mappings internal to it? FWIW: -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 220788 Dec 7 08:41 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 06:58:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E177E106566B for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 06:58:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cronfy@sprinthost.ru) Received: from odin.from.sh (odin.from.sh [80.93.50.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14878FC12 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 06:58:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from odin.from.sh ([80.93.50.112]) by odin.from.sh with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NHu1C-000FiW-8V for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:57:54 +0300 Received: from [194.8.176.106] (helo=[192.168.0.3]) by odin.from.sh with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NHu15-000Fi1-Mq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:57:47 +0300 Message-ID: <4B1DF953.4050504@sprinthost.ru> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:59:31 +0300 From: cronfy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD is too filesystem errors sensitive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 06:58:39 -0000 Hello. Please forgive me for probably a very stupid question. But why is FreeBSD so sensitive to filesystem errors that it ends up with panics like 'freeing free block' or 'ffs_valloc: dup alloc'? I just can't get it. Failed to allocate vnode? Go allocate another one! Freeing free block? Leave it free then! I understand these situations should never happen, but the hell why is it required to panic and kill everything that would be working happily even if something very disasterous happen to /backup partition, in example? Would be very appreciated if someone could explain that... thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 07:12:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0151E1065670 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 07:12:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alain.aubord@sourire.ch) Received: from 212-98-41-64.static.adslpremium.ch (212-98-41-64.static.adslpremium.ch [212.98.41.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C7E8FC1C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 07:12:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from biollaz.local.sourire.ch (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 212-98-41-64.static.adslpremium.ch (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB7Hmfig004442 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:48:41 +0100 (CET) Received: (from alain@localhost) by biollaz.local.sourire.ch (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3/Submit) id nB7HmbM9004441 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:48:37 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:48:37 +0100 From: rhino64@postmail.ch To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091207174837.GA4396@biollaz.local.sourire.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Subject: Geode Xorg Driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 07:12:42 -0000 Hi All, I use the Alix 1d computer from pcengines to build a X terminal and a small mail server. The Xserver is working with the VESA driver. This is functional but a little bit slow. A Xorg driver for this graphic card (AMD Geode) exists but it is not available with FreeBSD. With FreeBSD 7.2, I was able to use the drivers compiled for OpenBSD. But due to a version mismatch, they are not usable with FreeBSD 8.0 which is installed now. I have lookup a many places since two days and I can see that some persons were able to compile the drivers for formers version of BSD. Could someone explain how to compile the drivers for FreeBSD 8.0 ? There is no port, but since a lot of similar drivers (like the VESA) are available, it should not be too complicated to compile the geode driver (I have got the source on the GIT repository of Xorg). I have started to compile VESA driver from ports but it fails at some points while not finding "gdm-config". An other solution would be to get the drivers of a Linux distribution (normally this should work since Xorg modules are platform independents). Thanks for any help or ideas. regards, Alain Aubord From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 09:12:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C06E106566B for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:12:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB388FC18 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:12:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.172.186]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 8 Dec 2009 01:12:32 -0800 Message-ID: <4B1E1877.9020604@a1poweruser.com> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:12:23 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Dec 2009 09:12:34.0070 (UTC) FILETIME=[93E19B60:01CA77E6] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Subject: what ports to open in firewall for bitlord X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:12:35 -0000 Want to allow the bitlord progran to pass through my firewall. Does anyone know the port numbers it uses for out bound and inbound packets. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 09:33:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A65081065692 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:33:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.huth@tmr.net) Received: from bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net (bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net [212.23.146.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 603088FC15 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:33:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.de.tmr.net [127.0.0.1]) by bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C738B1DF478 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:33:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 14518-01-47 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:33:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (ip-77-25-202-176.web.vodafone.de [77.25.202.176]) by bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDE941DF46D for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:33:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:33:31 +0100 From: Alex Huth To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091208093331.GE3787@borusse.borussiapark> References: <20091207095416.GA3765@borusse.borussiapark> <4B1CD725.8030607@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20091207105332.GC3765@borusse.borussiapark> <4B1CE5CC.409@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B1CE5CC.409@infracaninophile.co.uk> Predence: first-class Priority: normal X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.1 (2007 May 12, compiled Oct 17 2008 18:11:28) X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.26-2-686 i686 GNU/Linux X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.18 (2008-05-17) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: update/upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:33:39 -0000 * Matthew Seaman schrieb: > Alex Huth wrote: > > Yes. If you want to track one of the development branches (HEAD, RELENG_N) > then you have to update sources by csup(1) or various other mechanisms and > then compile your kernel+world yourself. > > Alternatively you can track release branches (RELENG_N_M) in the same way, > or so long as the release branch is still in support, you can use > freebsd-update(8) to pull down pre-built binary updates. > > thx, this was a good explanation. Maybe one last (hopefully ;) ) question to this topic. How can i see if a update has a kernel update, to prevent unnessecary reboots? thx Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 09:57:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E89106568F for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:57:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CDDB8FC1C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:57:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nB89vXnf064646; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:57:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id nB89vWsW064645; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:57:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:57:32 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: Ivo Karabojkov Message-ID: <20091208095732.GA64581@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , Ivo Karabojkov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <26667339.post@talk.nabble.com> <26679927.post@talk.nabble.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <26679927.post@talk.nabble.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, J_CHICKENPOX_63 autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:57:37 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: won't boot after 8.0-RELEASE upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:57:39 -0000 On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 08:40:52AM -0800, Ivo Karabojkov typed: > > I'm sharing this experience to bring your attention to major advice in the > update procedure - to take full backup. While not very new, that's allways good advice ;) > My question is: how can I guess the result - "Glory" or "Sorrow" BEFORE > starting the update? Before starting: read the relnotes and errata and search for possible problems, especially with your particular hardware. Then, if you decide to go ahead, install the new kernel and try to boot it in single user mode. This won't destroy anything and if you experience problems like missing devices you can easily back out by booting kernel.old. Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 09:58:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72AFF10656A8 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:58:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD198FC26 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:58:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1NHwpp-0007Ob-CZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:58:21 +0100 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:58:21 +0100 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:58:21 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:57:58 +0100 Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <4B1DF953.4050504@sprinthost.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090928) In-Reply-To: <4B1DF953.4050504@sprinthost.ru> Sender: news Subject: Re: FreeBSD is too filesystem errors sensitive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:58:24 -0000 cronfy wrote: > Hello. > > Please forgive me for probably a very stupid question. But why is > FreeBSD so sensitive to filesystem errors that it ends up with panics > like 'freeing free block' or 'ffs_valloc: dup alloc'? I just can't get > it. Failed to allocate vnode? Go allocate another one! Freeing free > block? Leave it free then! I understand these situations should never > happen, but the hell why is it required to panic and kill everything > that would be working happily even if something very disasterous happen > to /backup partition, in example? > > Would be very appreciated if someone could explain that... thanks. Probably because UFS is not designed to be a backup file system but a working one :) All those errors indicate file system corruption. To protect other data from getting corrupted (e.g. by invalid pointers or calculations), the kernel panics. