From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 05:02:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2975F106564A for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 05:02:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edwin@one2onem.com) Received: from server.one2onem.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f878:3:47::d0e9:3d9b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587B48FC12 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 05:02:32 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=one2onem.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:Subject:To:From; bh=gYp39kbhjyU9wGNqzWmSnisDO4eXQm5IUjS1V3BdrtY=; b=AZxNGcnPIc/+z2Mm75dc6xlKds8xZEJO5+/v20BhOre0nGWR+RzzRtYaBxy6Fimx/rt7O4mGprY4rOG+MWuZsH0JbhJ1l0J0tmaQF5EtkJUtT8HBjCqHqUUqAMWDGoWr; Received: from [117.216.167.241] (port=19881 helo=intel24cc7d879) by server.one2onem.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SphB7-00018d-Ga for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 10:49:10 -0400 From: "Edwin Abl " To: Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 10:48:10 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac1hBmy88/7o6nMaQMClKXLQk8Ld8A== Content-Language: en-us X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server.one2onem.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - one2onem.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: VMware & Linux server users Data X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 05:02:33 -0000 Hi, Looking for the contact information of Linux server users across the USA and UK? 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If you no longer wish to receive our offers, please revert with a subject line "Opt Out" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 05:24:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C210F106566C for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 05:24:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from editor@d3photography.com) Received: from server.cwis.biz (70-89-202-5-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C1258FC0A for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 05:24:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.cwis.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9182D31A010D; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 00:15:56 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cwis.biz Received: from server.cwis.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (server.cwis.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SUw9aaf1unO5; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 00:15:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (70-89-202-1-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 17F0531A00F6; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 00:15:55 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <5002520A.8050009@d3photography.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 00:15:54 -0500 From: Ryan Coleman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Edwin Abl References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: VMware & Linux server users Data X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 05:24:23 -0000 If you did your research in advance you'd realize you're in for a flame war. On 7/13/2012 9:48 AM, Edwin Abl wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > Looking for the contact information of Linux server users across the USA and > UK? Or VMware users globally? > > > > We have a segmented database of 50,000+ SUSE Linux Enterprise Server (SLES) > and Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) users. We also have large databases of > Microsoft SharePoint users, VMware users, Novell users, Windows Server > Users, Solaris, and Unix Users, Citrix Users Cisco users, HP users, Dell > users and many more.. > > > > We've helped [technology] companies like [IBM] generate higher quality sales > leads, and more of them. 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If you no longer wish to > receive our offers, please revert with a subject line "Opt Out" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 07:32:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00927106566C for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 07:32:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45988FC12 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 07:32:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B5B5083D for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 00:23:43 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 00:23:43 -0700 Message-ID: <47761.1342337023@tristatelogic.com> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 07:32:19 -0000 I have a sizable (200GB) external USB 2.0 interface hard drive. (Actually, it's a plain old PATA drive in one of those enclosures that allows it to speak USB 2.0.) So anyway, to make this external drive work with things other than just my FreeBSD system, the drive has been formatted so that it contains a single, all-encompassing FAT32 filesystem. For various reasons that I won't go into, the thing experienced a power fail while it was being written to. I can successfully remount it on my FreeBSD system, so apparently, the FAT32 filesystem isn't too awfully damaged... at least not in the vicinity of the root directory. But I am old school, and paranoid, so I'd really like to run the FAT32 equivalent of fsck on the thing, to clean up any filesystem glitches. Is there any such a tool (as fsck for FAT32) available for freeBSD? If so, where would I find it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 07:43:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E45106566C for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 07:43:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43BAD8FC18 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 07:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so8829689pbb.13 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 00:43:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=C0UJmtqikfYvyP36pPmYoiXwA/YAQqFIoBztx3VuBAE=; b=qikF8yMJXDNb6mXQhJ8pfuxhmRJV1QumT3qkYz4TtdL7Wa50w8RI1KGfZFl1VmkP8A qr3Lb5mygHwwiJv5Xw+aBCxwgh4DNlw4EF9iyozIEEH3iAnlcSURDCLAo4KQhcxhi5Sk e3t/ZANd3HIAEnnU3AVUDi0j7ukKBjidNiGGquF+iL7cSX/Mv0MB/dPCThv7VYOlReMu qFnRuptME3JlgotLaqV/nzvSt+nQkqLvZGJIxKdVBbTS1TBjysooSu1OsYKEMQMZ/F+x XZG3lJqqrdw9BVgqjNjkQfHxZi+QKesWV3OEz9oRI3GhAeXJALmLactxykmiwvTq6P44 aDHg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.134.201 with SMTP id pm9mr17718759pbb.49.1342338184860; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 00:43:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.227.132 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 00:43:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <47761.1342337023@tristatelogic.com> References: <47761.1342337023@tristatelogic.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 02:43:04 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 07:43:05 -0000 On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 2:23 AM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > Is there any such a tool (as fsck for FAT32) available for freeBSD? If so, > where would I find it? > /sbin/fsck_msdosfs -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 08:56:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F491065670 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 08:56:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554F28FC08 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 08:56:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6F8uNmG002541; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 10:56:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6F8uMEw002538; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 10:56:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 10:56:22 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" In-Reply-To: <47761.1342337023@tristatelogic.com> Message-ID: References: <47761.1342337023@tristatelogic.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 15 Jul 2012 10:56:24 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 08:56:33 -0000 > Is there any such a tool (as fsck for FAT32) available for freeBSD? If so, > where would I find it? fsck_msdosfs but, in spite of some fanatics here my get worried, i do recommend use windoze scandisk. When recovering data from FAT32 i've proven myself what is actually a better tool. unless your disk is badly corrupted fsck_msdosfs would be fine too. but gets funny crashes when there are thousands of losts files. 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[82.234.66.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id eu4sm15360721wib.2.2012.07.15.05.11.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 15 Jul 2012 05:11:18 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=E9r=F4me_Lebel?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 14:11:16 +0200 Message-Id: <910FDED0-2B60-43B9-B172-66ABE40364A0@gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Subject: Kernel panic while importing a pool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:11:20 -0000 Hi, I had several kernel panics, and I finally understood that one of memory = was bad. I removed it. But now, each time I try to import my pool, I get = a kernel panic I'm using freebsd 9.0-release generic Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode cpuid =3D 1; apic id =3D 01 fault virtual address =3D 0x468 fault code =3D supervisor read data, page not present instruction pointer =3D 0x20:0xffffffff81473525 stack pointer =3D 0x28:0xffffff811c98e370 frame pointer =3D 0x28:0xffffff811c98e390 code segment =3D base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b =3D DPL 0, pres 1, long 1, def32 0, gran 1 processor eflags =3D interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL =3D 0 current process =3D 1592 (txg_thread_enter) trap number =3D 12 panic: page fault cpuid =3D 1 KDB: stack backtrace: #0 0xffffffff808680fe at kdb_backtrace+0x5e #1 0xffffffff80832cb7 at panic+0x187 #2 0xffffffff80b18400 at trap_fatal+0x290 #3 0xffffffff80b18749 at trap_pfault+0x1f9 #4 0xffffffff80b18c0f at trap+0x3df #5 0xffffffff80b0313f at calltrap+0x8 #6 0xffffffff8147357e at bp_get_dsize_sync+0x3e #7 0xffffffff8145e9b0 at dsl_scan_free_cb+0x120 #8 0xffffffff81430c74 at bpobj_iterate_impl+0xd4 #9 0xffffffff81430ebb at bpobj_iterate_impl+0x31b #10 0xffffffff8145fbc3 at dsl_scan_sync+0x4c3 #11 0xffffffff814670e0 at spa_sync+0x390 #12 0xffffffff81477739 at txg_sync_thread+0x139 #13 0xffffffff8080682f at fork_exit+0x11f #14 0xffffffff80b0366e at fork_trampoline+0xe dmesg : http://privatepaste.com/5c8c738627 What else can I add to help solving this bug? I'm not very good with freebsd. 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c70sm24119086yhk.12.2012.07.15.05.30.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 15 Jul 2012 05:30:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3WZnC554nDz2CG67 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 08:30:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 08:30:09 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120715083009.57cd779f@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <47761.1342337023@tristatelogic.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkwYPfTHb6UIv88lP+gyuuajgiowAGehDFyvVpT1sWE64EMjtppmELijt6IVcKHD/5vsHtL Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:30:18 -0000 On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 10:56:22 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar articulated: > > Is there any such a tool (as fsck for FAT32) available for > > freeBSD? If so, where would I find it? > > fsck_msdosfs > > but, in spite of some fanatics here my get worried, i do recommend > use Window's Scandisk. If you absolutely, positively have to recover the drive, I would recommend SpinRite 6 . Its not free; however, I have witnessed it recovering drives that other utilities gave up on. The only problem is that if you use another utility first it may mangle up the drive so bad that SpinRite cannot correct it. Its not quick either. I have seen it take an entire week to rebuild an 80 GB drive, but it DID actually recover all of the data. The choice is yours; however, running SpinRite at its maximum strength -- 5 -- is about as good as it gets unless you want to try a commercial outlet. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 12:37:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA241065673 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:37:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04A58FC08 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:37:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19FCAE656F; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:39:18 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=GwSksWrZs5OJ W00WH6cAMXvJK8E=; b=WS/l+hbvq+ZK7XGK8m2HO2/IFoD0+YxpSz19gDxTWFpa rypHo3xoYD5eOI/wITOgfIV5nBpb2dQRLuX3nI9yM1KFDl0zMH44zwCCcmzM4cpK IeixvvJ9L7VNHzc4DZIijWvMYiSOW9NHsEqSbhjf87HNgzGmKujqvzNYGpGtFxI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=qASKEd W1HdxUxiz+edZtGTm1lVTTCzkXbAanpxky2dHPU4ciLAK+d+aTDG4tD3YcGwCBUd xewOaLBUTVV9kK0xtsHkc//6AmPelGm90CBn/JZzH7Hrm82ijCMgNdowdLcBGds2 v4F3qQ0jjInxDARNX2T87/h31w2Qusb2fdSAU= Received: from [192.168.2.11] (unknown [93.89.81.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EC13BE643F; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:39:17 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <5002B996.2000603@cran.org.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:37:42 +0100 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <47761.1342337023@tristatelogic.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:37:45 -0000 On 15/07/2012 09:56, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > but, in spite of some fanatics here my get worried, i do recommend use > windoze scandisk. I'd forgotten about scandisk - for modern Windows (XP and newer) you'll want to use chkdsk ( e.g. 'chkdsk /F C:' ). -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 18:04:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85BEA106566C for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:04:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB97F8FC12 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:04:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21243 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2012 18:04:08 -0000 Received: from leila.iecc.com (64.57.183.34) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 15 Jul 2012 18:04:08 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:vbr-info; s=50030618.xn--btvx9d.k1207; i=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=tDfW1wv+QdksMEJlUGd6pzk0PTxQBi3lKdsqd+uu2MA=; b=nZV4za73utlLcsf5GV8iVO2muVGT2U25hS0Rm+zaasgXV/m8XWq59ysf+CaL2zT3yxLEkfd4uzgPkKEexQnx9GK+Kgn2Qn5shdEqSRsM3PhRBuX16eEA6NxQP+tnPy9cHoG03mwg9+GMF2T1TiotHJsRVINgbzDg0bdGMZPv4Zg= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Date: 15 Jul 2012 18:03:45 -0000 Message-ID: <20120715180345.25451.qmail@joyce.lan> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <47761.1342337023@tristatelogic.com> Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: rfg@tristatelogic.com Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:04:10 -0000 >Is there any such a tool (as fsck for FAT32) available for freeBSD? If so, >where would I find it? There's fsck_msdosfs, part of the base system. Regular fsck should call it automatically if you run it on a FAT filesystem. R's, John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 18:43:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 046BF106564A for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:43:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 673238FC08 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:43:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6FIhhh2001446 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:43:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6FIhg3r001443 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:43:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:43:42 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20120715083009.57cd779f@scorpio> Message-ID: References: <47761.1342337023@tristatelogic.com> <20120715083009.57cd779f@scorpio> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:43:43 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:43:58 -0000 > If you absolutely, positively have to recover the drive, I would > recommend SpinRite 6 . Its not free; again i would recommend standard windows scandisk. such tools as "the other" utilities are usually not better. make sure you have full disk backup anyway From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 18:44:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B581065698 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:44:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D466B8FC14 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:44:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6FIhwXs001452; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:43:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6FIhvpO001449; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:43:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:43:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Bruce Cran In-Reply-To: <5002B996.2000603@cran.org.uk> Message-ID: References: <47761.1342337023@tristatelogic.com> <5002B996.2000603@cran.org.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:43:58 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:44:08 -0000 On Sun, 15 Jul 2012, Bruce Cran wrote: > On 15/07/2012 09:56, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> but, in spite of some fanatics here my get worried, i do recommend use >> windoze scandisk. > > I'd forgotten about scandisk - for modern Windows (XP and newer) you'll want > to use chkdsk ( e.g. 'chkdsk /F C:' ). > both do the same > -- > Bruce Cran > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 18:49:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA70106564A for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:49:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [93.89.92.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D42DA8FC14 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:49:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 986F3E656F; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 19:51:25 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=msKkEOqishZc ndRizvvi5crWa9k=; b=eGsYizUv3qeMIZZDNbK1YY292Y7HskEfTqiMOiPrQSSK cX6ksuXk4BmkVsPKEUg/XqSRnu5UN7ECTh+5K/ebVsbFw3q2lahoFHdt1FRHP7p4 O4adIPlc1A7Xvu6M+oGsyziE222CwBP/wkiMGlGJMOvHnqt3XFp98H0FCWNEpSo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=sww6tR uP5wd4WdQvnAXzEQjTOa9GtKGueYemuz7JqUVylXgHyi5SEN0h59bSTTRuLMgGRS KtJ1ri7lpAq74hD5KyDqcPdKR4f6koVZLeXgkE5nOCCam4+sqa6Co3z/meAyK/eL /iHGa08Qd7jnKx84YhY2tZmCZKEomIVurPpAQ= Received: from [192.168.2.11] (unknown [93.89.81.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 75D0BE643F; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 19:51:25 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <500310CC.6000803@cran.org.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 19:49:48 +0100 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <47761.1342337023@tristatelogic.com> <5002B996.2000603@cran.org.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:49:58 -0000 On 15/07/2012 19:43, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > both do the same 'scandisk' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 18:51:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23880106564A for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:51:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A088FC0A for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:51:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9113B5083F for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 11:51:57 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 11:51:57 -0700 Message-ID: <64329.1342378317@tristatelogic.com> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:51:59 -0000 In message , Adam Vande More wrote: >On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 2:23 AM, Ronald F. Guilmette >wrote: >> >> Is there any such a tool (as fsck for FAT32) available for freeBSD? If so, >> where would I find it? >> > >/sbin/fsck_msdosfs Thank you. That sure sounds like it ought to do the trick. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 18:59:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16342106564A for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:59:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97558FC15 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:59:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92475083D for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 11:59:47 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <5002B996.2000603@cran.org.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 11:59:47 -0700 Message-ID: <64396.1342378787@tristatelogic.com> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:59:48 -0000 In message <5002B996.2000603@cran.org.uk>, Bruce Cran wrote: >On 15/07/2012 09:56, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> but, in spite of some fanatics here my get worried, i do recommend use >> windoze scandisk. > >I'd forgotten about scandisk - for modern Windows (XP and newer) you'll >want to use chkdsk ( e.g. 'chkdsk /F C:' ). Thank you. I had considered maybe using scandisk/chkdsk, but I loath turning on my one and only Windoze system unless I have to. (Mostly I keep it turned off so that its inherently evil aura will not accidently leak out and perhaps contaminate any of my other equipment.) 