From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 18 15:14:44 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE21C4880C for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2016 15:14:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C04361897; Fri, 18 Nov 2016 15:14:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 2DFA7CB8CA4; Fri, 18 Nov 2016 09:14:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Fri, 18 Nov 2016 09:14:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <22213.128.135.52.6.1479482083.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <20161118120740.cbaf9f31a85b2b19211f5d82@sohara.org> References: <20161118113224.20964d7d.freebsd@edvax.de> <747a871c-4d34-7c06-0c04-4650f31bb6ce@FreeBSD.org> <20161118120740.cbaf9f31a85b2b19211f5d82@sohara.org> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 09:14:43 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Microsoft announced it is joining The Linux Foundation? From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: "Matthew Seaman" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 15:14:45 -0000 On Fri, November 18, 2016 6:07 am, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Fri, 18 Nov 2016 11:44:07 +0000 > Matthew Seaman wrote: > >> Microsoft in its aspect as the global cloud computing company is really >> quite different from Microsoft in its aspect as the PC desktop operating >> system company. > > Yes instead of trying to ensure that every computer you can buy > runs Windows, that every corporate email system runs on Exchange etc. and > everybody has to pay to stay up to date, they want to ensure that as much > of > your data as possible lives on their servers so you have to keep paying to > get at it with rented applications. It's still a lock-in strategy. > This is the best way to make this point I've heard so far. Locked in into payment for rented applications (also: storage that holds your data etc.) They are not alone, e.g. Adobe (Photoshop is the app one of my developer needs of it) switched to "cloud" based applications. Helps to easier jack yearly payments from customers. If I am to invest my time into mastering the tool, I prefer to own the tool, not to rent it; the last means at the will of someone else I may not have access to the tool at some point. This whole thing makes me restrict myself only to tools I can have (including by buying commercial software, not yearly license to use it), and most of people I work for make similar decision for themselves (lucky me). But not the whole iPad generation does. Majority of people these days don't care where their data is and what uncle whoever (Sam in my case) can dig out of their stuff because of that... Valeri > -- > Steve O'Hara-Smith > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++