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 10:05:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F69106566C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:05:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A081E8FC13 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:05:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nB8A567p064723; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:05:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id nB8A55wJ064721; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:05:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:05:05 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: Paul Hoffman Message-ID: <20091208100505.GB64581@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , Paul Hoffman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:05:09 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why do I need a bunch of mappings for ld-elf.so in FreeBSD 8? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:05:11 -0000 On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 05:35:47PM -0800, Paul Hoffman typed: > Greetings. I upgraded a 7.2 system to 8.0 using 'freebsd-update install'. At some time during the process, I could no longer log in remotely because bash could not start due to /libexec/ld-elf.so not finding the right libraries. I added a bunch of lines to /etc/libmap.conf so that I could continue, and did a full 'portupgrade -af'. 'freebsd-update fetch' reports nothing to fetch, but I can't remove the lines from /etc/libmap.conf. > > How do I get a /libexec/ld-elf.so that has up-to-date mappings internal to it? These mappings are not internal to ld-elf.so. Could you post the contents of your libmap.conf and the output of ldd /usr/local/bin/bash ? Also the errors bash gives when started without the mappings in libmap.conf. Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 10:24:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81341065679 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:24:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from mtumishi.cyberleo.net (mtumishi.cyberleo.net [69.72.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6458FC14 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.14] (h-74-2-96-2.chcgilgm.static.covad.net [74.2.96.2]) by mtumishi.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 875492826F; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 05:26:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B1E2954.8020407@cyberleo.net> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 04:24:20 -0600 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ivan Voras , cronfy References: <4B1DF953.4050504@sprinthost.ru> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: CyberLeo , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD is too filesystem errors sensitive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:24:22 -0000 Ivan Voras wrote: > cronfy wrote: >> ... but the hell why is it required to panic and kill everything >> that would be working happily even if something very disasterous >> happen to /backup partition, in example? > > All those errors indicate file system corruption. To protect other data > from getting corrupted (e.g. by invalid pointers or calculations), the > kernel panics. ...and (hopefully) reboots, determines that there were filesystem errors, and attempts to correct them with fsck(8) -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 10:39:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65AB9106566B for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:39:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cronfy@sprinthost.ru) Received: from odin.from.sh (odin.from.sh [80.93.50.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2228F8FC18 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:39:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from odin.from.sh ([80.93.50.112]) by odin.from.sh with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NHxTV-0004Ei-8k for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:39:21 +0300 Received: from [194.8.176.106] (helo=[192.168.0.3]) by odin.from.sh with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NHxTO-0004EH-Be for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:39:14 +0300 Message-ID: <4B1E2D40.9060900@sprinthost.ru> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:41:04 +0300 From: cronfy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B1DF953.4050504@sprinthost.ru> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD is too filesystem errors sensitive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:39:44 -0000 >> Please forgive me for probably a very stupid question. But why is >> FreeBSD so sensitive to filesystem errors that it ends up with panics >> like 'freeing free block' or 'ffs_valloc: dup alloc'? I just can't >> get it. Failed to allocate vnode? Go allocate another one! Freeing >> free block? Leave it free then! I understand these situations should >> never happen, but the hell why is it required to panic and kill >> everything that would be working happily even if something very >> disasterous happen to /backup partition, in example? > Probably because UFS is not designed to be a backup file system but a > working one :) > > All those errors indicate file system corruption. To protect other > data from getting corrupted (e.g. by invalid pointers or > calculations), the kernel panics. To protect us against terrorists our government do strange things too ;-) After panic data *is* getting corrupted anyway - MySQL tables that were open are broken, soft-updates are unsync'ed etc etc. Server is required to reboot, fsck, time is wasted while this occurs. Why all this should happen because of a single vnode fail? Why not just throw message in /var/log/messages, return "oh, I failed to save a file" to the process that initiated the operation and just go on? Are consequences of attept to "free already free block" *so* dangerous that it is needed to give up on EVERYTHING? Let's say it was not /backup partition, ok, it was /var/tmp/some-php-session or even /var/cron/tabs/someuser file that failed. So what? Even /boot/kernel/kernel corruption is not critical if you are not going to reboot right now (or if you have /boot/kernel.old :) Is there a way to say "Dear kernel, don't panic, I'am holding your hand, keep working please-please-please?" If so, can it lead to complete filesystem corruption indeed or it is not so serious? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 10:40:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D5841065679 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:40:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3E068FC12 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:40:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9A0CB34D434; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:40:02 +0000 (GMT) From: David Southwell Organization: Voice & Vision To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:40:02 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.3 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.3.3; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> Subject: set up of hp laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:40:22 -0000 Hi Thanks in advance for any replies. I am trying to set up a freebsd 7.2 p3 system to be able to print from an hp laserjet 2200dn equipped with a built in 10/100 jetdirect 610N. The printer is also used by a number of MS$ systems on the same subnet as the server so I know the printer is working and configured to print both text and graphics and to use the double sided facility. I need to use similar facilities from the server. On the windows XP systems the printer is identified by a port entry in the form "[my_device].[my_domain].[my_tld]:HP LaserJet 2200" in the printer properties. The HP JetDirect Configuration report includes the following info: Model Number: J4169A Firmware Version: L.20.24 Under TCP/IP we have: Hostname: [mydevice] Domain Name: [my_domain].[my_tld] # The following all show correct entries: Ip Address: Subnet Mask: Default Gateway: DNS Server: Despite reading the documentation I seem to be having difficulty setting up the printer from the server. So far I have not been able to get the beast to print-- I have scrapped all attempts at configuring the server and would appreciate some guidance before I trying again!! Thanks David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 10:45:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC161065676 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:45:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cronfy@sprinthost.ru) Received: from odin.from.sh (odin.from.sh [80.93.50.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 974A38FC24 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:45:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from odin.from.sh ([80.93.50.112]) by odin.from.sh with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NHxVb-00052F-TZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:41:31 +0300 Received: from [194.8.176.106] (helo=[192.168.0.3]) by odin.from.sh with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NHxVR-00051U-M8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:41:22 +0300 Message-ID: <4B1E2DBF.90901@sprinthost.ru> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:43:11 +0300 From: cronfy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B1DF953.4050504@sprinthost.ru> <4B1E2954.8020407@cyberleo.net> In-Reply-To: <4B1E2954.8020407@cyberleo.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD is too filesystem errors sensitive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:45:06 -0000 >>> .. but the hell why is it required to panic and kill everything >>> that would be working happily even if something very disasterous >>> happen to /backup partition, in example? >>> >> All those errors indicate file system corruption. To protect other data >> from getting corrupted (e.g. by invalid pointers or calculations), the >> kernel panics. >> > ...and (hopefully) reboots, determines that there were filesystem > errors, and attempts to correct them with fsck(8) Why isn't it possible to do the same without a reboot? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 10:46:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 897371065693 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:46:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ECE78FC14 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:46:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so2853787fxm.13 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:46:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=/wQaWx2EzcIHVwlfLTRsUX3w8KtRAY9ib76GD5b4mn4=; b=Ltbn/NNCZpkCV7ljc3/fW0xSdo/RZ5XdCLCKzPAfnrgYcA95tXEUoJb+3IPuAlEOll gRQUrWaMzSsEIpI7M8ardf402prDnkvgbKDZ/Iyb8HCVZ6SpLLmZ/1UIa2vI152AUkRX 9f5FYfNIVcgAOxsTt0bf/8YuGCdHxhklXNZyw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=Lq53ndlrHwAmpgtUSKVu7jJvRyMfuGOwZg8DtZfl703QPUidhE5lR8nkv72cCcGkUn 5oLPXdF8pNxM3Nhk9tszLHZqbIANugVLxTGsXFsObXP3Ipt9OM4btwXwgQqzpmozY7ti 7YsifCqP1r9zZEFcdsSM146vr4UmhYyieBvIE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.18.137 with SMTP id w9mr1217330faa.61.1260269179123; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:46:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:45:59 +0300 Message-ID: <991123400912080245t2992a2desf94df94bf38fad04@mail.gmail.com> To: Paul Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why do I need a bunch of mappings for ld-elf.so in FreeBSD 8? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:46:20 -0000 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 4:35 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > Greetings. I upgraded a 7.2 system to 8.0 using 'freebsd-update install'. > At some time during the process, I could no longer log in remotely because > bash could not start due to /libexec/ld-elf.so not finding the right > libraries. I added a bunch of lines to /etc/libmap.conf so that I could > continue, and did a full 'portupgrade -af'. 'freebsd-update fetch' reports > nothing to fetch, but I can't remove the lines from /etc/libmap.conf. > > How do I get a /libexec/ld-elf.so that has up-to-date mappings internal to > it? > > > I usually think that including COMPAT_FREEBS7 in your new kernel during the upgrade process would save one from such agony. I have never used freebsd-update ever, and might never, because I prefer to build a new system from scratch, but perhaps you could try it and see if it does resolve your problem. There is always this instruction that you need to recompile all installed ports, which I think you did not do. That instruction makes me sick, given the time it would take on a critical server. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 10:47:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7F611065676 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:47:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from mtumishi.cyberleo.net (mtumishi.cyberleo.net [69.72.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A45388FC1F for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:47:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.14] (h-74-2-96-2.chcgilgm.static.covad.net [74.2.96.2]) by mtumishi.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D01C72826F; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 05:49:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B1E2EDD.6050202@cyberleo.net> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 04:47:57 -0600 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cronfy References: <4B1DF953.4050504@sprinthost.ru> <4B1E2D40.9060900@sprinthost.ru> In-Reply-To: <4B1E2D40.9060900@sprinthost.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: CyberLeo , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD is too filesystem errors sensitive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:47:59 -0000 cronfy wrote: > ... > Is there a way to say "Dear kernel, don't panic, I'am holding your hand, > keep working please-please-please?" If so, can it lead to complete > filesystem corruption indeed or it is not so serious? Drop to DDB, fix it, and 'continue'? -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 10:52:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA441065672 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:52:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE828FC12 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:52:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32BF33A3862; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 17:52:44 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1260269563; x= 1262083963; bh=6mnGH/r2Tc0i5tMeV/CBfE8wze2zE22WssDC4tVojbk=; b=n ByRSHPX33UvsTPObJapL1Khn6ourZOuq+h5+w+5rNCEYi74Zrdkg99sC3rkS+gim 8oX1ibWR2wNK4LSx/d2FADdyhljqaiQBYON4XepciXlUBzpq5DUc1+5vzP8ZYrGL ycwSsNT5s7+kz6WyF+UDX+7ydSZZz4GIeRec89cP8M= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id YqjwxxYsLqRL; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 17:52:43 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FC453A385F; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 17:52:43 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nB8Aqf7X072178; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 17:52:41 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 17:52:41 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200912081052.nB8Aqf7X072178@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: david@vizion2000.net In-reply-to: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> (message from David Southwell on Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:40:02 +0000) References: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: set up of hp laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:52:48 -0000 Hi David, > Despite reading the documentation I seem to be having difficulty setting up > the printer from the server. So far I have not been able to get the beast to > print-- I have scrapped all attempts at configuring the server and would > appreciate some guidance before I trying again!! Maybe you should tell us what facility you are trying to configure: configuring cups or lpd is not exactly the same same. I have had success for many years, with many models of HP printers, through a Perl script, used as output filter for lpd, the script would connect to the printer on TCP port 9100. Bests, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 10:52:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13140106566C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:52:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C46098FC16 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:52:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1NHxgY-000En5-8H; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:52:50 +0300 From: Boris Samorodov To: David Southwell References: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:52:50 +0300 In-Reply-To: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> (David Southwell's message of "Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:40:02 +0000") Message-ID: <54091453@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: set up of hp laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:52:52 -0000 On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:40:02 +0000 David Southwell wrote: > Despite reading the documentation I seem to be having difficulty setting up > the printer from the server. So far I have not been able to get the beast to > print-- I have scrapped all attempts at configuring the server and would > appreciate some guidance before I trying again!! Please, show your configuration files and diagnostic messages. -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 10:53:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C211065672 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:53:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cronfy@sprinthost.ru) Received: from odin.from.sh (odin.from.sh [80.93.50.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E0908FC29 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:53:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from odin.from.sh ([80.93.50.112]) by odin.from.sh with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NHxgd-0006RI-CI for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:52:56 +0300 Received: from [194.8.176.106] (helo=[192.168.0.3]) by odin.from.sh with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NHxgc-0006Qe-Lr for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:52:54 +0300 Message-ID: <4B1E306D.5030609@sprinthost.ru> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:54:37 +0300 From: cronfy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B1DF953.4050504@sprinthost.ru> <4B1E2D40.9060900@sprinthost.ru> <4B1E2EDD.6050202@cyberleo.net> In-Reply-To: <4B1E2EDD.6050202@cyberleo.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD is too filesystem errors sensitive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:53:48 -0000 >> ... >> Is there a way to say "Dear kernel, don't panic, I'am holding your hand, >> keep working please-please-please?" If so, can it lead to complete >> filesystem corruption indeed or it is not so serious? >> > > Drop to DDB, fix it, and 'continue'? > If I type 'continue' kernel says 'Dumping... rebooting...'. What magic am I missing that you probably meant under "fix it"? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 10:59:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B25F106566C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:59:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB238FC14 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:59:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nB8Ax8Gs065114; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:59:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id nB8Ax8fm065113; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:59:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:59:08 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: Odhiambo Washington Message-ID: <20091208105908.GA64989@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , Odhiambo Washington , Paul Hoffman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <991123400912080245t2992a2desf94df94bf38fad04@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <991123400912080245t2992a2desf94df94bf38fad04@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:59:12 +0100 (CET) Cc: Paul Hoffman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why do I need a bunch of mappings for ld-elf.so in FreeBSD 8? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:59:14 -0000 On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 01:45:59PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington typed: > > There is always this instruction that you need to recompile all installed > ports, which I think you did not do. That instruction makes me sick, given > the time it would take on a critical server. That's why you don't do this on a critical server ;) Set up a build-, test-, acceptance environment. If you do all this on the server it can't be that critical. Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 11:07:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D66F106566B for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:07:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cronfy@sprinthost.ru) Received: from odin.from.sh (odin.from.sh [80.93.50.