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a79sm25525011yhk.16.2012.07.15.12.37.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:37:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3WZyh80K2Cz2CG62 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:37:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:37:27 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120715153727.74c959c3@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <47761.1342337023@tristatelogic.com> <5002B996.2000603@cran.org.uk> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmYBNdIUUm7Hfm3aqhkXJONqVH12jPBw95HlhQvLqCRWj9uSr4w1XE8jBY1VXd6qdhe9dtS Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 19:37:32 -0000 On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:43:57 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar articulated: > On Sun, 15 Jul 2012, Bruce Cran wrote: > > > On 15/07/2012 09:56, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> but, in spite of some fanatics here my get worried, i do recommend > >> use windoze scandisk. > > > > I'd forgotten about scandisk - for modern Windows (XP and newer) > > you'll want to use chkdsk ( e.g. 'chkdsk /F C:' ). ^^^^^ [VOLUME[PATH]FILENAME]] /F Use the [/R] option to recover data {implies /F} In any case, SpinRite is a much better option. > both do the same No they don't. 1) Unlike CHKDSK, ScanDisk would also repair cross linked files. 2) ScanDisk cannot check NTFS disk drives, and therefore it is unavailable for computers that may be running NT based (including Windows 2000, Windows XP, etc.) versions of Windows. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 19:48:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E5D1065672 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 19:48:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52BE8FC0C for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 19:48:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-22-218.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.22.218]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1016B3CA61; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:48:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q6FJmNwM002580; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:48:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:48:23 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Message-Id: <20120715214823.679eb23d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <64329.1342378317@tristatelogic.com> References: <64329.1342378317@tristatelogic.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 19:48:33 -0000 On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 11:51:57 -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > In message > , Adam Vande More wrote: > > >On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 2:23 AM, Ronald F. Guilmette > >wrote: > >> > >> Is there any such a tool (as fsck for FAT32) available for freeBSD? If so, > >> where would I find it? > >> > > > >/sbin/fsck_msdosfs > > > Thank you. That sure sounds like it ought to do the trick. It will do its job: Check the file system's integrity. >From that point, you will either have the answer that everything is okay, or you have to go into the direction of recovery. In that case, different tools need to be used. For example, make an 1:1 copy using dd (or ddrescue or dd_rescue) of the disk. Work with a copy of that copy. Do not alter the disk. Then use tools that do the job of recovery (see my list postings about that topic, they contain a good list of tools you can use on UNIX). The suggestion of SpinRite is also good, even though the program is expensive. I'm confident it's worth its money. But if you are willing to _learn_ (which means to read and to experiment), the free recovery tools available through the Ports Collection are really good. Example: I had to recover data from a USB stick that "Windows" had "repaired", so no files could be read anymore. Getting a copy of the stick required a long time (because it was already damaged), but with the help of the free programs, I could recover _all_ files from the stick, and hand them over to a happy customer. But as I said, it may be possible that you don't have to walk the rugged streets of data recovery. :-) Suggestion: First use fsck_msdosfs without any parameters so it will ONLY CHECK the disk without altering anything (also see "man fsck" for -n, -v and maybe -d). Addendum: For dealing with non-standard file systems (such as FAT/msdosfs), the use of the _native tools_ seems to be the best solution in most times. In exceptions, it makes things worse. Still in most situations it just does the right thing. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 20:12:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4177E1065674 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:12:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mrkvrg@acm.org) Received: from xena.bway.net (xena.bway.net [216.220.96.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFDB98FC1A for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:12:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 63543 invoked by uid 0); 15 Jul 2012 20:05:56 -0000 Received: from smtp.bway.net (216.220.96.25) by xena.bway.net with ESMTPS (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted); 15 Jul 2012 20:05:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 63539 invoked by uid 90); 15 Jul 2012 20:05:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gecko3.bs.net) (216.220.115.209) by smtp.bway.net with ESMTPS (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted); 15 Jul 2012 20:05:56 -0000 From: mrkvrg To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 16:05:54 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-RELEASE-p1; KDE/4.5.5; i386; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <201207151605.54759.mrkvrg@acm.org> Subject: Re: Is there a way to run FreeBSD ports through port 80? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mrkvrg@acm.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:12:38 -0000 Hello All, I have a similar problem with passive ftp due to a self-imposed=20 restrictive firewall. When "make fetch" is run on a port and ftp data=20 is required, the PF firewall stops the program from completing. I got=20 around this problem by restarting the firewall with a separate set of=20 rules that opened up more ports needed for passive ftp. After the fetch=20 operation I would then restart PF with the more restrictive rules. This=20 sequence works but is a pain to maintain and also opens up a large=20 number of ports during ftp operations. I would like to have a setup in=20 which I do not have to restart my firewall every time I need to use=20 passive ftp. =46rom past experience setting MASTER_SORT to http works for those ports=20 that use http but obviously has not worked for those ports that ONLY use=20 ftp. I tried to use ftp-proxy but as far as I'm able to ascertain it will not=20 work on my simple home office setup. It is a single client connected to=20 the internet via a router: host <--> router <--> adsl modem <--> ISP. Any help to resolve this will be greatly appreciated. Cheers ... Mark On Thursday, 12 July 2012 12:23:29 Kaya Saman wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I am trying to introduce FreeBSD into my office and it's been looked > at with quite a bit of enthusiasm however, what makes it look bad is > our companies 'security' policy to block FTP. >=20 > At present they are running a whole bunch of CentOS based boxes and > VM's which of course can be run through port 80 when using YUM. >=20 >=20 > How does one get round this issue as my superiors are telling me that > opening up FTP is a security risk and therefor don't want to proceed? >=20 >=20 > I would like to use ports specifically and not the pkg_add tool to > get software. >=20 >=20 > Can anyone sugget anything? >=20 >=20 > Regards, >=20 >=20 > Kaya > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 20:23:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38E9106564A for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:23:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EA688FC12 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:23:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl8 with SMTP id l8so5237081yen.13 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:23:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ILigbgUDKr7ikbfrZjGrFjSxgp8B4evFnvwGQBA6maQ=; b=e1u1EA8EGgkkMgWPYyKEvagRYv93+YozLBFPTGoDokf6h5RwGaMmfexc8bVVTIGXgW yFMkLTO3HvLba5SgBkXXxPjieQu6mfEwgMKmdMLaViWIAlzFRQTdAND6p7OOVEOZbe9/ 7KYMGt3FgOxfdjbEOAasIVEaS2zjJVXPefM50= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=ILigbgUDKr7ikbfrZjGrFjSxgp8B4evFnvwGQBA6maQ=; b=MLjTHx0V8XDRCsHJvXQhXL0wLCC+q0P4j3+9hXudj/uIK6+AQY7K66Y8CEDCN6ERbA Z5p4jztjbFNZevXkme1AkKiB+tz2dGar5XCVDDIdV4MXAqr+GeMl+YeVQECePJlyY6eT b8Nd0dyg7gYdYpYBgnGBSBPKNxdDDZXRvTWZSyzByeRfH19G3/CqAgmvQkdHFfjGSA82 AF5LS44CNTIvQleRINjKcf5seG3QZ6ZMVBIkfM2WHOtKVq4MG2kgi5DR4J4OwP2oDf5b 1AYqM6+CDEe3c6BFnuaCcntbAwUjQMFwFq/9enzqwyhsqJdznjcfdrEHTC58wxvzxql9 daqw== Received: by 10.236.79.35 with SMTP id h23mr7600208yhe.60.1342383816796; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:23:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l49sm25679359yhk.15.2012.07.15.13.23.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3WZzjK6cZpz2CG62 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 16:23:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 16:23:33 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120715162333.45b82082@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20120715214823.679eb23d.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <64329.1342378317@tristatelogic.com> <20120715214823.679eb23d.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlfJjbDXtQmVdmix6D51ggp57rB76b5I1CW3M4IJUvzjy6PfDoaxZ7MoNpjxNcloZ2L4HXh Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:23:37 -0000 On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:48:23 +0200 Polytropon articulated: > For example, make an 1:1 copy using dd (or ddrescue or dd_rescue) > of the disk. Work with a copy of that copy. Do not alter the disk. > Then use tools that do the job of recovery (see my list postings > about that topic, they contain a good list of tools you can use > on UNIX). The suggestion of SpinRite is also good, even though > the program is expensive. I'm confident it's worth its money. > But if you are willing to _learn_ (which means to read and to > experiment), the free recovery tools available through the > Ports Collection are really good. If I might interject here, making a copy is obviously imperative; however, it also exposes a severe problem. You are working under the assumption that the copy is actually correct.In fact, it is simply what is being read from the disk at the time of the copy. It may in fact be totally in error. SpinRite will attempt to read a damage sector up to 2000 times and through different algorithms determine what is most likely the correct data. Obviously it cannot do that if it is working with a copy of the drive. It must have access to the original drive. I have to admit that am partial to SpinRite since it saved my ass twice in the past 10 years when no other software could do the job 100%. Hence, if you cannot afford to lose your data, back it up. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 21:29:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70046106564A for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:29:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A178FC14 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6FLTewk002635 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:29:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6FLTeFs002632 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:29:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:29:39 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20120715162333.45b82082@scorpio> Message-ID: References: <64329.1342378317@tristatelogic.com> <20120715214823.679eb23d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120715162333.45b82082@scorpio> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:29:40 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:29:47 -0000 > totally in error. SpinRite will attempt to read a damage sector up to > 2000 times and through different algorithms determine what is most man dd conv=sync,noerror From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 21:46:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126A11065780 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:46:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67E38FC08 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:46:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so9665469pbb.13 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 14:46:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=dJ6g8XIlP6K0BMJZmRPon8x8K4FSQzIQ00QcTMwkKnM=; b=LAPVy2DNJHx5SgrEs8tD6Ji1o+QW2+ih4B50rI36TjImEfUWKRIPYxj/7W+4Rsfz6l bISCVHGMes1ZpSZqrVj5oD1iacsqnd0xaNaDEt7DCIWT5002JJgpLBuFIJpUyxKZCySy SjlsJ7K9L2sp782kr00OhIrfK6He7xn8ufg6gX7Gbao2ox603N7+gLN/T7wPScJuTNGj FOzbbw80ry27AxqDr9VFLHbZ3rwRFn6yd1EKaI8AuX22xPq1BKI2LMgpLWkXi7oag7Gr JzjCAXy6c+6hnRbg0io4IPuGlOTiEO2h8s3zENAtEUwHy7SZSCTf8PU36z4cHxUHfHGg zz2w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.201.195 with SMTP id kc3mr22438529pbc.33.1342388813658; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 14:46:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.227.132 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 14:46:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <64329.1342378317@tristatelogic.com> <20120715214823.679eb23d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120715162333.45b82082@scorpio> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 16:46:53 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Wojciech Puchar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:46:54 -0000 On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Wojciech Puchar < wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote: > totally in error. SpinRite will attempt to read a damage sector up to >> 2000 times and through different algorithms determine what is most >> > > man dd > Even better, recoverdisk /dev/da0 /dev/da1 -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 21:48:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3CCF1065672 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:48:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7979F8FC23 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:48:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SqWfX-0000F6-Mt for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:47:59 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SqWfX-0006lm-9f for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:47:59 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6FLlwth026308 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:47:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q6FLlwsx026307 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:47:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bris.ac.uk using -f Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:47:58 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120715214758.GA26300@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: where is LOCALBASE actually defined? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:48:07 -0000 $ cat Makefile all: echo $(LOCALBASE) $ $ make echo $ What do I need to do to use LOCALBASE in my makefiles? Thanks -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 21:48:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D291065672 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:48:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B62428FC1A for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:48:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-22-218.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.22.218]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B3A241EC; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:48:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q6FLmH38002873; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:48:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:48:17 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Wojciech Puchar Message-Id: <20120715234817.fcfb1489.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <64329.1342378317@tristatelogic.com> <20120715214823.679eb23d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120715162333.45b82082@scorpio> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:48:26 -0000 On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:29:39 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > totally in error. SpinRite will attempt to read a damage sector up to > > 2000 times and through different algorithms determine what is most > > man dd > > conv=sync,noerror Even though it doesn't use different algorithms, programs like dd_rescue and ddrescue can also change the block size upon encountering read errors, and apply several cycles of read attempts. In worst case, there will be "gaps" in the result. Surely SpinRite is "more clever" than that, using some means to "extrapolate" the missing data. http://www.garloff.de/kurt/linux/ddrescue/ http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/ddrescue.html -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 22:06:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 333D7106566C for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:06:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E60558FC08 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:06:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbun3 with SMTP id un3so10582255obb.13 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:06:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=fdU+yxNeLlwoIybyz6TQmlfZzDBRxgoI0X6WnMq43kc=; b=TVwRbkk4u42TNa6WgQR97Z8QVYXrQ6SQsMBv9HzLEc/RLruwDwT+rnN4/ieWib0T+t e/XUPCT/clS4af8uxaDmmahC3jj5Hxsvb4iaIkp0oDxrhyhztf/IT3WTGnu++POqH1S6 9mFJaXsKTnULf4Oj0G20EpG+NrDhM++fCEXEg= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=fdU+yxNeLlwoIybyz6TQmlfZzDBRxgoI0X6WnMq43kc=; b=lYes/KHtaJgpdSOmmEDBTbKVqoFj1qsHq/q063FXBDpYdN00HEQFd8gf4v8KrrX9Ig msaJgqtb+xJ7mMT+/QYawYbxaWCpkrzZt10+KVzr/rjqL3WrgCNT2gBPA7DS1bAl3f9v l227sUDU6w9PzeGgNeE2xtSpY/586g8awzM9FDQFlnyLBgoePiCv8UBVTcBar0GQICcB bQuhDA4AF7z3LalRRTSqVQTNTJxFiVAfY4wODYGxqbMStyp2iE/Wf+3LQqV3JJm8zLC4 cAlg/CO4injblmY5QxgX+C7lUBHiNYwR0zoGS3gKNyRWi1NHrAlIlgb0bny83CddevJ/ IhdQ== Received: by 10.60.168.230 with SMTP id zz6mr1579871oeb.11.1342390005241; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:06:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.125.70 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:06:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120715214758.GA26300@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20120715214758.GA26300@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> From: Eitan Adler Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:06:14 -0700 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkZXF9ruce07fQaaYjxbUYVkA6R+zSxblbgOkXmAQnVcNkauA/FBNe6EUU3XtqCIfkQmxMJ Subject: Re: where is LOCALBASE actually defined? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:06:46 -0000 On 15 July 2012 14:47, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > $ cat Makefile > all: > echo $(LOCALBASE) > $ > $ make > echo easier way to test is "make -V LOCALBASE" > What do I need to do to use LOCALBASE > in my makefiles? You need to include "bsd.port.mk" (found in /usr/ports/Mk) -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 22:17:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48107106564A for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:17:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC908FC08 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:17:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SqX8L-0000wA-8f; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:17:45 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SqX8K-00077T-BW; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:17:44 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6FMHip1026414; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:17:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q6FMHiAg026413; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:17:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bris.ac.uk using -f Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:17:43 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Eitan Adler Message-ID: <20120715221743.GA26377@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Eitan Adler , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120715214758.GA26300@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: where is LOCALBASE actually defined? