Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 23:03:40 -0400 From: Eitan Adler <lists@eitanadler.com> To: Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org> Cc: ports@freebsd.org, Steve Wills <swills@freebsd.org>, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org>, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkgng suggestion: renaming /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap Message-ID: <CAF6rxgnETUEy8ObG7dcS8O97bVJv=ZEXvTR%2ByFwXh57z7iA_Dg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5036EE2E.4040606@FreeBSD.org> References: <97612B57-1255-4BB3-A6D3-FC74324C6D67@FreeBSD.org> <CAF6rxg=TMbmwbhhmiGi_MfqjjE144pQAMNoR3ajTzR3n4Z5XLQ@mail.gmail.com> <785B5BAD-E015-4624-B3A1-D05E1BD97E51@freebsd.org> <CAF6rxgm3gYQOxd8q1Ys0nJjFxROErLEXfiy2AM4Mbx5jBHWBmA@mail.gmail.com> <5AC662AA-4874-4BC2-9862-65518B79B840@freebsd.org> <CAF6rxgmXHd3iAFU5P31-CgKt6Sz=Ou%2BtchQy=h5YshRD_j1fUw@mail.gmail.com> <5036EE2E.4040606@FreeBSD.org>
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On 23 August 2012 22:59, Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org> wrote: > No, POLA refers to not changing long-established practices out from > under the user. forget pola > > I tend to agree with Steve here ... we can't be responsible for other > people's poorly written docs. This isn't about poorly written docs. This is the user expecting a tool to exist, which doesn't. Take another example of a sysadmin which rarely installs new systems, installs FreeBSD for the third time, and then gets confused when "pkg install vim" fails. > You bring up a valid point that we should > keep in mind for our own however. The bootstrapping issue will be the > smallest possible annoyance on a long road of the migration process. The bootstrapping issue is a factor even after the migration :) > OTOH this is a good use case for the "prompt the user when they type a > command for something that can be installed from ports" idea. :) even this is fine, provided that *for the command called pkg* it is on by default. note that I'm not talking about the mechanism here, I'm trying to avoid "pkg doesn't seem to be installed on my fresh system" becoming a FAQ. -- Eitan Adler
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