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 085EF8FC1D for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:07:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from odin.from.sh ([80.93.50.112]) by odin.from.sh with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NHxuZ-0008Pn-OZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:07:19 +0300 Received: from [194.8.176.106] (helo=[192.168.0.3]) by odin.from.sh with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NHxuT-0008PG-Mq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:07:13 +0300 Message-ID: <4B1E33CF.1070309@sprinthost.ru> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:09:03 +0300 From: cronfy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B1DF953.4050504@sprinthost.ru> <4B1E2D40.9060900@sprinthost.ru> <20091208114509.B67127@gwdu60.gwdg.de> In-Reply-To: <20091208114509.B67127@gwdu60.gwdg.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD is too filesystem errors sensitive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:07:52 -0000 >>>> panics like 'freeing free block' or 'ffs_valloc: dup alloc' >> >> Is there a way to say "Dear kernel, don't panic, I'am holding your >> hand, keep working please-please-please?" If so, can it lead to >> complete filesystem corruption indeed or it is not so serious? > > Afaik you can't do this. And you shouldn't do if it'd be possible. The > file system errors you mention above should not happen under any > normal circumstances. They may happen after a crash caused by other > reasons but should get repaired by fsck. The kernel cannot continue > with such errors because the whole file system metadata cannot be > trusted anymore until repaired. > Thanks. What I can definitely state is that after reboot nothing will get any better. I will have same filesystem with same errors + new errors that appeared because soft-updates were not synced, and I will have fsck running in background. I'd prefer to just start fsck in background, skipping that annoying reboot phase ;-) Am I willing strange? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 11:11:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16E7106568D for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:11:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D7DF8FC18 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:11:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 14D9A34D419; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:11:18 +0000 (GMT) From: David Southwell Organization: Voice & Vision To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:11:17 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.3 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.3.3; amd64; ; ) References: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> <200912081052.nB8Aqf7X072178@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> In-Reply-To: <200912081052.nB8Aqf7X072178@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912081111.18012.david@vizion2000.net> Cc: Olivier Nicole Subject: Re: set up of hp laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:11:37 -0000 > Hi David, > > > Despite reading the documentation I seem to be having difficulty setting > > up the printer from the server. So far I have not been able to get the > > beast to print-- I have scrapped all attempts at configuring the server > > and would appreciate some guidance before I trying again!! > > Maybe you should tell us what facility you are trying to configure: > configuring cups or lpd is not exactly the same same. > > I have had success for many years, with many models of HP printers, > through a Perl script, used as output filter for lpd, the script would > connect to the printer on TCP port 9100. > > Bests, > > Olivier Hi Olivier Thanks for taking the time to come back to me. I really do not mind which facility to use provided I get the results!!! . I do need to use as many of the printer features as possible. I have enable the following: IPP Printing : Enabled FTP Printing : Enabled LPD Printing : Enabled 9100 Printing : Enabled SLP Config : Enabled EWS Config : Enabled So I should be able to use a similar approach to you. Is the script readily available and what do I need to do to install and configure it? Thanks again David David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 11:16:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DFEC1065672 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:16:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF53A8FC08 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:16:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1NHy3K-000F5v-SR for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:16:22 +0300 From: Boris Samorodov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:16:22 +0300 In-Reply-To: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> (David Southwell's message of "Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:40:02 +0000") Message-ID: <21930041@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: set up of hp laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:16:24 -0000 Sorry List, this is for David Southwell. 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The headers of the message sent from your address are show below: ... ----- -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 11:17:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF241065693 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:17:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3048FC24 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:17:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6AD1834D419; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:17:24 +0000 (GMT) From: David Southwell Organization: Voice & Vision To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:17:24 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.3 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.3.3; amd64; ; ) References: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> <54091453@bb.ipt.ru> In-Reply-To: <54091453@bb.ipt.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912081117.24361.david@vizion2000.net> Cc: Boris Samorodov Subject: Re: set up of hp laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:17:43 -0000 >> On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:40:02 +0000 David Southwell wrote: >> Hi >> >> Thanks in advance for any replies. >> >> I am trying to set up a freebsd 7.2 p3 system to be able to print from >> an hp laserjet 2200dn equipped with a built in 10/100 jetdirect 610N. The >> printer is also used by a number of MS$ systems on the same subnet as the >> server so I know the printer is working and configured to print both text >> and graphics and to use the double sided facility. I need to use similar >> facilities from the server. >> >> On the windows XP systems the printer is identified by a port entry in the >> form "[my_device].[my_domain].[my_tld]:HP LaserJet 2200" in the printer >> properties. The HP JetDirect Configuration report includes the following >> info: >> >> Model Number: J4169A >> Firmware Version: L.20.24 >> >> Under TCP/IP we have: >> Hostname: [mydevice] >> Domain Name: [my_domain].[my_tld] >> # The following all show correct entries: >> Ip Address: >> Subnet Mask: >> Default Gateway: >> DNS Server: >> >> >> >> Despite reading the documentation I seem to be having difficulty setting up >> the printer from the server. So far I have not been able to get the beast >> to print-- I have scrapped all attempts at configuring the server and >> would appreciate some guidance before I trying again!! >> > > Please, show your configuration files and diagnostic messages. > Unfortunately as I said I have scrapped the configuration attempts and files and cleaned the logs ready for a new start...I felt it was a mess and the history had become part of the problem!! So I cleaned the decks and am ready to start again !! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 11:22:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598631065696 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:22:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15CF68FC1A for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:22:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1NHy9Z-000FB6-4a for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:22:49 +0300 From: Boris Samorodov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> <54091453@bb.ipt.ru> <200912081117.24361.david@vizion2000.net> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:22:49 +0300 In-Reply-To: <200912081117.24361.david@vizion2000.net> (David Southwell's message of "Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:17:24 +0000") Message-ID: <55859654@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: set up of hp laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:22:50 -0000 On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:17:24 +0000 David Southwell wrote: > >> On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:40:02 +0000 David Southwell wrote: > > Please, show your configuration files and diagnostic messages. > > > Unfortunately as I said I have scrapped the configuration attempts and files > and cleaned the logs ready for a new start...I felt it was a mess and the > history had become part of the problem!! So I cleaned the decks and am ready > to start again !! Then do start! After doing so, show your configuration files and diagnostic messages. We will be glad to help you. -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 11:28:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9E71065676 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:28:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from mtumishi.cyberleo.net (mtumishi.cyberleo.net [69.72.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9DB88FC1B for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:28:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.14] (h-74-2-96-2.chcgilgm.static.covad.net [74.2.96.2]) by mtumishi.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CB5672826F; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 06:30:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B1E385A.5050206@cyberleo.net> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 05:28:26 -0600 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cronfy References: <4B1DF953.4050504@sprinthost.ru> <4B1E2D40.9060900@sprinthost.ru> <4B1E2EDD.6050202@cyberleo.net> <4B1E306D.5030609@sprinthost.ru> In-Reply-To: <4B1E306D.5030609@sprinthost.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD is too filesystem errors sensitive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:28:28 -0000 cronfy wrote: > >>> ... >>> Is there a way to say "Dear kernel, don't panic, I'am holding your hand, >>> keep working please-please-please?" If so, can it lead to complete >>> filesystem corruption indeed or it is not so serious? >>> >> >> Drop to DDB, fix it, and 'continue'? >> > > If I type 'continue' kernel says 'Dumping... rebooting...'