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:17:46 -0000 On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 03:06:14PM -0700, Eitan Adler wrote: > On 15 July 2012 14:47, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > $ cat Makefile > > all: > > echo $(LOCALBASE) > > $ > > $ make > > echo > > easier way to test is "make -V LOCALBASE" > > > What do I need to do to use LOCALBASE > > in my makefiles? > > You need to include "bsd.port.mk" (found in /usr/ports/Mk) I though LOCALBASE has meaning outside of the ports system too. Clearly I was wrong. So, if I happen not to have the ports tree, I cannot use LOCALBASE in my makefiles, right? -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 22:23:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E451065701 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:23:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1142C8FC17 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:23:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbun3 with SMTP id un3so10603484obb.13 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:23:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=UwzXeG9TdAOJZ+hTSPRn7v3DhNgOTvkGvxexOSV70c0=; b=VCeAo5RWe0GQ78cYeNStXungNWhdgIbl4qwmCkpfOEmBFSozps0SskZmP3NvYDyRiw Gys8PLChafl20KDvLYor4aoHs1jGV9jkEH/Sn5aSwLZwldzBG05kSo2jjmv0omJpvxmn rf4DWs5XrcFVZ3WeYH9X4MpzY2mz+0/M5wOl8= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=UwzXeG9TdAOJZ+hTSPRn7v3DhNgOTvkGvxexOSV70c0=; b=BIHr0PbWwrDP0hU2dmhCglPq5XFgW7J823LspcsMUP8vSXB6hSvNbuEp77pO1XLr+2 KsQqT2sUvegB3cNrV+GL4bmKulglOlXTrlhXlTITjb1YMcloCCX3o74S389ycBRPZIBj Auin+ToxEgzCPUUpUvoYto7z7mXR6V6H7qHihZ2HFYIdDjuCE9XQqy2oGrGcw4Ang4P6 EWeccUIBo/l1XyjrCvVoSl7PhojZoDnwALoa0HxSCpVSDYCAUxUxsevDvnhKYOSqUYcM hGNG9k0M/5nCWyJ7cuEuHP/oAxQ8PHt7akCOsUkGjp8WkfecewVtLUnc2fNfOLKiX1cZ 9eSw== Received: by 10.182.88.9 with SMTP id bc9mr12548146obb.4.1342390980621; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:23:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.125.70 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:22:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120715221743.GA26377@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20120715214758.GA26300@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20120715221743.GA26377@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> From: Eitan Adler Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:22:29 -0700 Message-ID: To: Eitan Adler , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlzqB8wuFDFuOPPnxpuJ6bEJszDBBbLyiM+JjI1cEX0Ul6S2OQuVFWwig+n+sXCuZTgXMlM Cc: Subject: Re: where is LOCALBASE actually defined? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:23:01 -0000 On 15 July 2012 15:17, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I though LOCALBASE has meaning outside > of the ports system too. Clearly I was wrong. > > So, if I happen not to have the ports tree, > I cannot use LOCALBASE in my makefiles, right? correct. LOCALBASE is a ports tree specific thing. you could define it yourself as follows: LOCALBASE?=/usr/local -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 15 23:08:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC73106564A; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:08:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B80E28FC0A; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:08:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SqXvi-0002IN-Qk; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 00:08:46 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SqXvi-0007k4-9M; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 00:08:46 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6FN8ktv026594; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 00:08:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q6FN8jGv026593; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 00:08:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bris.ac.uk using -f Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 00:08:45 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120715230845.GA26528@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Subject: ati, radeon, dri (drm) confusion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:08:48 -0000 My X behaves really weird lately [1,2], so I went back to basics. Can somebody please comment on whether what I'm doing seems correct. Thanks HP Compaq 6715s laptop FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #9 r238259M amd64 vgapci0@pci0:1:5:0: class=0x030000 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x791f1002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc' device = 'RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]' class = display subclass = VGA which, according to radeon(4x), is supported by radeon driver. I've got in the kernel, amongst other things,: device agp device drm device radeondrm device vga I then see in dmesg: $ dmesg | grep vga vgapci0: port 0x4000-0x40ff mem 0xc0100000-0xc80fffff,0 xd0200000-0xd020ffff,0xd0300000-0xd03fffff irq 19 at device 5.0 on pci1 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 $ dmesg | grep -i agp $ dmesg | grep -i radeon Is this expected that there's nothing related to either agp on radeon in dmesg? Anyway, if I do X auto-configure, i.e. X -configure, I get in the resulting xorg.conf.new: Identifier "Card0" Driver "radeon" VendorName "Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI" BoardName "RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]" BusID "PCI:1:5:0" Is that correct? I then see in /var/log/Xorg.0.log: drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 Failed to change owner or group for file /dev/dri! 2: No such file or directory Failed to change owner or group for file /dev/dri/card0! 2: No such file or dire ctory drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such file or directory) Failed to change owner or group for file /dev/dri/card0! 2: No such file or dire ctory drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such file or directory) drmOpenDevice: Open failed [drm] failed to load kernel module "radeon" (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM [dri] Disabling DRI. I guess this is not good, right? Please advise [1] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2012-June/012100.html [2] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2012-July/035171.html -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 00:48:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF34B1065672 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 00:48:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from akirchhoff135014@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B5BF8FC16 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 00:48:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta20.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.71]) by QMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id aod91j0041YDfWL5BooLVc; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 00:48:20 +0000 Received: from [192.168.5.101] ([68.83.2.18]) by omta20.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id aooA1j00S0PJoQc3gooAbH; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 00:48:11 +0000 Message-ID: <1342399697.9982.0.camel@sorrow-ub> From: Adam K Kirchhoff To: Anton Shterenlikht Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:48:17 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20120715230845.GA26528@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20120715230845.GA26528@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.2.3-0ubuntu6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ati, radeon, dri (drm) confusion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 00:48:24 -0000 Have you tried loading the radeon kernel module from /boot/loader.conf? Or even from the console, before starting X? Adam On Mon, 2012-07-16 at 00:08 +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > My X behaves really weird lately [1,2], > so I went back to basics. Can somebody > please comment on whether what I'm doing > seems correct. Thanks > > HP Compaq 6715s laptop > FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #9 r238259M amd64 > > vgapci0@pci0:1:5:0: class=0x030000 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x791f1002 rev=0x00 > hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc' > device = 'RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]' > class = display > subclass = VGA > > which, according to radeon(4x), is > supported by radeon driver. > > I've got in the kernel, amongst other things,: > > device agp > device drm > device radeondrm > device vga > > I then see in dmesg: > > $ dmesg | grep vga > vgapci0: port 0x4000-0x40ff mem 0xc0100000-0xc80fffff,0 > xd0200000-0xd020ffff,0xd0300000-0xd03fffff irq 19 at device 5.0 on pci1 > vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 > $ dmesg | grep -i agp > $ dmesg | grep -i radeon > > Is this expected that there's nothing > related to either agp on radeon in dmesg? > > Anyway, if I do X auto-configure, i.e. > X -configure, I get in the resulting > xorg.conf.new: > > Identifier "Card0" > Driver "radeon" > VendorName "Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI" > BoardName "RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]" > BusID "PCI:1:5:0" > > Is that correct? > > I then see in /var/log/Xorg.0.log: > > drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 > Failed to change owner or group for file /dev/dri! 2: No such file or directory > Failed to change owner or group for file /dev/dri/card0! 2: No such file or dire > ctory > drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such file or directory) > Failed to change owner or group for file /dev/dri/card0! 2: No such file or dire > ctory > drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such file or directory) > drmOpenDevice: Open failed > [drm] failed to load kernel module "radeon" > (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM > [dri] Disabling DRI. > > I guess this is not good, right? > > Please advise > > [1] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2012-June/012100.html > [2] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2012-July/035171.html > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 01:58:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8181065670 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 01:58:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Received: from ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net [IPv6:2001:44b8:8060:ff02:300:1:6:4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5118FC0A for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 01:58:13 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApwEAPp0A1CWZWdv/2dsb2JhbABFuTqCIAEBBXkQCxguVwYTiAwMuiSLQBqGLQOISZJIijCCb4FP Received: from ppp103-111.static.internode.on.net (HELO lillith-iv.ovirt.dyndns.ws) ([150.101.103.111]) by ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 16 Jul 2012 11:27:48 +0930 X-Envelope-From: ws@au.dyndns.ws X-Envelope-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from [172.17.17.134] (ws@predator-ii.buffyverse [172.17.17.134]) by lillith-iv.ovirt.dyndns.ws (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q6G1vXFs097986; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:27:34 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) From: Wayne Sierke To: Alexander Kapshuk In-Reply-To: <4FFF269F.406@gmail.com> References: <4FFF269F.406@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ASCII" Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:27:35 +0930 Message-ID: <1342403856.3212.3.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (lillith-iv.ovirt.dyndns.ws [172.17.17.142]); Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:27:34 +0930 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.72 on 172.17.17.142 X-Scanned-By: SpamAssassin 3.003002(2011-06-06) X-Scanned-By: ClamAV X-Spam-Score: -2.9 () ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: re: Patch failed to apply cleanly [chromium-20.0.1132.57] FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 01:58:14 -0000 On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 22:33 +0300, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > When attempting to upgrade chromium-19.0.1084.56_1 to > chromium-20.0.1132.57 on FreeBSD9.0 (FreeBSD box2 9.0-RELEASE FreeBSD > 9.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan 3 07:15:25 UTC 2012 > root@obrian.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386), one of > the patches failed to apply: > -------------------------------------- > ===> Applying extra patch /usr/ports/www/chromium/files/extra-patch-gcc > ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for chromium-20.0.1132.57 > patch: **** malformed patch at line 15: #if PLATFORM(CHROMIUM) > => Patch patch-third_party__WebKit__Source__WebCore__config.h failed to > apply cleanly. > -------------------------------------- > There seems to be a patch available that has been reported as having > worked on a 9.0-RELEASE/amd64: > http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-chromium@freebsd.org/msg00340.html > ----------------------------- > www/chromium/files/patch-third_party__WebKit__Source__WebCore__config.h.orig > > 2012-07-12 09:19:26.000000000 +0000 > +++ www/chromium/files/patch-third_party__WebKit__Source__WebCore__config.h > 2012-07-12 10:49:20.000000000 +0000 > @@ -1,6 +1,6 @@ > ---- third_party/WebKit/Source/WebCore/config.h.orig 2012-05-30 > 10:05:35.000000000 +0300 > -+++ third_party/WebKit/Source/WebCore/config.h 2012-06-05 > 22:32:48.000000000 > +0300 > -@@ -127,6 +127,11 @@ > +--- third_party/WebKit/Source/WebCore/config.h.orig 2012-07-10 > 07:52:48.000000000 +0000 > ++++ third_party/WebKit/Source/WebCore/config.h 2012-07-12 > 10:48:15.000000000 > +0000 > +@@ -127,6 +127,14 @@ > #define WTF_USE_NEW_THEME 1 > #endif // PLATFORM(MAC) > ------------------------------------- > Is there a patch available to an x86 based system? The same patch will work for x86. In lieu of the patch simply edit www/chromium/files/patch-third_party__WebKit__Source__WebCore__config.h and change the line: @@ -127,6 +127,11 @@ to: @@ -127,6 +127,14 @@ Wayne From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 06:15:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D3F1106566B for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 06:15:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A316A8FC08 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 06:15:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6G6FDWP004796; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:15:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6G6FDvA004793; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:15:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:15:13 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20120715234817.fcfb1489.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <64329.1342378317@tristatelogic.com> <20120715214823.679eb23d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120715162333.45b82082@scorpio> <20120715234817.fcfb1489.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:15:13 +0200 (CEST) Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 06:15:23 -0000 > read attempts. In worst case, there will be "gaps" in the > result. >Surely SpinRite is "more clever" than that, i would bet otherwise. simple tools and free tools are always better From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 06:15:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE24D10656DE for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 06:15:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A72C8FC0C for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 06:15:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6G6FVl5004802; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:15:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6G6FVdm004799; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:15:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:15:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Adam Vande More In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <64329.1342378317@tristatelogic.com> <20120715214823.679eb23d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120715162333.45b82082@scorpio> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:15:31 +0200 (CEST) Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 06:15:36 -0000 On Sun, 15 Jul 2012, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Wojciech Puchar < > wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote: > >> totally in error. SpinRite will attempt to read a damage sector up to >>> 2000 times and through different algorithms determine what is most >>> >> >> man dd >> > > Even better, > > recoverdisk /dev/da0 /dev/da1 true :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 07:22:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B49106566B for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 07:22:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp2.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1945B8FC1A for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 07:22:19 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=yam8O5Nh26Lfc7F7uffmcq80dpsXWA13vmrtqirtrfE= c=1 sm=0 a=GD-PhpMXrSgA:10 a=DvSzqBOGy98A:10 a=WCF7V-pGL4BgkkObxHgA:9 a=Q/oqmR4JO1zR3vNQamCQeQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller6727@bellsouth.net; sender-id=neutral Received-SPF: softfail (smtp01.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.134.26.53 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.134.26.53] ([74.134.26.53:24432] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id 4C/78-28589-880C3005; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 03:19:37 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 03:19:36 -0400 Message-ID: <4C.78.28589.880C3005@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Questions on ndis for USB wireless adapter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 07:22:20 -0000 I am having problems getting the Hiro USB wireless adapter to work and think I might possibly be missing something. Chip is Realtek RTL8191S. I read the man pages for ndisgen and ndiscvt and the FreeBSD Handbook online. Do I need options NDISAPI # and device ndis in the kernel config, even if I use modules resulting from ndiscvt or ndisgen? I suppose these wouldn't hurt, I just put them in the kernel configs for i386 and amd64, awaiting next system rebuild for FreeBSD 9.1-BETA1 or PRERELEASE. Also, I notice, in addition to the .inf and .sys files, there is a .cat file in the MS-Windows drivers: net8192su.cat net8192su.inf rtl8192su.sys What is the .cat file, is it a firmware driver? Drivers are included for MS-Windows 2000, XP, Vista and 7; all but Win 2000 include 32-bit and 64-bit. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 10:18:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44501106564A for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:18:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F188FC0C for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:18:38 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPSA id 27658373 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:18:36 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6GAIaLp056562 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:18:36 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q6GAIZwJ056561 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:18:35 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:18:35 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120716101835.GA56464@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: alias_pptp.ko X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:18:39 -0000 Colleagues, Several PPTP sessions do not work through "ipfw nat" without loading the alias_pptp.ko module. How can I compile this functionality (NAT for PPTP sessions) into the kernel? The following confuguration: options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_NAT options LIBALIAS is not sufficient, one still has to load alias_pptp.ko as a module. I could not find the relevant option in the NOTES. Thank you very much for any input. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 11:02:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296391065674 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:02:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72AD28FC08 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:02:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPSA id 27658002 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:02:10 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6GA2A8I056252 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:02:10 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q6GA2A03056251 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:02:10 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:02:10 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120716100210.GA32860@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: enable modeline in vim X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:02:20 -0000 Colleagues, Do you know how to enable modelines in vim running from root? Even if I put "set modeline" in /root/.vimrc, the output of ":set modeline?" still shows "nomodeline". At the same time, "set modeline" in ~/.vimrc works for all other accounts except root. Someone has protected the root account so tightly that I cannot even shoot myself in the leg. Do you know how I could override this protection? -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 11:09:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E699106567F for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:09:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corebug@corebug.net) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15DA38FC22 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:09:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl8 with SMTP id l8so5598099yen.13 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 04:09:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=JyWCvpZcIctgE8j4pPwgnGrckQ+9ZOGPK3AfyjZWfCQ=; b=Y1zbZyu+sCPm7XIjS4H8rcq/mbQx0BJ50FP9su4I+tdnhQDa0SFA4FVhyVV7Ofimhj SElrQ8JEGghJqYK2XzHXHQgV9ijGB5EDUf37bM3UU/5s29RbP5tt61nvWIffFZefMZx9 XTLYORYWOpukH7ZdxhYv4KO1AILlZU9gKm4O1Um7tsLVr85VzWQG4FBaXy9YtugfAjnE z7+dT+d5NIiGTrQRXyxkuer0qLQayVPvGBfLOi5b+nJPCPJtua5Du1rNEOD/xszJofmn oQUz7lhFp1EBcuh5+eVUv6XYW7Mifm2UTL+iWKSpbdtoZFhqfXMd0i8bFY2MNRj4+iIG eJrA== Received: by 10.68.190.40 with SMTP id gn8mr26357234pbc.118.1342436973019; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 04:09:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.66.255.70 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 04:09:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [95.158.3.122] In-Reply-To: <20120716100210.GA32860@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20120716100210.GA32860@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> From: =?UTF-8?B?0JLQuNGC0LDQu9C40Lkg0KLRg9GA0L7QstC10YY=?= Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:09:12 +0300 Message-ID: To: Victor Sudakov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnNBurwz/fIsXWUBP4FLjgJh19H6WbOgx7sOIJg9Nm92ZUJ/bfxXacJ/F0RcI+vNxd6PZCm Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: enable modeline in vim X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:09:34 -0000 2012/7/16 Victor Sudakov : > Colleagues, > > Do you know how to enable modelines in vim running from root? Even if > I put "set modeline" in /root/.vimrc, the output of ":set modeline?" > still shows "nomodeline". At the same time, "set modeline" in ~/.vimrc > works for all other accounts except root. > > Someone has protected the root account so tightly that I cannot even > shoot myself in the leg. Do you know how I could override this > protection? > > -- > Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN > sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" In my vimrc i have next: set modeline set modelines=3 And it works, no matter from root or normal user. Hope this helps. -- ~~~ WBR, Vitaliy Turovets Systems Administrator Corebug.Net +38(093)265-70-55 VITU-RIPE X-NCC-RegID: ua.tv From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 14:03:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10EC91065670 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:03:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B4D08FC18 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:03:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q6GE4VrC001138 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 09:04:31 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 09:04:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201207161404.q6GE4VrC001138@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:03:22 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 15 16:31:45 2012 > Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:29:39 +0200 (CEST) > From: Wojciech Puchar > To: FreeBSD > Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? > > > totally in error. SpinRite will attempt to read a damage sector up to > > 2000 times and through different algorithms determine what is most > > man dd > > conv=sync,noerror This is *precisely* why dd is _grossly_inferior_ to professional-grade tools like Spinrite. With the settings the resident "infallible expert on everything" <*SNORT*> recommends, dd will make _one_ attempt to read each disk sector, going through the O/S's device driver code, and write out 'whatever it got', regardless of whether or not ane sort of read-error was signalled. This results in GUARANNTEED, *UNRECOVERABLE*, GARBAGE in the copy, _every_ place where a read error was encountered. This result can be marginally acceptable -- for 'first-cut' attempts at accessing 'easily recoverable' data on the disk. 'dd' is purely 'amateurville', however, when it comes to recovering =critical= data inside an 'unreadable' (by the O/S) disk block. Spinrite, and other professional-grade tools, run absolutely stand-alone, without the use of _any_ O/S drivers, or even BIOS code. Spinrite _directly_ programs the hard-disk-controller chip, can retrieve into memory _every_ bit -- including address-marks, sector framing, recorded ECC bits, and so on -- on a track, for analysis, can seek from an inner track, read the bits, then seek from an _outer_ track, and do another read. It can also do things like step the heads 'fractionally' off the track center, and read _there_. By doing these kinds of *very*low*level* operations, that are forbidden to any 'userland' task, by an O/S, tools like Spinrite can do a FAR BETTER job of extracting data from damaged disks. Professional-grade tools can also do things like 'pre-initialize' the I/O buffer _in_the_disk_itself_, with _different_ bit patterns on multiple read passes, They can thus find bitstrings that are (a) the 'prior data' in th buffer, (b) bits that are read consistently from the disk, and (c) bits that 'change value' from one read attempt to the next. This allows such tools to do a much better job of RECONSTRUCTING the actual data in the 'error' sector(s). "Make a copy, and work only on the copy" _is_ good advice for attempting 'simple' data recovery with tools that run in 'userland', under an O/S. When the 'simple' approach fails, or is insufficient, it is time to bring out the "big guns" -- things like Spinrite -- which -require- direct accesss to the original damaged disk. Since Spinrite, and similar tools, operate READ-ONLY on the disk -- which is *not* guaranteed if there is a general-purpose O/S in the wa -- it _is_ generally safe to let them access the damaged original. The problematic situation is where spinning up the drive causes -more- damage to the media.. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 14:49:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 966FD106564A for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:49:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5628FC15 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:49:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhfs35 with SMTP id s35so6082276yhf.13 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 07:49:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:organization:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=U5+A7r7wJkWexGSkCyEIpygw9Sm4N3KUmoSujQdy6SU=; b=isWcdkr48q2VkPXL61Mfnbm1vSE7Jbz/+8nRzDsv4y287DT1/gql71YIuTDVvTD9NU V2y9SqfVxL181KoF9+QmqqCypRWfzm0n1F1JKiVKj21tW9k1YAf5TlJjw3wn4FtwBsIp 9rTQWJCIarFBj5onVLKgY5SzKsSkkzd2TZkodlMug0JLWXUvENw7pnO93TEliYiTgE8o QIr8EF3sCYm2sqD9JWBB0l20l3Z31eWqd9gvFVu+qT/JTcTIvoGxWvffinLggaEi0qLS XPv4WdnQznMuIYg3qUpe39lNy8ZfpOR3LwEu6RzR3RVmhj3FPefQV6ehqDwl6N6rY/HQ zpxg== Received: by 10.236.108.234 with SMTP id q70mr9741370yhg.4.1342450191847; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 07:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from papi ([177.98.49.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v9sm14256309anj.14.2012.07.16.07.49.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 16 Jul 2012 07:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:50:28 -0300 From: Mario Lobo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120716115028.263caf26@papi> Organization: BSD X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlX/6jTtK2B+/TkU7EePu2giDNi3T5GAM65zK0CFVxS43HPPMdtNiMdiGdpC/KLgu/l3yTU Subject: OT - Squid external connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:49:52 -0000 Hi; Would anybody know how can I cross-reference squid/Lusca external connections with LAN hosts? For example, if I see an http connection on ext_if, is there a way to find out on behalf of which LAN host squid is making that connection? Using FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE, pf and Lusca latest port. I tried to search for a hint but this is really tricky to Google for. Please forgive me the OT but this list has always been a good first step for the right directions. Thanks, -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a7sm25779647yhm.0.2012.07.16.08.50.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3WbTbf5kRyz2CG62 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:50:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:50:22 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120716115022.68940af1@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <201207161404.q6GE4VrC001138@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <201207161404.q6GE4VrC001138@mail.r-bonomi.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnV+LcJnhxV2MReNEONTu+ikiIs9xsjGKkufV6fgV3L+5ewsGCgOIJv8LbU2Jgifl/9H/Mc Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 15:50:32 -0000 On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 09:04:31 -0500 (CDT) Robert Bonomi articulated: > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 15 16:31:45 2012 > > Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:29:39 +0200 (CEST) > > From: Wojciech Puchar > > To: FreeBSD > > Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? > > > > > totally in error. SpinRite will attempt to read a damage sector > > > up to 2000 times and through different algorithms determine what > > > is most > > > > man dd > > > > conv=sync,noerror > > This is *precisely* why dd is _grossly_inferior_ to > professional-grade tools like Spinrite. > > With the settings the resident "infallible expert on everything" > <*SNORT*> recommends, dd will make _one_ attempt to read each disk > sector, going through the O/S's device driver code, and write out > 'whatever it got', regardless of whether or not ane sort of > read-error was signalled. This results in GUARANNTEED, > *UNRECOVERABLE*, GARBAGE in the copy, _every_ place where a read > error was encountered. This result can be marginally acceptable -- > for 'first-cut' attempts at accessing 'easily recoverable' data on > the disk. > > 'dd' is purely 'amateurville', however, when it comes to recovering > =critical= data inside an 'unreadable' (by the O/S) disk block. > > > Spinrite, and other professional-grade tools, run absolutely > stand-alone, without the use of _any_ O/S drivers, or even BIOS > code. Spinrite _directly_ programs the hard-disk-controller chip, > can retrieve into memory _every_ bit -- including address-marks, > sector framing, recorded ECC bits, and so on -- on a track, for > analysis, can seek from an inner track, read the bits, then seek from > an _outer_ track, and do another read. It can also do things like > step the heads 'fractionally' off the track center, and read > _there_. By doing these kinds of *very*low*level* operations, that > are forbidden to any 'userland' task, by an O/S, tools like Spinrite > can do a FAR BETTER job of extracting data from damaged disks. > > Professional-grade tools can also do things like 'pre-initialize' the > I/O buffer _in_the_disk_itself_, with _different_ bit patterns on > multiple read passes, They can thus find bitstrings that are (a) the > 'prior data' in th buffer, (b) bits that are read consistently from > the disk, and (c) bits that 'change value' from one read attempt to > the next. This allows such tools to do a much better job of > RECONSTRUCTING the actual data in the 'error' sector(s). > > > "Make a copy, and work only on the copy" _is_ good advice for > attempting 'simple' data recovery with tools that run in 'userland', > under an O/S. When the 'simple' approach fails, or is insufficient, > it is time to bring out the "big guns" -- things like Spinrite -- > which -require- direct accesss to the original damaged disk. Since > Spinrite, and similar tools, operate READ-ONLY on the disk -- which > is *not* guaranteed if there is a general-purpose O/S in the wa -- it > _is_ generally safe to let them access the damaged original. The > problematic situation is where spinning up the drive causes -more- > damage to the media.. +1 I use to keep SpinRite on a flash drive that I could easily carry with me if needed. Of course that would require the machine to be worked on to have the ability to boot from a flash drive. Unfortunately, not all of them could. Fortunately, I almost never need an industrial strength recovery product like SpinRite. It is nice to know it is available if I do though. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 16:37:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9033F106566C for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 16:37:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D59F18FC18 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 16:37:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPSA id 27664941 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 23:37:01 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6GGb1wl065314 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 23:37:01 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q6GGb0tl065312 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 23:37:00 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 23:37:00 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120716163700.GA60274@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20120716100210.GA32860@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: enable modeline in vim X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 16:37:04 -0000 ÷ÉÔÁÌÉÊ ôÕÒÏ×Åà wrote: > > > > Do you know how to enable modelines in vim running from root? Even if > > I put "set modeline" in /root/.vimrc, the output of ":set modeline?" > > still shows "nomodeline". At the same time, "set modeline" in ~/.vimrc > > works for all other accounts except root. > > > > Someone has protected the root account so tightly that I cannot even > > shoot myself in the leg. Do you know how I could override this > > protection? > > > In my vimrc i have next: > set modeline > set modelines=3 > As I said, in /root/.vimrc I have: set modeline set modelines=5 > And it works, no matter from root or normal user. Hope this helps. And it does not work for root. vim-7.3.556_1 Surely I am doing something stupid but I cannot figure out what. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 17:03:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2DD9106564A for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:03:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37878FC0A for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:03:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so11163822pbb.13 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:03:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=VIvK1H3xeAsk05Aogzd0trngtrOgt93zqGEBvXI2yYw=; b=Ppp1iO8J4kIrvzZ40+IM8EsCjIAaPR0hAW6SZ4RwKxDMuyfyO9zyn0k6DHjajWVFPf WwobyqrZalS2cwSios6yLVwvwBfjOyoT3jdklG/CLWtkTPlK7s7k+9GoWESJoHkDt/ZP nixSdDHj8GHXMWRPW4n0NHfas4I8EXywF7aWdFm/MYBODIQFOJhjcJnRy85p8VRgTWqL ZlqRyqLX/mHK7d4fAnw1285FyL1gAxbBAwn9NjZT3DXrcgN6rJT+nm5WdvLvkJ8Z1hii LOIqB7ZX1xwIxtO2vCxphoYykvf8L7/ORSjt5PTrpU8aKCBRcYLMHgR4iaz3KWRSSMsD KA2Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.201.195 with SMTP id kc3mr28743318pbc.33.1342458217446; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.227.132 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:03:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120716115022.68940af1@scorpio> References: <201207161404.q6GE4VrC001138@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20120716115022.68940af1@scorpio> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:03:37 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:03:37 -0000 On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Jerry wrote: > > > > > This is *precisely* why dd is _grossly_inferior_ to > > professional-grade tools like Spinrite. > > > > With the settings the resident "infallible expert on everything" > > <*SNORT*> recommends, dd will make _one_ attempt to read each disk > > sector, going through the O/S's device driver code, and write out > > 'whatever it got', regardless of whether or not ane sort of > > read-error was signalled. This results in GUARANNTEED, > > *UNRECOVERABLE*, GARBAGE in the copy, _every_ place where a read > > error was encountered. This result can be marginally acceptable -- > > for 'first-cut' attempts at accessing 'easily recoverable' data on > > the disk. > > > > 'dd' is purely 'amateurville', however, when it comes to recovering > > =critical= data inside an 'unreadable' (by the O/S) disk block. > > > > > > Spinrite, and other professional-grade tools, run absolutely > > stand-alone, without the use of _any_ O/S drivers, or even BIOS > > code. Spinrite _directly_ programs the hard-disk-controller chip, > > can retrieve into memory _every_ bit -- including address-marks, > > sector framing, recorded ECC bits, and so on -- on a track, for > > analysis, can seek from an inner track, read the bits, then seek from > > an _outer_ track, and do another read. It can also do things like > > step the heads 'fractionally' off the track center, and read > > _there_. By doing these kinds of *very*low*level* operations, that > > are forbidden to any 'userland' task, by an O/S, tools like Spinrite > > can do a FAR BETTER job of extracting data from damaged disks. > > > > Professional-grade tools can also do things like 'pre-initialize' the > > I/O buffer _in_the_disk_itself_, with _different_ bit patterns on > > multiple read passes, They can thus find bitstrings that are (a) the > > 'prior data' in th buffer, (b) bits that are read consistently from > > the disk, and (c) bits that 'change value' from one read attempt to > > the next. This allows such tools to do a much better job of > > RECONSTRUCTING the actual data in the 'error' sector(s). > > > > > > "Make a copy, and work only on the copy" _is_ good advice for > > attempting 'simple' data recovery with tools that run in 'userland', > > under an O/S. When the 'simple' approach fails, or is insufficient, > > it is time to bring out the "big guns" -- things like Spinrite -- > > which -require- direct accesss to the original damaged disk. Since > > Spinrite, and similar tools, operate READ-ONLY on the disk -- which > > is *not* guaranteed if there is a general-purpose O/S in the wa -- it > > _is_ generally safe to let them access the damaged original. The > > problematic situation is where spinning up the drive causes -more- > > damage to the media.. > > +1 > > I use to keep SpinRite on a flash drive that I could easily carry with > me if needed. Of course that would require the machine to be worked on > to have the ability to boot from a flash drive. Unfortunately, not all > of them could. Fortunately, I almost never need an industrial strength > recovery product like SpinRite. It is nice to know it is available if I > do though. SpinWrong is a scam, Gibson is a fraud, and this conversation is pure marketing gibberish. I thought most had overcome this credulity years ago. It appears I was mistaken. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 17:10:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A033106564A for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:10:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2647D8FC0C for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:10:42 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=3+HCfWSoPIMxBqKmOXpjfdZVsVl1G1OxTGU2OURpnyQ=; b=gTRiCKuo3I6+AGmWBAShvff8VCkinA+Yc70OLoc0+7vw4avRohTQAoBCFyXUylHBvSmXZXeQIcZ+1qGMX6zebxgu8E4Mqmc1pfcj3v3HKTx6OvGyHacBNuTZ6i//Vi1B; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Sqooj-000H0Y-7h for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:10:41 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1342458635-94480-94479/5/124; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:10:35 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201207161404.q6GE4VrC001138@mail.r-bonomi.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:10:34 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <201207161404.q6GE4VrC001138@mail.r-bonomi.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.00 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:10:42 -0000 On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 09:04:31 -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote: > This is *precisely* why dd is _grossly_inferior_ to professional-grade > tools like Spinrite. I bet you are a big fan of homeopathic treatments too, aren't you? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 17:20:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31665106564A for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:20:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Dave.Robison@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB548FC0C for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:20:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.16]) by ltcfislmsgpa01.fnfis.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q6GHFowq024308 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:20:50 -0500 Received: from lefty.vicor.com (10.14.152.6) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.309.2; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:20:26 -0500 Message-ID: <50044D56.5080803@fisglobal.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:20:22 -0700 From: "Robison, Dave" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120209 Thunderbird/10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: References: <201207161404.q6GE4VrC001138@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-IP: [10.14.152.6] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855, 1.0.260, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-07-16_03:2012-07-16, 2012-07-16, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: david.robison@fisglobal.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:20:53 -0000 On 07/16/2012 10:10, Mark Felder wrote: > On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 09:04:31 -0500, Robert Bonomi > wrote: > >> This is *precisely* why dd is _grossly_inferior_ to professional-grade >> tools like Spinrite. > > I bet you are a big fan of homeopathic treatments too, aren't you? > _______________________________________________ > Nice ad hominem there. Very impressive. Perhaps we can sink a bit lower by making some random comments about people's mothers while we're at it. I've used Spinrite a few times with good results. It does take forever at times. I've also used the dd trick with good results. -- Dave Robison Sales Solution Architect II FIS Banking Solutions 510/621-2089 (w) 530/518-5194 (c) 510/621-2020 (f) daver@vicor.com david.robison@fisglobal.com _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 18:59:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0C9106564A for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 18:59:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A506C8FC08 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 18:59:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SqqWL-0003uH-M7 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:59:49 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SqqWL-0006jj-IK for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:59:49 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6GIxnx9043606 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:59:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q6GIxndf043605 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:59:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bris.