From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 21 17:31:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A78106566B for ; Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:31:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE048FC08 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:31:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so2273588ewy.43 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:31:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WPkQ3F5GcvxeaGxRsCmvzpEVrcgL7vltY4LiAKqpI/E=; b=sJyIurV1rIYh8yGzX8QqI9ibZbA2WoZPHbbOGUdiF6S08glHg+DjUP+ZBfnHpii5Pb bP99RKhUqJt6rk53Mnl2i9W0A0dTtm2ZNupVzudLuDK86yHGTrbadvXbcx/98m4Lvxiw G6ARDfEnh1ddnDPxVDxMhd/k8XEcGyVKQgGvk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=J97JtewUBsI8Wj5xxdtUyUEYRLobyXd/W0xJD9ReeOKgE2RE3z92w0nJmLYNU0liup DCV/Wv7ShehuexBM+bBvTc/u5nI+7dwVWf4Kfe3bWIn1TbJDgCReCwh36EY0LMY4QB57 qxeC1FEvv5H1c5zmIC6KgQb+o9xXUASUVwo0M= Received: by 10.210.71.12 with SMTP id t12mr6325412eba.33.1240335097503; Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:31:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm4047883eye.49.2009.04.21.10.31.35 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:31:33 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090421183133.4e0c414f@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <200904211643.32448.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <200904211106.01965.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <200904211409.09360.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <20090421152052.0e6d6916@gumby.homeunix.com> <200904211643.32448.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Preventing ntpd from adjusting time (backwards) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:31:39 -0000 On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:43:32 +0200 Mel Flynn wrote: > On Tuesday 21 April 2009 16:20:52 RW wrote: > > > The bottom line though, is that ntpdate_enable=yes solves the > > problem entirely, since the real problem is not the step, but the > > fact that it happens in the background, and after a delay. > > Care to expand on that? Dovecot won't stop if root issues a date > command that sets time to the past, for example? I was assuming that since you're running ntpd you wouldn't be doing that. > > ntpdate may be deprecated, but it's been deprecated for years, and I > > doubt it will go away until ntpd fully replaces it's functionality. > > ntpd -gq can replace ntpdate in a crontab, but ntpd -gqn doesn't > > really replace ntpdate -b in the boot-sequence. > > I'm actually counting on it to be gone in 8.0. Is that official?