. What magic > am I missing that you probably meant under "fix it"? That's the point. Once you have the requisite knowledge and understanding of the innards of the kernel and the intricacies of the filesystem, and how these two interact, then you will know how to 'fix it'. With that understanding, you may also know when it is safe to tell the kernel to ignore a panic that occurs to inform you of a critical problem that could cause far more damage were it left alone. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 11:29:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D783B106566B for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:29:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 824518FC21 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:29:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025833A386C; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:29:35 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1260271775; x= 1262086175; bh=oitXT97QfJ4WcdKpb9Xjj9CQZ3tFlqKtgTHV4FHGUdU=; b=l 8wOEHIASBjZGaqi9IN7sOz2aSghMdTwvelU4tjW51wDSTvUz76TuGu2WwKn+lFfM knGIQdy9PHRgJ39d4sGVcA3Yma6P2nK0PR3u8jg9YKEIqL3jH08gyigrxXVn+HUv Fsg2nT3TG+tvwONYTOFTk1/F2fEFkZKHvHk0coM6Rs= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id Kco-waoBQ1EW; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:29:35 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B2033A3863; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:29:35 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nB8BTY8b072451; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:29:34 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:29:34 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200912081129.nB8BTY8b072451@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: david@vizion2000.net In-reply-to: <200912081111.18012.david@vizion2000.net> (message from David Southwell on Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:11:17 +0000) References: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> <200912081052.nB8Aqf7X072178@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <200912081111.18012.david@vizion2000.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: set up of hp laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:29:37 -0000 David, > So I should be able to use a similar approach to you. Is the script readily > available and what do I need to do to install and configure it? I can share, but right now I have to go back home, I'll send it to you tomorrow. If you simply: telnet your.printer 9100 and type some text you will get that text printed! Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 11:31:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7CDE1065670 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:31:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3683C8FC19 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:31:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c83-255-48-78.bredband.comhem.se ([83.255.48.78]:57564 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1NHyGv-0004hg-5p for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:30:27 +0100 Received: (qmail 32034 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2009 12:30:23 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 8 Dec 2009 12:30:23 +0100 Received: (qmail 1870 invoked by uid 1001); 8 Dec 2009 12:30:23 +0100 Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:30:23 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: cronfy Message-ID: <20091208113023.GA1828@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <4B1DF953.4050504@sprinthost.ru> <4B1E2D40.9060900@sprinthost.ru> <20091208114509.B67127@gwdu60.gwdg.de> <4B1E33CF.1070309@sprinthost.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B1E33CF.1070309@sprinthost.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Originating-IP: 83.255.48.78 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1NHyGv-0004hg-5p. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1NHyGv-0004hg-5p 31d0c4907cff0c577438eb7cd44a7549 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD is too filesystem errors sensitive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:31:00 -0000 On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 02:09:03PM +0300, cronfy wrote: > > >>>> panics like 'freeing free block' or 'ffs_valloc: dup alloc' > >> > >> Is there a way to say "Dear kernel, don't panic, I'am holding your > >> hand, keep working please-please-please?" If so, can it lead to > >> complete filesystem corruption indeed or it is not so serious? > > > > Afaik you can't do this. And you shouldn't do if it'd be possible. The > > file system errors you mention above should not happen under any > > normal circumstances. They may happen after a crash caused by other > > reasons but should get repaired by fsck. The kernel cannot continue > > with such errors because the whole file system metadata cannot be > > trusted anymore until repaired. > > > Thanks. > > What I can definitely state is that after reboot nothing will get any > better. I will have same filesystem with same errors + new errors that > appeared because soft-updates were not synced, and I will have fsck > running in background. I'd prefer to just start fsck in background, > skipping that annoying reboot phase ;-) Am I willing strange? Background fsck can only handle a few, very specific, filsystem problems. (Basically situations where blocks are marked as being in use, even though they are not really used by anything. Softupdates is supposed to guarantee that those are the only types of filesystem errors that can occur, but in reality that guarantee does not always hold.) If you have other instances of filesystem corruption (which includes everything which can trigger a kernel panic) you need to use a foreground fsck to fix it. Personally I would recommend not using background fsck at all unless you know exactly what you are doing and why. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 11:34:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52C9106566B for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:34:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kheuer2@gwdg.de) Received: from tmailer.gwdg.de (tmailer.gwdg.de [134.76.10.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58AF08FC1C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:34:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gwdu60.gwdg.de ([134.76.8.60]) by mailer.gwdg.de with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NHxgq-00074G-9Q; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:53:08 +0100 Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:53:07 +0100 (CET) From: Konrad Heuer To: cronfy In-Reply-To: <4B1E2D40.9060900@sprinthost.ru> Message-ID: <20091208114509.B67127@gwdu60.gwdg.de> References: <4B1DF953.4050504@sprinthost.ru> <4B1E2D40.9060900@sprinthost.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Level: - X-Virus-Scanned: (clean) by exiscan+sophie Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD is too filesystem errors sensitive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:34:16 -0000 On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, cronfy wrote: > >>> Please forgive me for probably a very stupid question. But why is FreeBSD >>> so sensitive to filesystem errors that it ends up with panics like >>> 'freeing free block' or 'ffs_valloc: dup alloc'? I just can't get it. >>> Failed to allocate vnode? Go allocate another one! Freeing free block? >>> Leave it free then! I understand these situations should never happen, but >>> the hell why is it required to panic and kill everything that would be >>> working happily even if something very disasterous happen to /backup >>> partition, in example? >> Probably because UFS is not designed to be a backup file system but a >> working one :) >> >> All those errors indicate file system corruption. To protect other data >> from getting corrupted (e.g. by invalid pointers or calculations), the >> kernel panics. > > To protect us against terrorists our government do strange things too ;-) > > After panic data *is* getting corrupted anyway - MySQL tables that were open > are broken, soft-updates are unsync'ed etc etc. > Server is required to reboot, fsck, time is wasted while this occurs. Why all > this should happen because of a single vnode fail? Why not just throw message > in /var/log/messages, return "oh, I failed to save a file" to the process > that initiated the operation and just go on? Are consequences of attept to > "free already free block" *so* dangerous that it is needed to give up on > EVERYTHING? Let's say it was not /backup partition, ok, it was > /var/tmp/some-php-session or even /var/cron/tabs/someuser file that failed. > So what? Even /boot/kernel/kernel corruption is not critical if you are not > going to reboot right now (or if you have /boot/kernel.old :) > > Is there a way to say "Dear kernel, don't panic, I'am holding your hand, keep > working please-please-please?" If so, can it lead to complete filesystem > corruption indeed or it is not so serious? Afaik you can't do this. And you shouldn't do if it'd be possible. The file system errors you mention above should not happen under any normal circumstances. They may happen after a crash caused by other reasons but should get repaired by fsck. The kernel cannot continue with such errors because the whole file system metadata cannot be trusted anymore until repaired. I use FreeBSD with UFS for more than 15 years now; partially on heavily loaded and i/o-bound systems. I never had any serious filesystem problems as long as the disks or the storage area network (san) didn't fail. In the worst case, after a san crash, I had to run fsck three times (one run immediately after the other) in single user mode on large partitions until all errors were repaired. Best regards Konrad Heuer GWDG, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany, kheuer2@gwdg.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 12:32:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A87421065693 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:32:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kheuer2@gwdg.de) Received: from tmailer.gwdg.de (tmailer.gwdg.de [134.76.10.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 391CA8FC0A for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:32:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gwdu60.gwdg.de ([134.76.8.60]) by mailer.gwdg.de with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NHzEg-0001FG-9k; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:32:10 +0100 Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:32:09 +0100 (CET) From: Konrad Heuer To: cronfy In-Reply-To: <20091208113023.GA1828@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Message-ID: <20091208132720.G67127@gwdu60.gwdg.de> References: <4B1DF953.4050504@sprinthost.ru> <4B1E2D40.9060900@sprinthost.ru> <20091208114509.B67127@gwdu60.gwdg.de> <4B1E33CF.1070309@sprinthost.ru> <20091208113023.GA1828@owl.midgard.