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bris.ac.uk using -f Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:59:49 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120716185948.GA43227@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: how to preserve local modifications to /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 18:59:51 -0000 I was getting Tex capacity exceeded, sorry [main memory size 1000000] error, so had to increase main_memory in /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf main_memory = 7000000 % words of inimemory available; also applies to inimf&mp This works fine, but this file will be overwritten if I update/reinstall print/teTeX-base. I was trying to make a local copy instead: TZAV> cat $HOME/.texmf-var/web2c/texmf.cnf % refer to /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf, % installed by teTeX-base-3.0_23: print/teTeX-base % for details main_memory = 7000000 % words of inimemory available; also applies to inimf&mp TZAV> but this doesn't help. Please advise -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 19:10:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB026106566B for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:10:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8519A8FC15 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:10:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sqqgb-00083Z-5l for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 21:10:25 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 21:10:25 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 21:10:25 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:10:13 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 15 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) Subject: LibreOffice with Java? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:10:31 -0000 I note that in the Makefile for libreoffice (/usr/ports/editors/libreoffice/Makefile) it says: "LibreOffice works only with Java 6" But I have Java 7. Is this a problem? $ java -version openjdk version "1.7.0_04" OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_04-b22) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.0-b21, mixed mode) $ LibreOffice seems to install (from the port) and run OK. This is 9.0-RELEASE on amd64. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 16 19:25:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3F81065674 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:25:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gibblertron@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9802E8FC08 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:25:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so11354163pbb.13 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:25:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; bh=MNWUJq6ZQpmbDqGjRaOgS6XR0BbGHg+F5YubkYXqbs8=; b=mWyr40pqyHdTPh0sWFRxyy/YEdE6CMKhld6x6em6BceK3zNKj3c4o9IsHmaN9xyLTG pa464gOWu51BY1+Ew28bPWr1XiypLiZv+Ds6xUq38wh0biTq9kFt8GvXlu3BKl7yUzS2 uGVulfHMXxh3PFdXwvZl9gWSY259b1BZgjHF8+wxdIMifoUgzAuYH6+bcaKiNjtJ9rKr 5UayTnMHmf4sjiyPf0bjBxX1YxEalHq+ckewS3i0AHL8tzg9GmMHWOQ9zhPmQCERl6rn SDGq7rtpSc2J8sfWSLxqqMUyDIw/hWVxAjWFNpoTRBDRoPBPjfKCggbRNEMuIFeSH6+t /yZg== Received: by 10.68.231.39 with SMTP id td7mr29611975pbc.3.1342466744188; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:25:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.78] ([96.53.33.22]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ms9sm9638190pbb.43.2012.07.16.12.25.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:25:42 -0700 From: Patrick To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <91F2F4DCF7B24892B865B0A42FEFEBFB@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20120716163700.GA60274@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20120716100210.GA32860@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20120716163700.GA60274@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> X-Mailer: sparrow 1.6.2 (build 1143.6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: enable modeline in vim X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:25:44 -0000 Assuming you've installed vim from the ports tree, /usr/local/share/vim/v= imrc is the shared vimrc file amongst all users. Have you tried setting i= t in there=3F =20 On Monday, 16 July, 2012 at 09:37 , Victor Sudakov wrote: > =D0=92=D0=B8=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BB=D0=B8=D0=B9 =D0=A2=D1=83=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2= =D0=B5=D1=86 wrote: > > > =20 > > > Do you know how to enable modelines in vim running from root=3F Eve= n if > > > I put =22set modeline=22 in /root/.vimrc, the output of =22:set mod= eline=3F=22 > > > still shows =22nomodeline=22. At the same time, =22set modeline=22 = in =7E/.vimrc > > > works for all other accounts except root. > > > =20 > > > Someone has protected the root account so tightly that I cannot eve= n > > > shoot myself in the leg. Do you know how I could override this > > > protection=3F > > > =20 > > =20 > > In my vimrc i have next: > > set modeline > > set modelines=3D3 > > =20 > =20 > =20 > As I said, in /root/.vimrc I have: > =20 > set modeline > set modelines=3D5 > =20 > > And it works, no matter from root or normal user. Hope this helps. > =20 > And it does not work for root. vim-7.3.556=5F1 > =20 > Surely I am doing something stupid but I cannot figure out what. > =20 > -- =20 > Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN > sip:sudakov=40sibptus.tomsk.ru (mailto:sudakov=40sibptus.tomsk.ru) > =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F > freebsd-questions=40freebsd.org (mailto:freebsd-questions=40freebsd.org= ) mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to =22freebsd-questions-unsubscribe=40fre= ebsd.org (mailto:freebsd-questions-unsubscribe=40freebsd.org)=22 > =20 > =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 03:03:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D16106566C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:03:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4FF8FC16 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:03:42 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPSA id 27668701 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 10:03:40 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6H33eaE074218 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 10:03:40 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q6H33djl074217 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 10:03:39 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 10:03:39 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120717030339.GA74052@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20120716100210.GA32860@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20120716163700.GA60274@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <91F2F4DCF7B24892B865B0A42FEFEBFB@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <91F2F4DCF7B24892B865B0A42FEFEBFB@gmail.com> Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: enable modeline in vim X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:03:43 -0000 Patrick wrote: > > > > > > > > Do you know how to enable modelines in vim running from root? Even if > > > > I put "set modeline" in /root/.vimrc, the output of ":set modeline?" > > > > still shows "nomodeline". At the same time, "set modeline" in ~/.vimrc > > > > works for all other accounts except root. > > > > > > > > Someone has protected the root account so tightly that I cannot even > > > > shoot myself in the leg. Do you know how I could override this > > > > protection? > > > > > > > > > > In my vimrc i have next: > > > set modeline > > > set modelines=3 > > > > > > > > > As I said, in /root/.vimrc I have: > > > > set modeline > > set modelines=5 > > > > > And it works, no matter from root or normal user. Hope this helps. > > > > And it does not work for root. vim-7.3.556_1 > > > > Surely I am doing something stupid but I cannot figure out what. > Assuming you've installed vim from the ports tree, > /usr/local/share/vim/vimrc is the shared vimrc file amongst all > users. Have you tried setting it in there? I have finally found the cause of the trouble. There was a "set nocompatible" command in ~/.vimrc after the "set modeline" command. According to the documentation, the "compatible" option modifies many other options, including the "modeline" options. The solution is to put the "set nocompatible" command at the very start of the ~/.vimrc file (as the documentation recommends) or to remove it altogether. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 03:32:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 778271065672 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:32:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16DC58FC0A for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:32:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q6H3Y5fr019116 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:34:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:34:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201207170334.q6H3Y5fr019116@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:32:48 -0000 ` > Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:03:37 -0500 > From: Adam Vande More > Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? > > > SpinWrong is a scam, Gibson is a fraud, and this conversation is pure > marketing gibberish. I thought most had overcome this credulity years ago. > It appears I was mistaken. "Everyone has the inalienable right to be wrong." Far be it from me to attempt to impair your exercise of your rights.` From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 03:40:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 349E91065672 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:40:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8EC78FC1E for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:40:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q6H3fIvM019246 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:41:18 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:41:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201207170341.q6H3fIvM019246@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:40:01 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 16 12:12:47 2012 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:10:34 -0500 > From: Mark Felder > Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? > > On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 09:04:31 -0500, Robert Bonomi > wrote: > > > This is *precisely* why dd is _grossly_inferior_ to professional-grade > > tools like Spinrite. > > I bet you are a big fan of homeopathic treatments too, aren't you? Homepoathic treatments are extremely effective. ... at demonstrating the placebo effect. *GRIN* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 03:43:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 592E4106566C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:43:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C16D08FC0A for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:43:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q6H3cRkJ086616; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 23:38:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 23:38:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill To: Adam Vande More In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <201207161404.q6GE4VrC001138@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20120716115022.68940af1@scorpio> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:43:10 -0000 On Mon, 16 Jul 2012, Adam Vande More wrote: > SpinWrong is a scam, Gibson is a fraud, and this conversation is pure > marketing gibberish. I thought most had overcome this credulity years > ago. It appears I was mistaken. Care to elaborate? Most people on this list seem to speak highly of SpinRite. I'd be interested to know if they are all deluded, because I've been thinking of buying it. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 05:43:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB1F106566B for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 05:43:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC2758FC08 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 05:43:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6H5hkCh009440; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:43:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6H5hkUF009437; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:43:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:43:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Adam Vande More In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <201207161404.q6GE4VrC001138@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20120716115022.68940af1@scorpio> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:43:47 +0200 (CEST) Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 05:43:58 -0000 > SpinWrong is a scam, Gibson is a fraud, and this conversation is pure > marketing gibberish. maybe you exaggerate but this is what i feel in that discussion. instead of help - seemed like marketing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 07:59:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A991065674 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:59:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalle.moller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E058FC1E for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:59:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbun3 with SMTP id un3so288728obb.13 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 00:59:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hqU26GBe6CbJkPhOUi0VXG5VyoIZ4o83k+NoVoyd4Vc=; b=zHtF6iCRsWiFFIdV/ZqLlTB2s0hAP7zZFZ6i+0O5mJRSnsz7ulJog9NJcuy6YRJvFn eCb5e1mb1Y+ptR+TqwL6XepmHy5wAx3fYpT3AlfgXzZPjV30a5pr/p+eZ2NwwTcYanFY z3R1fIvKX7X5s6ixa2ZbYZxhnQZgZtJTb22IVxD0IQj4WFCG/PWRez0Qo7XdOop78eK/ 6wyF4rAKqmWT0mBrwcIEAvyiOZ37TAOu56pi//rtgDLZE1WMCi6BcxDt3J2GdueQeIm+ cmxYL6/em3JgN4aKq9sVQmGECk5blQ0+igAauIgGH2Xvhbewej31AMQbsgdPyyWIpw5/ wo9w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.89.102 with SMTP id bn6mr2033726obb.7.1342511970596; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 00:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Sender: kalle.moller@gmail.com Received: by 10.60.142.67 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 00:59:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <87fw8yariq.wl%h.skuhra@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:59:30 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: grHJP7hL1eaiF5tjK22fPOSCmfw Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Kalle_M=C3=B8ller?= To: "Herbert J. Skuhra" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jails on FreeBSD 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:59:31 -0000 On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Herbert J. Skuhra wro= te: > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:56 AM, joris dedieu w= rote: >> 2012/7/12 Herbert J. Skuhra : >>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:59 PM, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> although I've followed the instructions in jail(8) and jail.conf(5) I >>>> cannot manage to setup jails on FreeBSD 9.0 STABLE (r238334). >>>> >>>> The symptons: >>>> >>>> * ssh'ing to jail works, but it takes about 20 seconds until password >>>> prompt appears >> >> Does it still the same with UseDNS=3Dno in /etc/ssh/sshd_config ? > > No, I can login instantly. > >>>> * netstat -r in the jail takes about 150 seconds to finish >> >> Does netstat -rn does the same ? > > No, the output appears immediately. > >>>> * connections to the internet time out; with tcpdump I see that >>>> packets leave and enter the public interface on the host, but never >>>> reach the jail >>>> >>>> I use lo1 interface and ip address 192.168.1.1/24 for the jail. Public >>>> interface is fxp0 with both an IPv4 and an IPv6 address assigned. >>>> Of course, nat is enable via pf on the public interface. >> >> Can you post your PF configuration ? >>> >>> After switching to ipfw/natd networking in the jail works. >>> Could this be a bug? >> >> I think you had an issue with firewall that block name resolution and >> makes everything goes slow. At least you need one single line on your >> pf.conf : >> >> nat on $public_interface form $jail_ip to any -> ($public_interface) > > Even when loading only the nat rule it doesn't work: > > nat on fxp0 from 192.168.1.0/24 to any -> $ext_addr > > Thanks. > Herbert > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-jail@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" As Mark Felder wrote You don't have anything in /etc/resolv.conf, in the jail do you? :-) --=20 Med Venlig Hilsen Kalle R. M=C3=B8ller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 09:16:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2337D1065670 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:16:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corebug@corebug.net) Received: from mail-gg0-f182.google.com (mail-gg0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21318FC16 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:16:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnm2 with SMTP id m2so182269ggn.13 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 02:16:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=Ut/tbINf2YXdXwsXZbg1zJybb6Trofr+wGUpnCn0wUM=; b=FnPxSoNywfdhaJbm7UTpTpR8xFjr0mc6CBiPCuzFygWz1fvAEXROATVwRd98A3N0i1 rHG6I9X1eNIKXt86vDs9MPKJjk5S9rvSWomR/zRNN5K1WZuvFZ3tHqFOQbA7q/RMd34B dZWNbSwHk8xc+Ad2BRkstgth/thguz+7MM4B4VPjBpBNVSv9SYsP/LnRTVwzk38Drkci m5NQzl9snWZS0DHOMfdMce0s4o55tfNWcQqnWqbhaXavhPZAW4HXDp0ouWNJLYDOcDjQ Y4CMAun1WOK6REIWbMTd4IBO+R/6mYDH1mASijiw5Mnz7ASCPijhFoAppgTUWAp4CBIE 3yHQ== Received: by 10.68.194.6 with SMTP id hs6mr4735031pbc.133.1342516593270; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 02:16:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.66.255.70 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 02:16:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [95.158.3.122] From: =?UTF-8?B?0JLQuNGC0LDQu9C40Lkg0KLRg9GA0L7QstC10YY=?= Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:16:12 +0300 Message-ID: To: FreeBSD Questions List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnBXiJgyiHVEjZCwIkUS9Gbei9CTAlDnjRP6ozwwjpQsdBQEZx308iSy6Gza3zqsPm+Nfop Subject: How to donate code X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:16:35 -0000 Hello, colleagues! How would one propose some code to current branch? I've made a little change to ifconfig ( a switch to display IPv4 network masks in CIDR format instead of HEX) and want to suggest this change to FreeBSD project. Also i've created a PR with my patch describing what is done and for what (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=169072&cat=), but maybe there's some other way to somehow push this code for review by FreeBSD developers? Thank you a lot and sorry for noobish question :) -- ~~~ WBR, Vitaliy Turovets Systems Administrator Corebug.Net +38(093)265-70-55 VITU-RIPE X-NCC-RegID: ua.tv From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 09:36:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A80FE106566C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:36:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 130C08FC12 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:36:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6H9a7bL027942; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:36:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q6H9a76G027939; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:36:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:36:07 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Chris Hill In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <201207161404.q6GE4VrC001138@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20120716115022.68940af1@scorpio> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:36:08 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Adam Vande More , FreeBSD Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:36:10 -0000 >> It appears I was mistaken. > > Care to elaborate? Most people on this list seem to speak highly of SpinRite. first - it is off topic. second - because all commercial software like that are designed for uneducated user, mostly try to automatically do everything. Which is a danger not help. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 09:42:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA8B4106564A for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:42:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [94.23.254.