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Date:      Thu, 28 Sep 2006 00:54:23 +0100
From:      "Steven Hartland" <killing@multiplay.co.uk>
To:        "Scott Long" <scottl@samsco.org>, "David G Lawrence" <dg@dglawrence.com>
Cc:        Peter Jeremy <peterjeremy@optushome.com.au>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Oliver Brandmueller <ob@e-Gitt.NET>, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: 6.2 SHOWSTOPPER - em completely unusable on 6.2
Message-ID:  <002201c6e290$45ece980$b3db87d4@multiplay.co.uk>
References:  <451A1375.5080202@gneto.com> <20060927071538.GF22229@e-Gitt.NET><451A4189.5020906@samsco.org> <20060927152824.GJ22229@e-Gitt.NET><20060927155553.GB14563@icarus.home.lan><20060927155904.GM22229@e-Gitt.NET> <451AA7B1.5080202@samsco.org><20060927191402.GB932@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org><20060927210349.GG14975@tnn.dglawrence.com> <451AEB02.2090806@samsco.org>

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Scott Long wrote:
> Well, I kinda danced around the issue before, but I'll say it now.  I,
> as well as a few others, have seen instances of Giant being held by
> the syncer for 5 or more seconds at a time.  I can't explain why, and
> I've never been able to catch it in the act in a meaningful way.  But
> it is known to happen.  My best wild guess is that the syncer is
> doing a lot of work (there is no question here), and keeps on getting
> preempted, and as part of this, it blocks without locks being
> dropped.  Actually, this is most likely exactly what is going on. 
> The syncer is sending out I/O and is getting interrupted+preempted by
> the sata controller+driver, and it winds up making very slow
> progress, while never actually releasing Giant.

This could explain behaviour we've seen on busy boxes here.
You'll be typing away doing something and then bang everything
stalls. A few seconds later everything continues what may be
interesting about this is that its on 5.4-RELEASE as well
as 6.1-RELEASE.


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