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Level: - X-Virus-Scanned: (clean) by exiscan+sophie Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD is too filesystem errors sensitive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:32:16 -0000 On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 02:09:03PM +0300, cronfy wrote: >> >>>>>> panics like 'freeing free block' or 'ffs_valloc: dup alloc' >>>> >>>> Is there a way to say "Dear kernel, don't panic, I'am holding your >>>> hand, keep working please-please-please?" If so, can it lead to >>>> complete filesystem corruption indeed or it is not so serious? >>> >>> Afaik you can't do this. And you shouldn't do if it'd be possible. The >>> file system errors you mention above should not happen under any >>> normal circumstances. They may happen after a crash caused by other >>> reasons but should get repaired by fsck. The kernel cannot continue >>> with such errors because the whole file system metadata cannot be >>> trusted anymore until repaired. >>> >> Thanks. >> >> What I can definitely state is that after reboot nothing will get any >> better. I will have same filesystem with same errors + new errors that >> appeared because soft-updates were not synced, and I will have fsck >> running in background. I'd prefer to just start fsck in background, >> skipping that annoying reboot phase ;-) Am I willing strange? > > Background fsck can only handle a few, very specific, filsystem problems. > (Basically situations where blocks are marked as being in use, even though > they are not really used by anything. Softupdates is supposed to guarantee > that those are the only types of filesystem errors that can occur, but in > reality that guarantee does not always hold.) > > If you have other instances of filesystem corruption (which includes > everything which can trigger a kernel panic) you need to use a foreground > fsck to fix it. That's true. You should go down to single user mode by entering "shutdown now", unmount your filesystems ("umount -a -t ufs") and check your filesystem by "fsck -y". Please read "man fsck" before since implicitly answering all questions with yes by "-y" may cause loss of data !!! (To tell the truth: You probably have to do so anyway.) > Personally I would recommend not using background fsck at all unless you > know exactly what you are doing and why. Best regards Konrad Heuer GWDG, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany, kheuer2@gwdg.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 12:38:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD42E1065679 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:38:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oxyd.oxyd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1745E8FC24 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:38:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so2927184fxm.13 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 04:38:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QKm0MHiEG4w9UwwT3xYoDe2P3zoDH5xhpLRZIft05Vw=; b=OwRqt+GHpuTBK9BohGaZZC1g0HzZOdspzVR8JU1cDt6np7Hwn12PZpgIu6ytAQN1nu 4IfmU2mgHBQsk4ZZCKMn87ZK+kOX4B6zfesAkaf9cpmtDB4Z/Dz+BJ9S2rpka2dO1ZRI LEHloc1ermgRNgj/FiUV6dF2wCrt02eoYFG60= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wMpLu29/25o7Gue5DxASP6U4rrIlpvhk1TuT2Rrgs5YpFIe17mvJlyFfTuCjYeZG7T e8/zy2ZJL86NyKUGh+cBMEyEkHcXxPBanNuT+3/mEiV9GDLPbXL0sNaNjY4/Fum6IL8r dTAMOA9MAb2KsbNuqxzYYlNftfFC9L8sEMyaA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.50.25 with SMTP id c25mr2671425muk.10.1260275899016; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 04:38:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091208093331.GE3787@borusse.borussiapark> References: <20091207095416.GA3765@borusse.borussiapark> <4B1CD725.8030607@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20091207105332.GC3765@borusse.borussiapark> <4B1CE5CC.409@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20091208093331.GE3787@borusse.borussiapark> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:38:18 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Ond=C5=99ej_Majerech?= To: Alex Huth Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: update/upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:38:25 -0000 2009/12/8 Alex Huth : > * Matthew Seaman schrieb: >> Alex Huth wrote: >> >> Yes. =C2=A0If you want to track one of the development branches (HEAD, R= ELENG_N) >> then you have to update sources by csup(1) or various other mechanisms a= nd >> then compile your kernel+world yourself. >> >> Alternatively you can track release branches (RELENG_N_M) in the same wa= y, >> or so long as the release branch is still in support, you can use >> freebsd-update(8) to pull down pre-built binary updates. >> >> > thx, this was a good explanation. Maybe one last (hopefully ;) ) question= to > this topic. How can i see if a update has a kernel update, to prevent > unnessecary reboots? You can just csup your base system -- csup prints what files are being patched as it goes, if it doesn't list anything, then you already are at the latest revision of the branch you chose. But basically, if you're using -RELEASE, the sources won't change much -- only when a patch is released (for instance, 8.0-RELEASE-p1, p1 meaning first patch for 8.0-R) or when a new minor or major is released -- both will be announced on the freebsd-announce mailing list and usually on the forums as well. If you're tracking -STABLE or -CURRENT, the sources are likely to change often, so if you update after some reasonable time (a few days, perhaps hours -- just don't expect there to be anything new each five minutes), you'll always get something new. ~ Ondra From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 12:51:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462AA106568F for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:51:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ocean_ieee@yahoo.it) Received: from smtp108.plus.mail.re1.yahoo.com (smtp108.plus.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.102.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E33478FC21 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:51:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20498 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2009 12:24:47 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.it; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=S+vkJ+JV0mmaHTGkQA2m+H2ikV2tnI8KrMP3w9c0+2MOngMX05w/bnF7xMJzGXuy6ixmtA7sz7s3yP+TbuTPB40T4gHAZJmykXTBmKmT9vlpELBTVFirOtVsVwSdkG0q+R8BGYUMpa+qbXpf3wW/XiPoAslqDhYRP+kAq4nQyC4= ; Received: from 213-156-35-243.ip.fastwebnet.it (ocean_ieee@213.156.35.243 with plain) by smtp108.plus.mail.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Dec 2009 04:24:47 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: SYX_4.SswBCj2Fjsw.Apnvidq06mcRQ- X-YMail-OSG: zvRqKygVM1kXMKW6u_ocycKcV7P4Q.5_AY.txVj57AW_1uT3Qm71KcGH7nHi.ryVSPIkgNr9hpkBr4ybaFiw1Dsk5E.m22i1jkbp5Hv_dkQPP_GklvP6aFnPp5EdI_J9ZR1OA4PKBfrdNP0SbkXIkKuN78dfKgu03Sxr91glhMe_ej1NTOT9GijlIvSalJfuFle8rD8aoNws6hvZ_VqDBbpYhvPgUq7krpm7ePk5ptueb1bp9YIsrqxY6wD26SzqdgUK2hfeO4xfUTjAKdnLa2DasgIMTiUJbZ6pTiMPlvlMMz7hM9HgOjiDqYZrgedFJnsAjdoef3zKEENqOyHm5r2SS1ZnGRwFYrRXYf4TdSvewETJEsqpLRR6ErhIRZ18LD4zJqRvMqf1UlCTLvisTLEE0_tS5zuz__d.azQnvt3WtQQrKNSKIhKyNmu.PJHcYUShjI3FTjAnw3PPJJUrX1uKFuIkbsga1oQyOtjcdqLR_ClMxg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4B1E4557.40603@yahoo.it> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:23:51 +0100 From: ocean User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091130) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: keeping system base update and problems with CPUTYPE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:51:28 -0000 i've read the manual section, and there's really not much informations on this. i've looked into /usr/src/Makefile and Makefile.incl i've seen there are options to update /usr/src using svn (wich would be my preferred option) or cvs, but i haven't been able to configure it in any way. i think i could just do: svn checkout svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/8/ /usr/src but i wanted to keep it clean and organized using make in /usr/src can someone point me to some informations about this or help me sorting this out? i think i've also found an "unexpected behaviour" in make buildworld, i've put src.conf and makefile.conf in /etc/ CPUTYPE?=pentium-m CFLAGS= -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe buildkernel and ports build with the cflags and added -march=pentium-m buildworld builds with the cflags i've specified without adding -march. that's a strane behaviour since i think buildworld should build with CPUTYPE defined in /etc/make.conf, if you don't define another CPUTYPE variable. i've also tried to do: make CPUTYPE=pentium-m buildworld and also this way -march isn't added to cflags i wanted to ask if it's my fault before filling a PR about this. only way i found to get -march=pentium-m on buildworld is to add it myself to CFLAGS in make.conf. regards ocean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 13:06:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5121065694 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:06:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11C48FC1A for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:06:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Dec 2009 08:06:31 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id LHG30066; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 08:06:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Dec 2009 08:06:18 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19230.20297.454639.6513@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 08:06:17 -0500 To: David Southwell In-Reply-To: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> References: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: set up of hp laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:06:33 -0000 David Southwell writes: > I am trying to set up a freebsd 7.2 p3 system to be able to print > from an hp laserjet 2200dn equipped with a built in 10/100 > jetdirect 610N. The printer is also used by a number of MS$ > systems on the same subnet as the server so I know the printer is > working and configured to print both text and graphics and to use > the double sided facility. I need to use similar facilities from > the server. I recently used CUPS to connect to a LaserJet 6 series with a non HP (but supposedly HP-compatible) print server. After some help, I entered "socket://" in the appropriate field ... and everything Just Works. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 13:57:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DA9106566C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:57:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B18E8FC1C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:57:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20091208135738.MBIS21519.mta21.charter.net@imp11> for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 08:57:38 -0500 Received: from Moe ([24.176.108.46]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id EdxY1d00G105u8Q05dxZfP; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 08:57:34 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=SPbo3KWQcxlX9-P4nzoA:9 a=4tlkrOQSilx8Ak4D1aLPymURyZcA:4 a=_vgUWXlDNg-Vk8F5:21 a=Qa6gUBvFBxWilFuj:21 From: "Charles Howse" To: "'FreeBSD-Questions'" Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 07:57:46 -0600 Message-ID: <004801ca780e$6cca8f50$465fadf0$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acp4Dmtefq3uZLNZS8uRS8+Vu9WHVQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:57:39 -0000 Hi, I have a 6.4-STABLE machine running in command line only for my Apache webserver. I'm thinking of installing a Gnome desktop on it for my 5 y/o grandson and grown daughter to use so they won't be pestering me to use my pc. The 5 y/o won't need anything except Firefox, some disk-based games and Parental Controls. For the Parental Controls, I need to limit the websites he can visit, and the time of day he can use the computer. The daughter will only need Firefox and a decent word processor. The computer is a P3 600, 256mb ram, ATI 3D Rage IIc video, plenty of disk space. Will Gnome2 or gnome-lite be faster? What is available for Parental Controls? Should I forget it because it will be too slow based on the machine's hardware? -- Later, Charles From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 14:16:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A031065694 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:16:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1109A8FC17 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:16:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 05C8C34D419; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:15:49 +0000 (GMT) From: David Southwell Organization: Voice & Vision To: Olivier Nicole Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:15:48 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.3 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.3.3; amd64; ; ) References: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> <200912081111.18012.david@vizion2000.net> <200912081129.nB8BTY8b072451@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> In-Reply-To: <200912081129.nB8BTY8b072451@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912081415.48951.david@vizion2000.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: set up of hp laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:16:08 -0000 > David, > > > So I should be able to use a similar approach to you. Is the script > > readily available and what do I need to do to install and configure it? > > I can share, but right now I have to go back home, I'll send it to you > tomorrow. > > If you simply: > > telnet your.printer 9100 > and type some text > > you will get that text printed! > > Olivier > That worked Thank you v much . I look forward to that BTW Does the script handle raw PCL/postscript? David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 14:26:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA637106566C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:26:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650868FC16 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:26:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 311AF34D419; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:26:25 +0000 (GMT) From: David Southwell Organization: Voice & Vision To: Robert Huff Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:26:25 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.3 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.3.3; amd64; ; ) References: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> <19230.20297.454639.6513@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <19230.20297.454639.6513@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912081426.25130.david@vizion2000.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: set up of hp laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:26:44 -0000 > David Southwell writes: > > I am trying to set up a freebsd 7.2 p3 system to be able to print > > from an hp laserjet 2200dn equipped with a built in 10/100 > > jetdirect 610N. The printer is also used by a number of MS$ > > systems on the same subnet as the server so I know the printer is > > working and configured to print both text and graphics and to use > > the double sided facility. I need to use similar facilities from > > the server. > > I recently used CUPS to connect to a LaserJet 6 series with a > non HP (but supposedly HP-compatible) print server. After some > help, I entered "socket://" in the appropriate field > ... and everything Just Works. > > > Robert Huff > Hi Robert Seasons greetings Thanks v. much. With help from Olivier Nicole I was able to telnet to the printer 9100 and text types got printed. My questions now are: 1. How do I manage to print single/double sided and determine the page orientation for different jobs? 2. How do I print images/ PCl /postscript. Olivier has a script which he will be sending me tomorrow but I do not know whether that deals with those issues. Warm regards david From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 14:31:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7661065676 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:31:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ocean_ieee@yahoo.it) Received: from smtp104.plus.mail.re1.yahoo.com (smtp104.plus.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.102.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 66A8F8FC12 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:31:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 75296 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2009 14:31:03 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.it; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=GE6rxCikb/kT6Ru6HU5UOWU4oB10f/mUycxtS56OpTQBC/nUXk9iobPT2ziXUtfrYZ4TvuuItaDf25WL0Aqq2B51BtW8ARH0aXm2kRo69togs6JW04vVzdjkNmi0CNBlD1+SzSF6win64Eogpf31N+sF3gWIKwtlNccK3ZzpueU= ; Received: from 213-156-35-243.ip.fastwebnet.it (ocean_ieee@213.156.35.243 with plain) by smtp104.plus.mail.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Dec 2009 06:31:03 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: SYX_4.SswBCj2Fjsw.Apnvidq06mcRQ- X-YMail-OSG: lHRyyM8VM1klVMyE2s7Rh_HAA7SShox1k8OJGQyqjteB6_nmg4won1V3LKQsi9M2tm7f9pWGmLyxOPX8hJ0VNoBMsdY5WEZWBBH7f5RQUCIdNRPyYMn1Axn5fxekAoC.w9XAAmbB7VticA6SWYBvwGQb0AsX1gC51RQNhuQdzgpIAfE.keDW54eLfiNdlt9q9.ozhpGRtQjbYgjBRf8NCdmJb7m9XBUZDkFnrkD5QZtZoV7c1hbOWhxIluVnpx0vN4OCBw_K1GrW0ZqU9YLGbcKoclFQBVPAaQhkF11gBOR8gtnD.aU94oPfF_kB9hjnLPZIN0kMMd.4DAJTd0..Dg58tNjjHOZg9YNLHlgL5GbV0ltZD_mLvy.XTP4G.Hc7jj3uXH1hiU3ap3zzjK3t1dfHdSqZYD.bxw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4B1E62EF.1040903@yahoo.it> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:30:07 +0100 From: ocean User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091130) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charles Howse References: <004801ca780e$6cca8f50$465fadf0$@net> In-Reply-To: <004801ca780e$6cca8f50$465fadf0$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 'FreeBSD-Questions' Subject: Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:31:04 -0000 i think it could go fine on this computer, use gnome lite and also add the needed ports to have a fairly nice system (gnome-backgrounds etc...). compile from ports with some optimizations (-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing and consider if -pipe could be used or not based on your ram memory). for firefox consider you'll have probably to use also linux compatibility layer with flash (don't know if it's on 6.4) for parental control check this thread in ml: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-June/152543.html http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-July/152728.html regards ocean Charles Howse wrote: > Hi, > I have a 6.4-STABLE machine running in command line only for my Apache > webserver. > I'm thinking of installing a Gnome desktop on it for my 5 y/o grandson and > grown daughter to use so they won't be pestering me to use my pc. > > The 5 y/o won't need anything except Firefox, some disk-based games and > Parental Controls. > For the Parental Controls, I need to limit the websites he can visit, and > the time of day he can use the computer. > > The daughter will only need Firefox and a decent word processor. > > The computer is a P3 600, 256mb ram, ATI 3D Rage IIc video, plenty of disk > space. > > Will Gnome2 or gnome-lite be faster? > > What is available for Parental Controls? > > Should I forget it because it will be too slow based on the machine's > hardware? > > -- > Later, > Charles > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 14:35:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 997741065670 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:35:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from usleepless@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 213348FC1C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:35:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz5 with SMTP id 5so4427571bwz.3 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 06:35:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=URvr4d1Pm4OlWAuZBwyXhCc8ElIzTQGnE5DKu0KA0GA=; b=w27BdSnZx3d00fefB+9oLq9Yy6eFWkKEZYfAllNnnnVS4IrbIEJ0Mu7LPjnzdXGrlr FyNbctO/weCdIOsKu0VmufVK5+5vN/UQhLCcrS7YqurkYdA/acqrxsU92zK3thOaezMb WqQIpwOEwjvQRhD4alsDBP0EmRu9/Dcq2mKRQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=ZsaApg1vpog16J3EFnkhqD+tiOCOniOTjL9m7E9ZeHRPvBVMCT1mJ7S+eMEa+2/rYJ MIVRZ7TGuKUKOzUHDsRWwlTMMqarK06UkS4jdaNhBqmFcgsSWAmTVNr8/ZAUn+uQFTLt +m5kmxeWUI+aowWrAWOGAjmxCUBQT19wCk6VU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.26.206 with SMTP id f14mr1053970bkc.95.1260282925780; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 06:35:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200912081426.25130.david@vizion2000.net> References: <200912081040.02500.david@vizion2000.net> <19230.20297.454639.6513@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <200912081426.25130.david@vizion2000.net> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:35:25 +0100 Message-ID: From: usleepless@gmail.com To: David Southwell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Robert Huff , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: set up of hp laserjet 2200dn with Jetdirect 610N on network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:35:27 -0000 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 3:26 PM, David Southwell wrote: > > David Southwell writes: > > > I am trying to set up a freebsd 7.2 p3 system to be able to print > > > from an hp laserjet 2200dn equipped with a built in 10/100 > > > jetdirect 610N. The printer is also used by a number of MS$ > > > systems on the same subnet as the server so I know the printer is > > > working and configured to print both text and graphics and to use > > > the double sided facility. I need to use similar facilities from > > > the server. > > > > I recently used CUPS to connect to a LaserJet 6 series with a > > non HP (but supposedly HP-compatible) print server. After some > > help, I entered "socket://" in the appropriate field > > ... and everything Just Works. > > > > > > Robert Huff > > > Hi Robert > Seasons greetings > > Thanks v. much. > > With help from Olivier Nicole I was able to telnet to the printer 9100 and > text types got printed. My questions now are: > > 1. How do I manage to print single/double sided and determine the page > orientation for different jobs? > 2. How do I print images/ PCl /postscript. > > Olivier has a script which he will be sending me tomorrow but I do not know > whether that deals with those issues. > install CUPS. regards, usleep > > Warm regards > > david > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 14:35:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BA261065676 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:35:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f211.google.com (mail-ew0-f211.google.com [209.85.219.