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Date:      Thu, 28 Feb 2002 22:13:49 +0100 (CET)
From:      Søren Schmidt <sos@freebsd.dk>
To:        "Justin T. Gibbs" <gibbs@scsiguy.com>
Cc:        Kenneth Culver <culverk@yumyumyum.org>, "Kenneth D. Merry" <ken@kdm.org>, Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>, Thomas Quinot <thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org>, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Updated ATAPI/CAM patches
Message-ID:  <200202282113.g1SLDne04824@freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: <200202282108.g1SL8CI61450@aslan.scsiguy.com>

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It seems Justin T. Gibbs wrote:
> >> What functionality is lost by this ability?
> >
> >Compare the features of the ATAPI vs SCSI CD drivers..
> 
> This is exactly why I'd like to see this code merged.  The hardware
> changes too rapidly.  The specs change too rapidly but MMC is MMC.

Exactly.

> More of us are getting wives we need to take out to dinner and
> children to play with, so having duplicated functionality like this
> just ensures that too many of us are sacrificing our free time instead
> of working together to get a clean solution.
> 
> I will go on record right now and as I've said before, there are changes
> that are needed in CAM land in order for me to accept this change.
> Due to the growing pressure to get this stuff in, I'll work with Scott
> and Ken to make sure we have *the right* solution for this in the
> next couple of weeks.  Thomas' code is a great prototype, but we
> need to do this right so that Soren can concentrate on making X, Y, and
> Z new ATA chip work, we can collaborate on making our MMC device support
> the best in the OpenSource world, and we all have free time left over
> to tend to our personal lives.

Agreed, but that means that not only CAM but also the SCSI CD driver
needs to learn lots of new tricks, but if that can be done I'm all ears..

Are we done with the "commit it quickly" now ? :)

-Søren

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