Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 13:05:57 +0300 From: Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@FreeBSD.org> To: John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org> Cc: Hans Petter Selasky <hps@selasky.org>, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>, mike@karels.net, "freebsd-net@freebsd.org" <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>, Jack Vogel <jfvogel@gmail.com>, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, Eric Joyner <ricera10@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Adding new media types to if_media.h Message-ID: <20150316100557.GS17947@glebius.int.ru> In-Reply-To: <1740987.7L4GidWlzm@ralph.baldwin.cx> References: <20150226230031.GN17947@glebius.int.ru> <1919032.aFEK3un8ig@ralph.baldwin.cx> <5501ABCA.7020203@selasky.org> <1740987.7L4GidWlzm@ralph.baldwin.cx>
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On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 12:01:13PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: J> On Thursday, March 12, 2015 04:07:54 PM Hans Petter Selasky wrote: J> > On 02/28/15 13:28, John Baldwin wrote: J> > > On Friday, February 27, 2015 10:23:10 PM Gleb Smirnoff wrote: J> > >> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 08:25:59PM -0800, Adrian Chadd wrote: J> > >> A> [snip] J> > >> A> J> > >> A> I think Mike's approach is good - it makes it easy to MFC to 10.2 J> > >> A> since there's extended lifecycle stuff to do there - and then we can J> > >> A> plan out how do the "betterer" fix after it's landed and churned J> > >> A> things. J> > >> J> > >> ... and we will be ought to support the "betterer" fix along with J> > >> the "not so betterer" for a very long time. J> > >> J> > >> The rock on which we split in this argument is that some developers J> > >> write their code for stable/x and then forward-port it to head, J> > >> focused on quality of result for stable/x; while other developers J> > >> do the opposite: write code to head, then consider or not consider J> > >> merging it stable/x. J> > > J> > > No, this is not quite true. Some folks have to write drivers on HEAD but also J> > > support running those drivers on older branches. The MFC's get harder when J> > > you have very different APIs on the different branches. It's already harder J> > > to test stat changes now since it requires completely different patches for J> > > <= 10 (the only thing people are supposed to use in production) vs head due to J> > > if_getcounter() and friends. Also, since 11 won't be out until 2016, that is J> > > far, far too long to wait for more media types. The stuff we need to support J> > > is already shipping in products today. We can't not support these in 10 (and J> > > possibly 9). J> > > J> > J> > Any news on this issue? Is anyone working on a solution for -head ? J> J> I believe a variant of Mike's patch is in phabricator now? There is also my patch in phab: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D2008 Mike already gave feedback on it, but I didn'y yet respond. -- Totus tuus, Glebius.
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