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19EA88FC1C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:35:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so832616ewy.13 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 06:35:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RDjlJYXwzGdxkmkoOA24d5IDbVd5YNPSj5/mARA8vPI=; b=ZDz1LEkqyxc0rXXH1IryeZ5DIIjv7ZQ+51X3b3XT2Yxcx8Yfs7EzHr/g66NQ1if70l gzGBpLWMA5uvKhc3sdCctlcrVOt/N4hYnweEJSgyXzJt4E6YvzrU5w9H2NbCem8yD14B sxwl8SW7OS6pBwBme3/dqTvMcxw+zTmcSBPoI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=u3U06Jz/TyJpPfwdL3aRz3HsOfoOxvZc+CztsQsaSEKsuAP5MaqUE7b6Ue+qEZwNlK CXuL6nLW9cxhz4rfhU5QBZnxDaTOKnE8LIwZ48M/M/XyQZwqYAnJxWLuc8jSrlu3I5nj shFeSC6sbf6r6wxswYU+wJAT+pwuBK44QH2fI= Received: by 10.216.89.194 with SMTP id c44mr3018043wef.199.1260282933854; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 06:35:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m5sm16390997gve.27.2009.12.08.06.35.32 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 08 Dec 2009 06:35:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:35:29 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091208143529.0eae7661@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4B1E4557.40603@yahoo.it> References: <4B1E4557.40603@yahoo.it> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.3 (GTK+ 2.18.3; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: keeping system base update and problems with CPUTYPE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:35:41 -0000 On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:23:51 +0100 ocean wrote: > > i think i've also found an "unexpected behaviour" in make buildworld, > i've put src.conf and makefile.conf in /etc/ > > CPUTYPE?=pentium-m > CFLAGS= -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe You don't normally set CFLAGS in FreeBSD, it's set automatically according to CPUTYPE. I suspect that by explicitly defining it you may be preventing the make files from adding the -march setting in buildword. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 14:47:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D87411065670 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:47:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D63D8FC0A for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:47:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.10]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20091208144701.NOAD21519.mta21.charter.net@imp10> for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:47:01 -0500 Received: from Moe ([24.176.108.46]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id Eemy1d00N105u8Q05en0TK; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:47:00 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=7JTG9xPD6gfUdABCfkAA:9 a=W1y9R9IBytzLlghuPkUA:7 a=IGM_4d71J1PgXEg-7IBNDDQryZwA:4 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=dY5t55khgF-HE8_k:21 a=TVq9SgxtFspn5_PR:21 From: "Charles Howse" To: "'FreeBSD-Questions'" References: <004801ca780e$6cca8f50$465fadf0$@net> <4B1E62EF.1040903@yahoo.it> In-Reply-To: <4B1E62EF.1040903@yahoo.it> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 08:47:13 -0600 Message-ID: <004901ca7815$5546f380$ffd4da80$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acp4ExGwoXv0jpxmSEubIkkMJ4uZaQAAd6vw Content-Language: en-us Subject: RE: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:47:02 -0000 Hi ocean, thanks for the reply. Is there a browser that will work out of the box with flash? Most of the games the 5 y/o uses are flash-based. > -----Original Message----- > From: ocean [mailto:ocean_ieee@yahoo.it] > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:30 AM > To: Charles Howse > Cc: 'FreeBSD-Questions' > Subject: Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o > > i think it could go fine on this computer, use gnome lite and also add > the needed ports to have a fairly nice system (gnome-backgrounds > etc...). compile from ports with some optimizations (-O2 > -fno-strict-aliasing and consider if -pipe could be used or not based > on > your ram memory). for firefox consider you'll have probably to use also > linux compatibility layer with flash (don't know if it's on 6.4) > > for parental control check this thread in ml: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007- > June/152543.html > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007- > July/152728.html > > regards > ocean > > > Charles Howse wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a 6.4-STABLE machine running in command line only for my > Apache > > webserver. > > I'm thinking of installing a Gnome desktop on it for my 5 y/o > grandson and > > grown daughter to use so they won't be pestering me to use my pc. > > > > The 5 y/o won't need anything except Firefox, some disk-based games > and > > Parental Controls. > > For the Parental Controls, I need to limit the websites he can visit, > and > > the time of day he can use the computer. > > > > The daughter will only need Firefox and a decent word processor. > > > > The computer is a P3 600, 256mb ram, ATI 3D Rage IIc video, plenty of > disk > > space. > > > > Will Gnome2 or gnome-lite be faster? > > > > What is available for Parental Controls? > > > > Should I forget it because it will be too slow based on the machine's > > hardware? > > > > -- > > Later, > > Charles > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 14:56:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20530106568D for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:56:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f44.google.com (mail-pw0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF3E18FC0A for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:56:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwi15 with SMTP id 15so1675875pwi.3 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 06:56:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=M90GGluMAHMnWer2a8KOAGuWvsD7tnkJI5uUPtUnD8g=; b=bZjVTTtjAM4Rxm4XNiDaAKh9eAnjOV2o+eek1VbjONCUId1NEmobskXhaqi45yWxfi DW1FVsjeaCO1lm5blvdXPMYkzJjfu7EjxCbJ+6EgadbUmvvZI89on7TlaEgftDvZiZDb paGz6XYIn6Il261IYI50s3uSzrauEhB2YobNE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=oahvp3WOOcrwBv0PaLeuhI3U9TQMUwUis3LmqorwX7V7QHPs7xPjCOVtlBlpfzj+eP yDfweY4/CXaNVEdo7v2OlQzSD77tSs31FDQsH4cJ7hP9xxHZnRcLW2B8enEKyyT93L/i IVFm4HcODTYy56TK6PGc/f+Zgdf26PSAxx2Ss= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.66.15 with SMTP id o15mr885216wfa.145.1260284175209; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 06:56:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <004901ca7815$5546f380$ffd4da80$@net> References: <004801ca780e$6cca8f50$465fadf0$@net> <4B1E62EF.1040903@yahoo.it> <004901ca7815$5546f380$ffd4da80$@net> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 08:56:15 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e0912080656h77899aa2s77b459d5369350be@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Charles Howse Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:56:16 -0000 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Charles Howse wrote: > Hi ocean, thanks for the reply. > Is there a browser that will work out of the box with flash? Most of the > games the 5 y/o uses are flash-based. > Please don't top post, thanks. No there is no OOBE w/ flash. To get a reasonable experience with flash, you'll need to upgrade to 8(freebsd update) add in packages compiled for 8(don't forget the libusb stuff) then install flash-10 However if you're only goal is run flash stuff, this is probably not the OS for you. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 15:00:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87345106566C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:00:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D2A28FC12 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:00:00 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MH-MR003.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KUC0096M9NVNMB0@VL-MH-MR003.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:59:55 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <4B1E69F1.6040107@videotron.ca> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:00:01 -0500 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: flash alternative X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:00:01 -0000 I have heard that there is an alternative to flash that is apparently more efficient and less cumbersome in terms of data transfers; and that it is "lighter" whatever that may mean. Anyone know anything about this? TIA PJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 15:04:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BA63106566B for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:04:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8848FC0A for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:04:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20091208150439.ODFT21519.mta21.charter.net@imp09> for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:04:39 -0500 Received: from Moe ([24.176.108.46]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id Ef4c1d00X105u8Q05f4e6n; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:04:38 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=4MoljpIhSk5hN6_m49YA:9 a=estHfN7_Tlpfw39E4N0IDwMNilgA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 From: "Charles Howse" To: "'FreeBSD-Questions'" References: <004801ca780e$6cca8f50$465fadf0$@net> <4B1E62EF.1040903@yahoo.it> <004901ca7815$5546f380$ffd4da80$@net> <6201873e0912080656h77899aa2s77b459d5369350be@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6201873e0912080656h77899aa2s77b459d5369350be@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:04:49 -0600 Message-ID: <004d01ca7817$cbda4220$638ec660$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acp4Fpbp744SaVdZT/uFUXA4DUuzKgAAQGWQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: RE: Gnome desktop for 5 y/o X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:04:41 -0000 > -----Original Message-----