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA0D8FC12 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:42:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (mr129166.cri.univ-rennes1.fr [129.20.129.166]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id CDCC3FAA2CCB; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:42:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mr129166 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55DE7151AC; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:42:30 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:42:30 +0200 From: Patrick Lamaiziere To: =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=92=D0=B8=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BB=D0=B8=D0=B9_=D0=A2=D1=83?= =?UTF-8?Q?=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B5=D1=86?= Message-ID: <20120717114230.5dec617f@mr129166> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: How to donate code X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:42:39 -0000 Le Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:16:12 +0300, Виталий Туровец a écrit : Hello, > Hello, colleagues! > How would one propose some code to current branch? > I've made a little change to ifconfig ( a switch to display IPv4 > network masks in CIDR format instead of HEX) and want to suggest this > change to FreeBSD project. > Also i've created a PR with my patch describing what is done and for > what (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=169072&cat=), but > maybe there's some other way to somehow push this code for review by > FreeBSD developers? You may post to freebsd-current@ or freebsd-hacker@ mailing lists. A PR is always a good thing for the record. Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 09:46:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B741065673 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:46:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from h.skuhra@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4328FC12 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:46:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhfs35 with SMTP id s35so206098yhf.13 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 02:46:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fJa0z6SS+5nQ2Uk8XyRCCfdV8C7iPPyceRieDOPrC/M=; b=ZMR+uvtW4LzcJdCuld4IOY8BbNrbD4BKChCibS3JTh5W+xbgaoVaJxN1v3iJ7wXQlO rxFkMyW/Lt1sB7qo3HbO5Sa85z7bqtBvIbr3WcxwaP1+Izx0D0ZsNvGsJ2fXQNVI5yv5 MKDt9WKqKcw1P4nWgIX7eBSy4M6pxemx849t+Ec1b+zcWyC1tdzH+RKg8GTfV/Q5TDg1 D6zUhsXk6yeH+8Hfb5koCO+TORgRV71JQeUaWKKYdaiSRnZBLrJ2SmcwoOfMyNeJ56/l u0OOA3xbXjDa0X5oWTx1LyBrp4AjOCayZxY260zEMWZZ8XuTWhR/wdfrd35CR0V7Ilqc oaxw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.66.73.40 with SMTP id i8mr4234178pav.2.1342518395003; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 02:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.239.67 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 02:46:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <87fw8yariq.wl%h.skuhra@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:46:34 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Jails on FreeBSD 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:46:36 -0000 On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Kalle M=C3=B8ller wrote: > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Herbert J. Skuhra w= rote: >> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:56 AM, joris dedieu = wrote: >>> 2012/7/12 Herbert J. Skuhra : >>>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:59 PM, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> although I've followed the instructions in jail(8) and jail.conf(5) I >>>>> cannot manage to setup jails on FreeBSD 9.0 STABLE (r238334). >>>>> >>>>> The symptons: >>>>> >>>>> * ssh'ing to jail works, but it takes about 20 seconds until password >>>>> prompt appears >>> >>> Does it still the same with UseDNS=3Dno in /etc/ssh/sshd_config ? >> >> No, I can login instantly. >> >>>>> * netstat -r in the jail takes about 150 seconds to finish >>> >>> Does netstat -rn does the same ? >> >> No, the output appears immediately. >> >>>>> * connections to the internet time out; with tcpdump I see that >>>>> packets leave and enter the public interface on the host, but never >>>>> reach the jail >>>>> >>>>> I use lo1 interface and ip address 192.168.1.1/24 for the jail. Publi= c >>>>> interface is fxp0 with both an IPv4 and an IPv6 address assigned. >>>>> Of course, nat is enable via pf on the public interface. >>> >>> Can you post your PF configuration ? >>>> >>>> After switching to ipfw/natd networking in the jail works. >>>> Could this be a bug? >>> >>> I think you had an issue with firewall that block name resolution and >>> makes everything goes slow. At least you need one single line on your >>> pf.conf : >>> >>> nat on $public_interface form $jail_ip to any -> ($public_interface) >> >> Even when loading only the nat rule it doesn't work: >> >> nat on fxp0 from 192.168.1.0/24 to any -> $ext_addr >> >> Thanks. >> Herbert > > > As Mark Felder wrote > > You don't have anything in /etc/resolv.conf, in the jail do you? :-) I have two nameservers listed! If I boot a kernel with ipfirewall/ipdivert and run natd the network in the jail works! With pf: I see the packets going out/coming in on fxp0 but somehow the jail does not "see" them. A 'dig www.google.com' in the jail fails with "connection timed out; no servers could be reached", but 11:39:45.666630 IP xxx.yyy.zzz.64452 > google-public-dns-a.google.com.domain: 10794+ A? www.google.com. (32) 11:39:45.694045 IP google-public-dns-a.google.com.domain > xxx.yyy.zzz.64452: 10794 6/0/0 CNAME www.l.google.com., A 173.194.35.177, A 173.194.35.176, A 173.194.35.179, A 173.194.35.180, A 173.194.35.178 (132) 11:39:50.667799 IP xxx.yyy.zzz.64452 > google-public-dns-a.google.com.domain: 10794+ A? www.google.com. (32) 11:39:50.687083 IP google-public-dns-a.google.com.domain > xxx.yyy.zzz.64452: 10794 6/0/0 CNAME www.l.google.com., A 173.194.35.177, A 173.194.35.178, A 173.194.35.179, A 173.194.35.180, A 173.194.35.176 (132) 11:39:55.668783 IP xxx.yyy.zzz.64452 > google-public-dns-a.google.com.domain: 10794+ A? www.google.com. (32) 11:39:55.675917 IP google-public-dns-a.google.com.domain > xxx.yyy.zzz.64452: 10794 6/0/0 CNAME www.l.google.com., A 173.194.35.180, A 173.194.35.177, A 173.194.35.179, A 173.194.35.176, A 173.194.35.178 (132) And 'nc 173.194.35.177 80': 11:41:52.176904 IP muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http > xxx.yyy.zzz.56936: Flags [S.], seq 1156402837, ack 2143442671, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1445658553 ecr 8593173,nop,wscale 6], length 0 11:41:53.382320 IP muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http > xxx.yyy.zzz.56936: Flags [S.], seq 1156402837, ack 2143442671, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1445659753 ecr 8593173,nop,wscale 6], length 0 11:41:54.088585 IP xxx.yyy.zzz.56936 > muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http: Flags [S], seq 2143442670, win 65535, options [mss 1460,nop,wscale 6,sackOK,TS val 8596173 ecr 0], length 0 11:41:54.098838 IP muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http > xxx.yyy.zzz.56936: Flags [S.], seq 1156402837, ack 2143442671, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1445660466 ecr 8593173,nop,wscale 6], length 0 11:41:55.796638 IP muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http > xxx.yyy.zzz.56936: Flags [S.], seq 1156402837, ack 2143442671, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1445662155 ecr 8593173,nop,wscale 6], length 0 11:41:57.288596 IP xxx.yyy.zzz.56936 > muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http: Flags [S], seq 2143442670, win 65535, options [mss 1460,nop,wscale 6,sackOK,TS val 8599373 ecr 0], length 0 11:41:57.299125 IP muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http > xxx.yyy.zzz.56936: Flags [S.], seq 1156402837, ack 2143442671, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1445663650 ecr 8593173,nop,wscale 6], length 0 11:42:00.488595 IP xxx.yyy.zzz.56936 > muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http: Flags [S], seq 2143442670, win 65535, options [mss 1460,sackOK,eol], length 0 11:42:00.498606 IP muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http > xxx.yyy.zzz.56936: Flags [S.], seq 1156402837, ack 2143442671, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1445666834 ecr 8593173,nop,wscale 6], length 0 11:42:00.621724 IP muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http > xxx.yyy.zzz.56936: Flags [S.], seq 1156402837, ack 2143442671, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1445666957 ecr 8593173,nop,wscale 6], length 0 11:42:03.688596 IP xxx.yyy.zzz.56936 > muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http: Flags [S], seq 2143442670, win 65535, options [mss 1460,sackOK,eol], length 0 11:42:03.698762 IP muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http > xxx.yyy.zzz.56936: Flags [S.], seq 1156402837, ack 2143442671, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1445670018 ecr 8593173,nop,wscale 6], length 0 11:42:06.888595 IP xxx.yyy.zzz.56936 > muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http: Flags [S], seq 2143442670, win 65535, options [mss 1460,sackOK,eol], length 0 11:42:06.899032 IP muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http > xxx.yyy.zzz.56936: Flags [S.], seq 1156402837, ack 2143442671, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1445673202 ecr 8593173,nop,wscale 6], length 0 11:42:13.088586 IP xxx.yyy.zzz.56936 > muc03s02-in-f17.1e100.net.http: Flags [S], seq 2143442670, win 65535, options [mss 1460,sackOK,eol], length 0 [...] % uname -rms FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE amd64 Regards, Herbert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 09:48:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BBAB106566C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:48:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D31288FC22 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:47:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Footer: b3NlLm5s Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES256-SHA (256 bits)) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:47:52 +0200 Message-ID: <500534A2.40802@ose.nl> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:47:14 +0200 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201207161404.q6GE4VrC001138@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20120716115022.68940af1@scorpio> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:48:00 -0000 On 07/17/2012 11:36 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> It appears I was mistaken. >> >> Care to elaborate? Most people on this list seem to speak highly of >> SpinRite. > > first - it is off topic. > second - because all commercial software like that are designed for > uneducated user, mostly try to automatically do everything. Which is a > danger not help. Hi This is an old story. You can look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpinRite and the talk page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3ASpinRite http://allthatiswrong.wordpress.com/2009/10/11/steve-gibson-is-a-fraud/ I have never used this "tool" because dd has always sufficed. Even with an almost end of hardware life (takketaketakke noise generating) disk I have been able to create an image (even with hitting the disk case because heads got stuck) and rescue data from it with plain dd. 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l13sm16560216ann.2.2012.07.17.04.01.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 17 Jul 2012 04:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3Wbz8141lvz2CG62 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:01:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:01:37 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120717070137.59574505@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <201207161404.q6GE4VrC001138@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20120716115022.68940af1@scorpio> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlgJppb+vPM6yRFk0QTJtTuIyPiEbWOdOVDqbjh7XMDElinhzkUjllj6jhZ9e9BCTllashr Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:01:41 -0000 On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:36:07 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar articulated: > >> It appears I was mistaken. > > > > Care to elaborate? Most people on this list seem to speak highly of > > SpinRite. > > first - it is off topic. > second - because all commercial software like that are designed for > uneducated user, mostly try to automatically do everything. Which is > a danger not help. I love reading your posts first thing in the morning Wojciech. After having read them I have assured myself that I cannot possible read anything more asinine for the rest of the day. Your replies are as sour as verjuice and of even less usefulness. To call you an incorrigible malcontent would be to simply state the obvious. Your spiel is abstruse, rarely on topic and totally self serving. You continue to cast aspersions and heap maledictions upon any who dare to disagree with you. Quite frankly, your postings are about as useful as "tits on a bull". It is with great pleasure that I am creating a kill filter to bounce anymore such mail from you that I should be so unfortunate as to receive. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 11:50:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C34C2106566B for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:50:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 635D68FC0C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:50:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q6HBpq8a039504 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 06:51:52 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 06:51:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201207171151.q6HBpq8a039504@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:50:34 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 16 01:17:33 2012 > Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:15:13 +0200 (CEST) > From: Wojciech Puchar > To: Polytropon > Cc: FreeBSD > Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem? > > > read attempts. In worst case, there will be "gaps" in the > > result. > > > >Surely SpinRite is "more clever" than that, > i would bet otherwise. simple tools and free tools are always better You continue to demonsteate that you "don't know what you don't know". From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 11:56:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FA71065677 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:56:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee (kuller.raad.tartu.ee [213.184.43.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD038FC1F for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:56:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AFC63981F for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:56:15 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at post.raad.tartu.ee Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (kuller.raad.tartu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Z0K9boKwUcDf for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:56:14 +0300 (EEST) Received: by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (Postfix, from userid 80) id 9EED139830; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:56:13 +0300 (EEST) Received: from 96.67.235.80.dyn.estpak.ee (96.67.235.80.dyn.estpak.ee [80.235.67.96]) by webmail.raad.tartu.ee (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:56:13 +0300 Message-ID: <20120717145613.20783z1jrv0xapyc@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:56:13 +0300 From: Toomas Aas To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.7) X-Originating-IP: 80.235.67.96 Cc: Subject: "Twitter.com is loading slowly" after updating to Firefox 13.0.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:56:22 -0000 Hello! I'm having this problem on two different computers, one running 8.3-STABLE and the other running 9.0-STABLE. After updating Firefox from 12.0 to 13.0.1, whenever I access twitter.com, I can log in but after that a message appears saying that "Twitter.com is loading slowly", and the site is practically unusable - clicking on any of the links has no effect. Various support sites say that this may be a problem with Firefox extensions or plugins, or some difficult-to-find problem which may be worked around by clearing cache and cookies, or trying with a new Firefox profile. For testing, I have disabled all extensions and plugins. I have also tried moving my ~/.mozilla directory out of the way so that new empty profile is created. None of this has helped. The fact that this is happening on two totally different machines is leading me to think that maybe this is some peculiarity in a way that Firefox is compiled on FreeBSD, so I decided to ask if anyone else is seeing this. When updating Firefox to 13.0.1, I didn't change any port configuration options from what I was using previously: cat /var/db/ports/firefox/options # This file is auto-generated by 'make config'. # Options for firefox-13.0.1,1 _FILE_COMPLETE_OPTIONS_LIST=DBUS PGO DEBUG LOGGING OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=DBUS OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=PGO OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=DEBUG OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=LOGGING OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS -- Toomas Aas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 11:59:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47021106566C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:59:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brentgclarklist@gmail.com) Received: from mail1.dur1.host-h.net (mail1.dur1.host-h.net [196.7.18.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F148FC15 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:59:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [196.7.147.49] (helo=[192.168.1.86]) by mail1.dur1.host-h.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sr6QZ-0006tt-25 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:58:55 +0200 Message-ID: <5005537E.20003@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:58:54 +0200 From: Brent Clark User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.5) Gecko/20120624 Icedove/10.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.97.3/15144/Tue Jul 17 10:52:44 2012) Cc: Subject: KVM attach drive to FreeBSD guest X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:59:04 -0000 Hiya Im running FreeNas on a KVM guest. I need to add (attach) a virtual drive. I run: qemu-img create -f qcow2 morespace.img 10G virsh: attach-disk freenas /space/morespace.img vdb I restart the FreeNas guest, but the spare drive is not shown on 'gpart list or show' To make extra sure, I did the same steps for a Debian guest. The attached drive is available. So I can only assume this is a FreeBSD issue. Anyone know how to attach a drive to a FreeBsD KVM guest? Kind Regards Brent Clark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 13:02:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD491065672 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:02:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@noos.larseighner.com) Received: from emailserver2.asdf456.com (emailserver2.asdf456.com [72.18.207.139]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AFF8B8FC1A for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:02:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21471 invoked by uid 0); 17 Jul 2012 12:56:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO noos.larseighner.com) (71.20.75.102) by emailserver2.asdf456.com with SMTP; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 05:56:14 -0700 Received: by noos.larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@noos.larseighner.com; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:55:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:55:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@noos.larseighner.com To: Toomas Aas In-Reply-To: <20120717145613.20783z1jrv0xapyc@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> Message-ID: References: <20120717145613.20783z1jrv0xapyc@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Twitter.com is loading slowly" after updating to Firefox 13.0.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:02:57 -0000 On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, Toomas Aas wrote: > Hello! > > I'm having this problem on two different computers, one running 8.3-STABLE > and the other running 9.0-STABLE. After updating Firefox from 12.0 to 13.0.1, > whenever I access twitter.com, I can log in but after that a message appears > saying that "Twitter.com is loading slowly", and the site is practically > unusable - clicking on any of the links has no effect. If you do not know that there is something in firefox (now 13ish) which you must have, deinstall it and install firefox-esr (now 10ish). Apparently firefox is bleeding-edge and might better be called firefox-devel. The stable version is in firefox-esr. I haven't found anything that is mission-critical to me that is missing from esr. Everything works, except the linux-flash on flowplayer sites using js, but that is a 12ish linux-flash bug, not firefox. Sites using flowplayer without js work fine. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 13:28:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0841065673 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:28:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brentgclarklist@gmail.com) Received: from mail1.dur1.host-h.net (mail1.dur1.host-h.net [196.7.18.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED6E8FC15 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:28:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [196.7.147.49] (helo=[192.168.1.86]) by mail1.dur1.host-h.