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Date:      Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:49:39 -0500 (CDT)
From:      "M. L. Dodson" <bdodson@beowulf.utmb.edu>
To:        Mark Ovens <markov@globalnet.co.uk>
Cc:        Clem.Dye@wdr.com, as_hombert@ibm.net, Questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Re: Booting FreeBSD with Win NT
Message-ID:  <199906152149.QAA84973@beowulf.utmb.edu>
In-Reply-To: <19990615223959.A254@marder-1>
References:  <H000008201cf3c91@MHS> <19990615223959.A254@marder-1>

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Mark Ovens writes:
 > On Tue, Jun 15, 1999 at 08:50:43AM +0100, Clem.Dye@wdr.com wrote:
 > > OK, I think I get the picture, but I'm still a bit confused here. If 
 > > I install 3.2 on the second partition on my first IDE disk (NT lives 
 > > on the second drive), which method do I use to create a BOOTSECD.BSD 
 > > file? Anne's approach of using BOOTPART sounds nice'n'easy, but I'm 
 > > not clear if this will work with 3.2, given the changes to the boot 
 > > process/boot files. Is DD still a reliable option in this instance, 
 > > as a fall-back? Can I frig something during the install process via 
 > > virtual terminal, for example?
 > > 
 > > Any advice here would be greatly appreciated!!!
 > > 
 > 
 > I don't see any need to use a 3rd party solution when FreeBSD has
 > 2 of it's own. The dd(1) method should work for you (it works for
 > me on 3.1 & I don;t think there are any major differences in the
 > boot mechanism between 3.1 & 3.2).
 > 
 > Copying /boot/boot0 sounds like an even easier solution, however
 > I just tried it on my system ('/' is on the first drive) by copying
 > /boot/boot0 to BOOTSECT.BSD (after backing up the original) and
 > rebooted. All I got displayed when I selected FreeBSD from the NT
 > menu was:
 > 
 > default: F1 _
 > 
 > (the '_' shows the cursor position). Every key I pressed just caused
 > it to beep.
 > 
 > Maybe, /boot/boot0 only works if / is on a disk other than the
 > first?
 > 

Could be that is so.  Too bad.  Well, dd is not too difficult.  :|

Bud Dodson

 > > 
 > > Clem
 > > 
 > > -----Original Message-----
 > > From: bdodson 
 > > Sent: 14 June 1999 20:03
 > > To: markov
 > > Cc: bdodson; Dye, Clem; as.hombert; Questions
 > > Subject: Re: Booting FreeBSD with Win NT
 > > 
 > > 
 > > Mark Ovens writes:
 > >  > On Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 09:11:58AM -0500, M. L. Dodson wrote:
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Wrongo.  This configuration works.  No repartitioning or other
 > >  > > hocus-pocus required.  When you set up fbsd, install the default
 > >  > > boot manager:
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > DOS and NT on IDE drive connected to motherboard (FAT and ntfs
 > >  > > partitions).
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > FreeBSD-STABLE (just pre-3.2-RELEASE) on SCSI disk connected to
 > >  > > motherboard Adaptec (2940W compat.)
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > c:\bootsect.bsd is /boot/boot0
 > >  > > Just copy it over and rename it.
 > >  > > 
 > >  > 
 > >  > The FAQ should be updated to reflect this. Under 2.2.x BOOTSECT.BSD
 > >  > was simply the FreeBSD boot sector, created with dd(1), and hence
 > >  > not executable. NT's boot loader was simply looking for the 
 > > partition
 > >  > described in BOOTSECT.BSD on the first disk.
 > >  > 
 > >  > Your solution should work with 3.1 yes? When I added a 2nd HD I
 > >  > created a small partition on the first HD to allow me to use the
 > >  > NT loader, seems I didn't have to.
 > >  > 
 > > 
 > > I _think_ it works with 3.1, but I can't remember whether I tried
 > > it.  I installed 3.1 and then almost immediately upgraded to
 > > -STABLE with a "make world".  In any case, I would suggest people
 > > go to 3.2R or a -STABLE snapshot, not 3.1.  The key point is that
 > > this solution is totally dependent on the "new" 3-stage boot
 > > loader.  In any case, when working with this range of versions,
 > > be sure to keep /boot/loader and /kernel version-consistent or
 > > you may get into a situation where your shiny new kernel can't be
 > > booted by your dingy old /boot/loader.
 > > 
 > >  > > c:\boot.ini is:
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > C:\="MS-DOS"
 > >  > > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT="Windows NT 
 > > Workstation Version 4.00"
 > >  > > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT="Windows NT 
 > > Workstation Version 4.00 [VGA mode]" /basevideo /sos
 > >  > > c:\bootsect.bsd="FreeBSD"
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > /boot/loader.rc is:
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > set root_disk_unit=0
 > >  > > autoboot 10
 > >  > > 
 > > 
 > > This may have to be:
 > > 
 > > set root_disk_unit=1
 > > autoboot 10
 > > 
 > > for an all ide system.  My configuration is DOS/NT on IDE disk
 > > (two primary fdisk partitions), FBSD on a SCSI second (and third
 > > and fourth) disk.
 > > 
 > > Someone with a range of hardware should work out all these
 > > nuances before the FAQ is updated, IMO.
 > > 
 > > [much elided]
 > > -- 
 > > M. L. Dodson                                bdodson@scms.utmb.edu
 > > 409-772-2178                                FAX: 409-772-1790
 > > 
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M. L. Dodson                                bdodson@scms.utmb.edu
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