Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 20:21:43 +0100 From: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> To: Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> Cc: arch@FreeBSD.org, Jordan Hubbard <jkh@ixsystems.com> Subject: Re: [RFC] Set the default locale to en_US.UTF-8 Message-ID: <20150125192143.GR81001@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> In-Reply-To: <20150125191733.GS3698@zxy.spb.ru> References: <20150124143357.GI81001@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <20150125143243.GB76051@zxy.spb.ru> <7B1D8345-248B-4C44-9568-079BA29614C2@ixsystems.com> <20150125155000.GD76051@zxy.spb.ru> <20150125185951.GC23253@server.rulingia.com> <20150125191733.GS3698@zxy.spb.ru>
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--aH/0uqREc1VzwMkO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 10:17:33PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 05:59:51AM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: >=20 > > On 2015-Jan-25 18:50:00 +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> wrot= e: > > >On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 06:58:13AM -0800, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > >> > On Jan 25, 2015, at 6:32 AM, Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> w= rote: > > >> >=20 > > >> > NO! Please, NOT! > > >> > Not all bytestring allowed in UTF-8, as result -- unpedicable fail= ed > > >> > execution of sed, grep, vi, ed and etc. > >=20 > > I switched to en_AU.UTF-8 about 5 years ago with relatively little pain > > (though I had very little non-ASCII text). > >=20 > > The downside of UTF-8 in that random non-ASCII bytestrings are unlikely= to > > be valid UTF-8 and will therefore get rejected. About the only time I = get > > bitten by this is that my random password generator: > > dd if=3D/dev/random bs=3D32 count=3D1 | tr -cd '!-~' > > will die with an "tr: Illegal byte sequence" and needs a "LC_ALL=3DC" to > > placate it. >=20 > Yes, I now remeber -- other case will be tr. >=20 > > >I am years use ru_RU.KOI8-R. Now I try use ru_RU.UTF8 and got some > > >issuse (on 10-STABLE). 9.x and OS may have dufferent version of > > >software and don't touch this. > >=20 > > Once you've started using any 8-bit locale, switching to UTF-8 (or any > > other 8-bit locale) will be a PITA because you need to re-encode everyt= hing. > > And, since it's very difficult to run with multiple locales, you need to > > do a complete sweep when you change locales. If you are running into > > specific issues with incorrect handling of ru_RU.UTF8, that is a bug and > > you need to report it. >=20 > No, I don't have incorrect handling of ru_RU.UTF8 (for correct UTF8 > files), I have trouble with processing non-utf files (like example > with tr) That is why on my proposal also set LC_COLLATE=3DC which fixed the tr case = for example Bapt --aH/0uqREc1VzwMkO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAlTFQkcACgkQ8kTtMUmk6EyACACfYTfoqsPveXf5HTMufTrcKn+A tQsAmgLq+aCEuBC99fIIj+2/aryBITrZ =ymg1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --aH/0uqREc1VzwMkO--
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