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sr7pb-0006JX-Ka for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:28:51 +0200 Message-ID: <50056892.3020502@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:28:50 +0200 From: Brent Clark User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.5) Gecko/20120624 Icedove/10.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <5005537E.20003@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5005537E.20003@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.97.3/15144/Tue Jul 17 10:52:44 2012) Cc: Subject: Re: KVM attach drive to FreeBSD guest X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:28:56 -0000 On 17/07/2012 13:58, Brent Clark wrote: > virsh: > attach-disk freenas /space/morespace.img vdb Hiya After much googling, I found the following on libvirt mailinglist (http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-November/msg00796.html) So the command is virsh: attach-disk freenas /space/morespace.img sdb (as opposed to vdb) HTH Regards Brent Clark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 14:10:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F8A1065672 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:10:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (mail1.sourcehosting.net [74.205.51.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF048FC15 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:10:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 24-181-237-39.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([24.181.237.39] helo=Gregory-Larkins-iMac.local) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.73 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Sr88b-000Pos-FM; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:48:34 -0400 Received: from Gregory-Larkins-iMac.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Gregory-Larkins-iMac.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8494C1408CE1; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:48:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <50056D2C.7050508@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:48:28 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Toomas Aas References: <20120717145613.20783z1jrv0xapyc@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> In-Reply-To: <20120717145613.20783z1jrv0xapyc@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.3 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 24.181.237.39 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: glarkin@FreeBSD.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mail1.sourcehosting.net X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_PBL, RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL, RDNS_DYNAMIC, TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=no version=3.3.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail1.sourcehosting.net) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Twitter.com is loading slowly" after updating to Firefox 13.0.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:10:25 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 7/17/12 7:56 AM, Toomas Aas wrote: > Hello! > > I'm having this problem on two different computers, one running > 8.3-STABLE and the other running 9.0-STABLE. After updating Firefox > from 12.0 to 13.0.1, whenever I access twitter.com, I can log in > but after that a message appears saying that "Twitter.com is > loading slowly", and the site is practically unusable - clicking on > any of the links has no effect. > > Various support sites say that this may be a problem with Firefox > extensions or plugins, or some difficult-to-find problem which may > be worked around by clearing cache and cookies, or trying with a > new Firefox profile. > > For testing, I have disabled all extensions and plugins. I have > also tried moving my ~/.mozilla directory out of the way so that > new empty profile is created. None of this has helped. The fact > that this is happening on two totally different machines is leading > me to think that maybe this is some peculiarity in a way that > Firefox is compiled on FreeBSD, so I decided to ask if anyone else > is seeing this. > > When updating Firefox to 13.0.1, I didn't change any port > configuration options from what I was using previously: cat > /var/db/ports/firefox/options # This file is auto-generated by > 'make config'. # Options for firefox-13.0.1,1 > _FILE_COMPLETE_OPTIONS_LIST=DBUS PGO DEBUG LOGGING > OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=DBUS OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=PGO > OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=DEBUG OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=LOGGING > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS > Hi Toomas, I ran into this problem with FF13 on OS X over the weekend, and I fixed it with a suggestion I found somewhere online: Open the about:config preference pane in FF. Change the http.keep-alive property to "true", and you should be all set. Hope that helps, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/cpucycle/ - Follow you, follow me -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlAFbSwACgkQ0sRouByUApCeEACfbPTah7xWhOUs/KaVp+1Ro409 ryQAoJSPTTfYdrL7UV7NtxvL+egZXnqF =BAb3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 14:41:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D661F106566B for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:41:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=5384dbffd=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-001.utdallas.edu (ip-001.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A91C68FC17 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:41:48 +0000 (UTC) X-Group: None X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtsEAPV4BVCBbgogTmdsb2JhbABFqjGPOQEBg0wCgWMaiCCbWoZOmwuRJ2ADiEuOBJFz X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,603,1336366800"; d="scan'208";a="101808275" Received: from zxtm01.utdallas.edu (HELO [129.110.200.11]) ([129.110.10.32]) by ip-001.utdallas.edu with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 17 Jul 2012 09:40:41 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:40:39 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: FreeBSD Questions List Message-ID: <35DA07557A36800645B39187@localhost> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.1.0a1 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; size=1064 Subject: Apache vs. nginx X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:41:48 -0000 I'm the admin for a small hobby website (Stovebolt.com - about 7 million hits/mo). We're fixin to buy a new server, and since I have to start from scratch (install FreeBSD and all the needed ports), I'm wondering if anyone on this list has switched from Apache to nginx. If you have, what has your experience been like? Was the change relatively easy? (I'm not intimidated by technical details. I've been running FreeBSD on these servers for about 12 years now.) Was the performance better? (We've not been having any problems with Apache to this point.) Is there sufficient support from addon apps to run a site with a php-driven forum? -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 14:47:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D633106566B for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:47:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from h.skuhra@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8A78FC16 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:47:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so998727pbb.13 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:47:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=2J4uSrIehn31PVlHQCrNipgBPunerRLFiMKIuf871fs=; b=hLoNC6uhsTecw9RlhHuAWoNXXBjmLysrnOa4dOQics1c9alQaeWLTpQXceTTBibFlC 9waZuEZuUzifHYt3K4dgnKgEIud9RyoJIPWbuc0NNHz3gVfIFtlJ4Xm1Wz3w8NC7raE0 XRyGm+kLFemH95rLoXSWgf2cltQda/CNRzHnr1UmFW+uD45peBnII8mBb1Nw7/0o5amb U+L98CiQmJAqYKcMxmSVzdAUUYy4OlyV26TSps0sG9vtj8ai3yjBbnTUaarww6Z3UZ0a ukuGncsr7cJxv2arDlWqSJRvMCZloHOVOJgClOEpXVcsiSWFOvHRe2Kfbj8Sfkj+cAE6 MrMg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.213.67 with SMTP id nq3mr6928689pbc.142.1342536438153; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.239.67 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:47:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <87fw8yariq.wl%h.skuhra@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:47:17 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: Jails on FreeBSD 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:47:18 -0000 On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > With pf: > > I see the packets going out/coming in on fxp0 but somehow the jail > does not "see" them. Running 'nc 173.194.35.177 80" 'pfctl -ss' shows: all tcp xx.xxx.xx.xxx:54724 (192.168.1.1:30177) -> 173.194.35.177:80 ESTABLISHED:SYN_SENT tcpdump on pflog0 shows : 16:32:28.489495 rule 11..16777216/0(match): pass out on fxp0: xx.xxx.xx.xxx.54724 > 173.194.35.177.80: Flags [S], seq 3219071188, win 65535, options [mss 1460,nop,wscale 6,sackOK,TS val 13114581 ecr 0], length 0 16:32:28.499804 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat in on fxp0: 173.194.35.177.80 > 192.168.1.1.30177: Flags [S.], seq 3667423105, ack 3219071189, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1463073042 ecr 13114581,nop,wscale 6], length 0 16:32:28.893420 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat in on fxp0: 173.194.35.177.80 > 192.168.1.1.30177: Flags [S.], seq 3667423105, ack 3219071189, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1463073436 ecr 13114581,nop,wscale 6], length 0 16:32:29.494073 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat in on fxp0: 173.194.35.177.80 > 192.168.1.1.30177: Flags [S.], seq 3667423105, ack 3219071189, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1463074036 ecr 13114581,nop,wscale 6], length 0 16:32:30.695744 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat in on fxp0: 173.194.35.177.80 > 192.168.1.1.30177: Flags [S.], seq 3667423105, ack 3219071189, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1463075237 ecr 13114581,nop,wscale 6], length 0 16:32:31.489462 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat out on fxp0: xx.xxx.xx.xxx.54724 > 173.194.35.177.80: Flags [S], seq 3219071188, win 65535, options [mss 1460,nop,wscale 6,sackOK,TS val 13117581 ecr 0], length 0 16:32:31.500226 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat in on fxp0: 173.194.35.177.80 > 192.168.1.1.30177: Flags [S.], seq 3667423105, ack 3219071189, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1463076040 ecr 13114581,nop,wscale 6], length 0 16:32:33.098531 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat in on fxp0: 173.194.35.177.80 > 192.168.1.1.30177: Flags [S.], seq 3667423105, ack 3219071189, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1463077639 ecr 13114581,nop,wscale 6], length 0 16:32:34.689460 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat out on fxp0: xx.xxx.xx.xxx.54724 > 173.194.35.177.80: Flags [S], seq 3219071188, win 65535, options [mss 1460,nop,wscale 6,sackOK,TS val 13120781 ecr 0], length 0 16:32:34.699834 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat in on fxp0: 173.194.35.177.80 > 192.168.1.1.30177: Flags [S.], seq 3667423105, ack 3219071189, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1463079239 ecr 13114581,nop,wscale 6], length 0 16:32:37.889462 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat out on fxp0: xx.xxx.xx.xxx.54724 > 173.194.35.177.80: Flags [S], seq 3219071188, win 65535, options [mss 1460,sackOK,eol], length 0 16:32:37.899648 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat in on fxp0: 173.194.35.177.80 > 192.168.1.1.30177: Flags [S.], seq 3667423105, ack 3219071189, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1463082437 ecr 13114581,nop,wscale 6], length 0 16:32:37.906102 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat in on fxp0: 173.194.35.177.80 > 192.168.1.1.30177: Flags [S.], seq 3667423105, ack 3219071189, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1463082444 ecr 13114581,nop,wscale 6], length 0 16:32:41.089474 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat out on fxp0: xx.xxx.xx.xxx.54724 > 173.194.35.177.80: Flags [S], seq 3219071188, win 65535, options [mss 1460,sackOK,eol], length 0 16:32:41.100282 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat in on fxp0: 173.194.35.177.80 > 192.168.1.1.30177: Flags [S.], seq 3667423105, ack 3219071189, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1463085636 ecr 13114581,nop,wscale 6], length 0 16:32:44.289462 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat out on fxp0: xx.xxx.xx.xxx.54724 > 173.194.35.177.80: Flags [S], seq 3219071188, win 65535, options [mss 1460,sackOK,eol], length 0 16:32:44.300060 rule 0..16777216/0(match): nat in on fxp0: 173.194.35.177.80 > 192.168.1.1.30177: Flags [S.], seq 3667423105, ack 3219071189, win 14180, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1463088834 ecr 13114581,nop,wscale 6], length 0 What's wrong? In the meantime I've found kern/164271. Regards, Herbert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 14:59:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEBBA106564A; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:59:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77DBD8FC14; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:59:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6HEqkjL074591; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:52:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <50057C3E.1030409@qeng-ho.org> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:52:46 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120626 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org References: <20120717145613.20783z1jrv0xapyc@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> <50056D2C.7050508@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <50056D2C.7050508@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: "Twitter.com is loading slowly" after updating to Firefox 13.0.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:59:20 -0000 On 07/17/12 14:48, Greg Larkin wrote: > On 7/17/12 7:56 AM, Toomas Aas wrote: >> I'm having this problem on two different computers, one running >> 8.3-STABLE and the other running 9.0-STABLE. After updating Firefox >> from 12.0 to 13.0.1, whenever I access twitter.com, I can log in >> but after that a message appears saying that "Twitter.com is >> loading slowly", and the site is practically unusable - clicking on >> any of the links has no effect. >> >> Various support sites say that this may be a problem with Firefox >> extensions or plugins, or some difficult-to-find problem which may >> be worked around by clearing cache and cookies, or trying with a >> new Firefox profile. >> >> For testing, I have disabled all extensions and plugins. I have >> also tried moving my ~/.mozilla directory out of the way so that >> new empty profile is created. None of this has helped. The fact >> that this is happening on two totally different machines is leading >> me to think that maybe this is some peculiarity in a way that >> Firefox is compiled on FreeBSD, so I decided to ask if anyone else >> is seeing this. >> >> When updating Firefox to 13.0.1, I didn't change any port >> configuration options from what I was using previously: cat >> /var/db/ports/firefox/options # This file is auto-generated by >> 'make config'. # Options for firefox-13.0.1,1 >> _FILE_COMPLETE_OPTIONS_LIST=DBUS PGO DEBUG LOGGING >> OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=DBUS OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=PGO >> OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=DEBUG OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=LOGGING >> OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS >> > > Hi Toomas, > > I ran into this problem with FF13 on OS X over the weekend, and I > fixed it with a suggestion I found somewhere online: > > Open the about:config preference pane in FF. Change the > http.keep-alive property to "true", and you should be all set. > > Hope that helps, My FF 13.0.1 shows true as the default state for network.http.keep_alive From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 15:19:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CABDB106564A for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:19:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [IPv6:2001:470:28:38a::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A54A8FC08 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:19:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.liukuma.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99CBF1CC2C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:19:16 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net 99CBF1CC2C DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=liukuma.net; s=liukudkim; t=1342538356; bh=aU8Hdd3mqJEHephAiE3aCqnn39GnqNtefhn3zcd82bg=; h=Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; z=X-Virus-Scanned:=20amavisd-new=20at=20liukuma.net|X-DKIM:=20Sendm ail=20DKIM=20Filter=20v2.8.3=20www.liukuma.net=20024FB1CC2B|Messag e-ID:=20|From:=20"Reko =20Turja"=20|To:=20 |Subject:=20Ports=20building=20automatically=20with=20default=20op tions?|Date:=20Tue,=2017=20Jul=202012=2018:19:01=20+0300|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|Content-Type:=20text/plain=3B=0D=0A=09format=3Dflowed=3 B=0D=0A=09charset=3D"utf-8"=3B=0D=0A=09reply-type=3Doriginal|Conte nt-Transfer-Encoding:=207bit|X-Priority:=203|X-MSMail-Priority:=20 Normal|Importance:=20Normal|X-Mailer:=20Microsoft=20Windows=20Live =20Mail=2015.4.3555.308|X-MimeOLE:=20Produced=20By=20Microsoft=20M imeOLE=20V15.4.3555.308; b=GHE/EbkwCRLw3M5H99pmM+e1XG3M81W72Qw4fakSKo6l2m5h7dt60lp05aztfeh4W LALzmKVIDaD6R+WGoq9pKBC3Hvxkx1IW8EATaXpckGNKB9Fh+/GPymWH5Th9zz2ar2 t/XMeOQMV3A4jPmiOYAv5/Fc1+3y/t1BrG173nIk= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at liukuma.net Received: from www.liukuma.net ([127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id KGSg59WESrPx for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:19:13 +0300 (EEST) Received: from Rivendell (dsl-kmibrasgw1-fe47de00-175.dhcp.inet.fi [80.222.71.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: ignatz@www.liukuma.net) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 024FB1CC2B for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:19:12 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net 024FB1CC2B Message-ID: From: "Reko Turja" To: Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:19:01 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 Cc: Subject: Ports building automatically with default options? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:19:25 -0000 I just installed new 9.0 machine from scratch, cvsupped ports, fetched index and started building portupgrade. Both perl and ruby built with default options, without running config. No changes in port building steps nor workaround for this POLA violation anywhere in the UPDATING etc. as far as I could see. Is there workarounds or information how to get ports building the old way with asking options? -Reko From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 15:36:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DDA4106566C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:36:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B7388FC19 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:36:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.53]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EBF3A70F3E for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:36:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32448 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2012 15:36:26 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 29209, pid: 3932, t: 0.3058s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:13495 Received: from unknown (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Jul 2012 15:36:26 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98A9633C23; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:36:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 66A6D3984C; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:36:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: "Reko Turja" References: Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:36:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Reko Turja's message of "Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:19:01 +0300") Message-ID: <44ipdm4cy4.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Ports building automatically with default options? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:36:33 -0000 "Reko Turja" writes: > I just installed new 9.0 machine from scratch, cvsupped ports, fetched > index and started building portupgrade. Both perl and ruby built with > default options, without running config. No changes in port building > steps nor workaround for this POLA violation anywhere in the UPDATING > etc. as far as I could see. > > Is there workarounds or information how to get ports building the old > way with asking options? The defaults haven't changed, so something must have happened locally. Check whether you've got BATCH defined in make.conf, and whether /var/db/ports contains configurations for those ports. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 15:48:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E2D106564A for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:48:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [IPv6:2001:470:28:38a::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9769A8FC1D for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:48:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.liukuma.