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Date:      Thu, 18 Mar 2004 17:07:45 -0500
From:      Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu>
To:        Paul Seniura <pdseniura@techie.com>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: I believe lang/icc* are not open-source nor 'free', right?
Message-ID:  <p0602043abc7fca5da6c6@[128.113.24.47]>
In-Reply-To: <20040318213442.D38635C35@techpc04.okladot.state.ok.us>
References:  <200403122136.i2CLaCm9096276@repoman.freebsd.org> <20040318213442.D38635C35@techpc04.okladot.state.ok.us>

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At 3:34 PM -0600 3/18/04, Paul Seniura wrote:
>I don't want to discuss Intel compilers on AMD or whatever
>else the issues are in the previous threads.
>
>I am posting this on the -ports forum because I am asking
>about lang/icc* strictly as ports and how I will use them
>as ports.

The same way as you use ports which have been written for other
commercial software packages.  We just provide ports to help
the end user.  It is still up to the end user to understand
the licensing requirements for the applications.

In the case of Intel's compiler, each individual user will have
to decide if they qualify for Intel's license, and if Intel's
compiler qualifies for what the user wants to do.

>I'm not saying get rid of the ports -- not at all.  Other
>users need to be able to have the choices.
>
>Let me cite one circumstance that would stand out as a clear
>violation:
>   If, for example, in the future any part of the CD ISOs
>   are built by 'icc', then I/we are forbidden to use them.

True for you, and true for a very large number of FreeBSD users
and FreeBSD developers (as far as using the binaries in their
real-world jobs).

>I will therefore absolutely oppose any such changes in FreeBSD
>itself, in its default build configurations, in its (binary
>or 'ready-to-run') distribution, and so on.

I think you are reacting too quickly to an event which has not
happened, and is not likely to ever happen.  Many of us are
very keen on understanding licenses, and we don't want to paint
ourselves into a corner any more than we want to paint you into
a corner...

At the same time, I think it is great that the icc port has been
done.  For FreeBSD users who want to use 'icc', the port is a
valuable option that makes their lives easier.

-- 
Garance Alistair Drosehn            =   gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu
Senior Systems Programmer           or  gad@freebsd.org
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute    or  drosih@rpi.edu



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