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6DD1CC2C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:48:07 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net 9D6DD1CC2C DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=liukuma.net; s=liukudkim; t=1342540087; bh=6/k4AjR6t6plIVivBQ90fCbDg9jtzX5vQ2I+PCc3mhg=; h=Message-ID:From:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; z=X-Virus-Scanned:=20amavisd-new=20at=20liukuma.net|X-DKIM:=20Sendm ail=20DKIM=20Filter=20v2.8.3=20www.liukuma.net=20CC62F1CC2B|Messag e-ID:=20<9B4C537601E64EE1BD4C8FC6C5CEFDCE@Rivendell>|From:=20"Reko =20Turja"=20|To:=20 |Cc:=20|References:=20=20<44ipdm4cy4.fsf@lowell-desk.lan>|In-Repl y-To:=20<44ipdm4cy4.fsf@lowell-desk.lan>|Subject:=20Re:=20Ports=20 building=20automatically=20with=20default=20options?|Date:=20Tue,= 2017=20Jul=202012=2018:48:02=20+0300|MIME-Version:=201.0|Content-T ype:=20text/plain=3B=0D=0A=09format=3Dflowed=3B=0D=0A=09charset=3D "iso-8859-1"=3B=0D=0A=09reply-type=3Doriginal|Content-Transfer-Enc oding:=207bit|X-Priority:=203|X-MSMail-Priority:=20Normal|Importan ce:=20Normal|X-Mailer:=20Microsoft=20Windows=20Live=20Mail=2015.4. 3555.308|X-MimeOLE:=20Produced=20By=20Microsoft=20MimeOLE=20V15.4. 3555.308; b=Ea4q2U4Ha+e4bVTlUMUUi3GP6EAyAzo8mRVUFxOeAcjwkTkQKWDByw/o2A6zBSAP+ +cC2Xp+MExodVPNuhaLITaJPkPXF0qHVcAyxBglCJJEPpO6MBVXVBUv5DIKfV5iPcG 0ZjOHjhRoZDmnfq9pqiY8sKXtiaiLhe0J3C2OTqY= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at liukuma.net Received: from www.liukuma.net ([127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id YB5vlSk0mAQU for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:48:04 +0300 (EEST) Received: from Rivendell (dsl-kmibrasgw1-fe47de00-175.dhcp.inet.fi [80.222.71.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: ignatz@www.liukuma.net) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CC62F1CC2B; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:48:03 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net CC62F1CC2B Message-ID: <9B4C537601E64EE1BD4C8FC6C5CEFDCE@Rivendell> From: "Reko Turja" To: References: <44ipdm4cy4.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> In-Reply-To: <44ipdm4cy4.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:48:02 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Ports building automatically with default options? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:48:09 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: Lowell Gilbert > The defaults haven't changed, so something must have happened locally. > Check whether you've got BATCH defined in make.conf, and whether > /var/db/ports contains configurations for those ports. That's the strange thing... Virgin system, just updated ports tree and index & started building. No knobs in make.conf and /var/db/ports is empty... I wonder if there's some kind of hickup going on at cvsup.se.freebsd.org... -Reko From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 15:51:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8EDE106566B for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:51:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60B988FC0C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:51:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lbon10 with SMTP id n10so1044697lbo.13 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:51:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=t29+d5RkcV2znCfxRUD5bbBS9rmDyc1cRo/ZlQUpX14=; b=VxiUid86dbpcSpgp5zt1a0/IjxEkjfthvZf+tKEkWLEiv1n6f3vFOnbD/pjjp6Yagk mkJEZcyTaCjvuojUxpLXwVCCSMfdYowgBUG1bXnWZpcSIFm0I4LJ0xpal2T+LkyTOIg9 SMTuLrkGQ/kUWzKZOaQz5GpztrK1ipZATpWdHNq7JV/J9NYPagoKwkUPmJJhr6lkXusv LVwaisUNYGdQNeZvIP3vnnDFNU7vPjlenuArusGrDs/rj342ut8KiAFJvpEudobTzXnQ tIhONOn6GulNqS/rCTwwlDHUmSInBCiyq+8yno5vJwERRypu7DeCYU3w0NV1Oz3MgTxJ Dl1w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.113.199 with SMTP id ja7mr3239120lab.10.1342540264014; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:51:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.24.131 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:51:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9B4C537601E64EE1BD4C8FC6C5CEFDCE@Rivendell> References: <44ipdm4cy4.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <9B4C537601E64EE1BD4C8FC6C5CEFDCE@Rivendell> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:51:03 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= To: Reko Turja Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports building automatically with default options? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:51:06 -0000 On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Reko Turja wrote: > -----Original Message----- From: Lowell Gilbert > > >> The defaults haven't changed, so something must have happened locally. >> Check whether you've got BATCH defined in make.conf, and whether >> /var/db/ports contains configurations for those ports. > > > That's the strange thing... Virgin system, just updated ports tree and index > & started building. No knobs in make.conf and /var/db/ports is empty... Strange really... Did you see a message like "Found saved configuration for $port"? Did you try to see what happens if you run "make rmconfig" on those ports? > > I wonder if there's some kind of hickup going on at cvsup.se.freebsd.org... > > -Reko > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 15:53:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25AF61065672; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:53:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee (kuller.raad.tartu.ee [213.184.43.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1E148FC0A; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:53:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681D93984C; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:53:38 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at post.raad.tartu.ee Received: from kuller.raad.tartu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (kuller.raad.tartu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id mZLthYkPRuU1; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:53:37 +0300 (EEST) Received: by kuller.raad.tartu.ee (Postfix, from userid 80) id 092D639832; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:53:37 +0300 (EEST) Received: from 96.67.235.80.dyn.estpak.ee (96.67.235.80.dyn.estpak.ee [80.235.67.96]) by webmail.raad.tartu.ee (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:53:36 +0300 Message-ID: <20120717185336.202575de6h1c178c@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:53:36 +0300 From: Toomas Aas To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org References: <20120717145613.20783z1jrv0xapyc@webmail.raad.tartu.ee> <50056D2C.7050508@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <50056D2C.7050508@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.7) X-Originating-IP: 80.235.67.96 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Twitter.com is loading slowly" after updating to Firefox 13.0.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:53:40 -0000 Hello Greg! > I ran into this problem with FF13 on OS X over the weekend, and I > fixed it with a suggestion I found somewhere online: > > Open the about:config preference pane in FF. Change the > http.keep-alive property to "true", and you should be all set. Thanks for the suggestion. I actually saw this recommendation while searching for solution, but in my case network.http.keep-alive was already set to true. Another suggestion was to set 'network.http.spdy.enabled' to 'false', which I did, but this also didn't help. -- Toomas Aas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 15:56:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482C6106566B for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:56:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14EEA8FC0C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:56:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.50]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AFB7A700B7 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:56:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 2060 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2012 15:56:22 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 2237, pid: 32426, t: 0.1518s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 Received: from unknown (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Jul 2012 15:56:22 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5412733C23; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:56:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id CAE5E3984C; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:56:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: "Reko Turja" References: <44ipdm4cy4.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <9B4C537601E64EE1BD4C8FC6C5CEFDCE@Rivendell> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:56:16 -0400 In-Reply-To: <9B4C537601E64EE1BD4C8FC6C5CEFDCE@Rivendell> (Reko Turja's message of "Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:48:02 +0300") Message-ID: <44ehoa4c0v.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Ports building automatically with default options? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:56:24 -0000 "Reko Turja" writes: > -----Original Message----- > From: Lowell Gilbert > >> The defaults haven't changed, so something must have happened locally. >> Check whether you've got BATCH defined in make.conf, and whether >> /var/db/ports contains configurations for those ports. > > That's the strange thing... Virgin system, just updated ports tree and > index & started building. No knobs in make.conf and /var/db/ports is > empty... Strange indeed. What does "make config" do on this system? Maybe you have something in your environment? > I wonder if there's some kind of hickup going on at cvsup.se.freebsd.org... I can't think of anything along those lines which would explain these symptoms. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 16:19:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F8DC1065674 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:19:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [IPv6:2001:470:28:38a::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B90388FC19 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:19:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.liukuma.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57FF01CC2C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:19:45 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net 57FF01CC2C DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=liukuma.net; s=liukudkim; t=1342541985; bh=40YxpMQdJbMMD4BaWT7ctlr/aXn1vasm1Q7hKbJZa8Y=; h=Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; z=X-Virus-Scanned:=20amavisd-new=20at=20liukuma.net|X-DKIM:=20Sendm ail=20DKIM=20Filter=20v2.8.3=20www.liukuma.net=208E2411CC2B|Messag e-ID:=20|From:=20"Reko =20Turja"=20|To:=20 |References:=20<44ipdm 4cy4.fsf@lowell-desk.lan><9B4C537601E64EE1BD4C8FC6C5CEFDCE@Rivende ll>=20|In-Reply-To:=20|Subject:=20Re:=20Ports=20building=20aut omatically=20with=20default=20options?|Date:=20Tue,=2017=20Jul=202 012=2019:19:38=20+0300|MIME-Version:=201.0|Content-Type:=20text/pl ain=3B=0D=0A=09format=3Dflowed=3B=0D=0A=09charset=3D"iso-8859-1"=3 B=0D=0A=09reply-type=3Doriginal|Content-Transfer-Encoding:=208bit| X-Priority:=203|X-MSMail-Priority:=20Normal|Importance:=20Normal|X -Mailer:=20Microsoft=20Windows=20Live=20Mail=2015.4.3555.308|X-Mim eOLE:=20Produced=20By=20Microsoft=20MimeOLE=20V15.4.3555.308; b=WGxyRku9DAqR+VDmuh/F2dcdjQBc/xQnrCg59yGGCUP+jp0v/h+QsoNFEUq6WJ2Go /COSDxHCsuP+YPMV4/smK9bqyautJf1stZM1+WfokJIwdNYjbSdoOCumk2rp49cKdk wL1rgjGCzn9z4KehFHbQvju7TXvXTxhHV/Y9A3ZU= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at liukuma.net Received: from www.liukuma.net ([127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id mmGx3LF6WfMk for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:19:39 +0300 (EEST) Received: from Rivendell (dsl-kmibrasgw1-fe47de00-175.dhcp.inet.fi [80.222.71.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: ignatz@www.liukuma.net) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8E2411CC2B for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:19:39 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net 8E2411CC2B Message-ID: From: "Reko Turja" To: References: <44ipdm4cy4.fsf@lowell-desk.lan><9B4C537601E64EE1BD4C8FC6C5CEFDCE@Rivendell> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:19:38 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 Cc: Subject: Re: Ports building automatically with default options? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:19:47 -0000 From: Fernando Apesteguía > Did you see a message like "Found saved configuration for $port"? On perl, which I configured manually, but on others please see later in the message. > Did you try to see what happens if you run "make rmconfig" on those ports? ===> No user-specified options configured for ruby-1.8.7.370,1 > From: Lowell Gilbert > Strange indeed. What does "make config" do on this system? Opens dialog & saves config as intended > Maybe you have something in your environment? Environment seems to be vanilla. Seems like building skips config step altogether, or not echoing about it at least: ---> Reinstalling 'ruby-1.8.7.370,1' (lang/ruby18) ---> Building '/usr/ports/lang/ruby18' ===> Cleaning for ruby-1.8.7.370,1 ===> Extracting for ruby-1.8.7.370,1 => SHA256 Checksum OK for ruby/ruby-1.8.7-p370.tar.bz2. /bin/mv /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.7-p370/ext/dl/h2rb /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.7-p370/bin/ ===> Patching for ruby-1.8.7.370,1 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for ruby-1.8.7.370,1 /bin/rm -rf /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.7-p370/ext/Win32API /bin/rm -rf /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.7-p370/ext/win32ole /bin/mv /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.7-p370/ext/gdbm /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ /bin/mv /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.7-p370/ext/iconv /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ /bin/mv /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.7-p370/ext/tk /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ ===> ruby-1.8.7.370,1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/automake-1.12 - found ===> ruby-1.8.7.370,1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf-2.69 - found ===> Configuring for ruby-1.8.7.370,1 /usr/bin/touch /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.7-p370/configure checking build system type... i386-portbld-freebsd9 portupgrade -afc skips config step as well portupgrade -afC gives the dialogs Ghost in the machine? :D -Reko From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 16:32:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBACF106566C for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:32:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakub_lach@mailplus.pl) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B7E8FC24 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:32:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SrAhR-0003XT-Oo for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:32:37 -0700 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:32:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Lach To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1342542757760-5727668.post@n5.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Nasty reference loop in login.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:32:44 -0000 It's my fault. I'm running 9-STABLE. During mergemaster run, I forgot to add localised settings to login.conf. No problem I thought, then I edited login.conf by hand before running /usr/bin/cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf. By sloppy paste, I accidentally created :tc=default: loop in default:\. Now, of course I cannot login as anybody nor use sudo. e.g. login_getclass: 'tc=' reference loop 'root' su: pam_acct_mgmt: error in service module sudo: login_getclass: 'tc=' reference loop 'default' Moreover I'm afraid to power down machine, as currently I'm logged as wheel group user, and I'm not sure if change from :passwd_format=md5:\ to :passwd_format=sha512:\ didn't complicate it further... Currently all my solutions would require to power down machine, which I'm afraid to do frankly. 1. Hope I can still log in single user mode and correct /etc/login.conf? I'm afraid of md5 -> sha512 change. 2. Use some LiveCD and correct login.conf, then run /usr/bin/cap_mkdb . Has anybody have other ideas? -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Nasty-reference-loop-in-login-conf-tp5727668.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 16:46:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE271065673 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:46:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [77.86.213.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95A08FC14 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:46:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.liukuma.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B2D81CC2C; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:46:05 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net 3B2D81CC2C DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=liukuma.net; s=liukudkim; t=1342543565; bh=RKgctRK4F91UmDlCWTOY4vczieHZUvx/aojhc9Acj14=; h=Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; z=X-Virus-Scanned:=20amavisd-new=20at=20liukuma.net|X-DKIM:=20Sendm ail=20DKIM=20Filter=20v2.8.3=20www.liukuma.net=2042CDB1CC2B|Messag e-ID:=20<66A1E803E2F9438B85C65B3783D9FD7E@Rivendell>|From:=20"Reko =20Turja"=20|To:=20"Jakub=20Lach"=20,=0D=0A=09|Refere nces:=20<1342542757760-5727668.post@n5.nabble.com>|In-Reply-To:=20 <1342542757760-5727668.post@n5.nabble.com>|Subject:=20Re:=20Nasty= 20reference=20loop=20in=20login.conf|Date:=20Tue,=2017=20Jul=20201 2=2019:45:59=20+0300|MIME-Version:=201.0|Content-Type:=20text/plai n=3B=0D=0A=09format=3Dflowed=3B=0D=0A=09charset=3D"iso-8859-1"=3B= 0D=0A=09reply-type=3Doriginal|Content-Transfer-Encoding:=207bit|X- Priority:=203|X-MSMail-Priority:=20Normal|Importance:=20Normal|X-M ailer:=20Microsoft=20Windows=20Live=20Mail=2015.4.3555.308|X-MimeO LE:=20Produced=20By=20Microsoft=20MimeOLE=20V15.4.3555.308; b=MX9+NGF10emg8m+CqJ1eCIrRgLBHlqd6ycIiJ7zS5tX5TBwLau0VBFi/UfCd+iiUt jPhWk3eIvTTOB2dXf4uQRMV+Oxl+29FlaS2Ka8JD1K7WZpLNnpPMDqCVgpw+QPqfrQ EZSAv9OPzPZfr2QFqOM1JoWNCJ3hy7KoAVa7UU8E= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at liukuma.net Received: from www.liukuma.net ([127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id Y-FQDeT7Z0CG; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:46:00 +0300 (EEST) Received: from Rivendell (dsl-kmibrasgw1-fe47de00-175.dhcp.inet.fi [80.222.71.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: ignatz@www.liukuma.net) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 42CDB1CC2B; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:46:00 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net 42CDB1CC2B Message-ID: <66A1E803E2F9438B85C65B3783D9FD7E@Rivendell> From: "Reko Turja" To: "Jakub Lach" , References: <1342542757760-5727668.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <1342542757760-5727668.post@n5.nabble.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:45:59 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 Cc: Subject: Re: Nasty reference loop in login.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:46:07 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: Jakub Lach > Moreover I'm afraid to power down machine, as > currently I'm logged as wheel group user, and I'm not > sure if change from :passwd_format=md5:\ > to :passwd_format=sha512:\ didn't complicate it further... > Currently all my solutions would require to power down > machine, which I'm afraid to do frankly. > 1. Hope I can still log in single user mode and correct > /etc/login.conf? I'm afraid of md5 -> sha512 change. > 2. Use some LiveCD and correct login.conf, then run > /usr/bin/cap_mkdb . Killing init - means that you drop to singleuser mode kill -TERM 1 End result may depend on whether or not your singleuser mode is password protected. -Reko From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 16:52:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D47261065678 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:52:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1638FC15 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:52:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.50]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9025A70B90 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:52:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32516 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2012 16:52:56 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 2724, pid: 26776, t: 0.1373s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 Received: from unknown (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Jul 2012 16:52:56 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4295A33C23; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:52:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 4DB193984C; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:52:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: "Reko Turja" References: <44ipdm4cy4.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <9B4C537601E64EE1BD4C8FC6C5CEFDCE@Rivendell> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:52:47 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Reko Turja's message of "Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:19:38 +0300") Message-ID: <44sjcql480.fsf@lowell-desk.l