From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 18 15:28:28 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902B6C48DF0 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2016 15:28:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.70.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8331B4; Fri, 18 Nov 2016 15:28:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 427C4CB8CA3; Fri, 18 Nov 2016 09:28:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Fri, 18 Nov 2016 09:28:27 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <14047.128.135.52.6.1479482907.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <747a871c-4d34-7c06-0c04-4650f31bb6ce@FreeBSD.org> References: <20161118113224.20964d7d.freebsd@edvax.de> <747a871c-4d34-7c06-0c04-4650f31bb6ce@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 09:28:27 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Microsoft announced it is joining The Linux Foundation? From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Matthew Seaman" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 15:28:28 -0000 On Fri, November 18, 2016 5:44 am, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 2016/11/18 10:32, Polytropon wrote: >> On Thu, 17 Nov 2016 20:35:36 -0300, SOUL_OF_ROOT 55 wrote: >>> Can this be? Microsoft announced it is joining The Linux Foundation? >> >> They are prividing a certain sum of money, and that amount >> makes them a platinum member, not more, not less. Basically >> anoyone who donates $500,000 annually can be a platinum member >> of The Linux Foundation. In case of MICROS~1, this is probably >> an attempt to re-gain "developers' share", a facet of "the >> new MICROS~1" thathopes people forget security nightmares, >> forced updates, patent extortion and vendor lock-in... but >> who really knows what happens inside MICROS~1... ;-) > > Actually, Microsoft's motivation here is Microsoft Azure -- they've > spend a huge amount of money on datacentres and servers and all the > other infrastructure required for setting up a global cloud presence, > and now they are very keen to encourage lots of people to use it (and > pay them money for the privilege, of course.) > > Since their principle target market is the Enterprise, and they aim to > be able to migrate just about any Enterprise computing system from > dedicated hardware to their cloud, that means they need to support just > about all of the different OSes that a variety of different Enterprise > setups could be using. So they now support a lot of OpenSource OSes. > Which includes both FreeBSD 10.x and pfsense by the way -- as well as > all the usual Linux suspects. > > Oh, and when I say 'support' that means that you can phone up Microsoft > about your FreeBSD or pfsense related problems on your Azure VMs, and > Microsoft are contractually obliged to help you out. They did a > presentation about all this at the last BSDCan. Plus there are two > FreeBSD src committers who work for Microsoft, Jeez, the last scares a hell out of me! It looks quite similar to another case: working for RedHat guy (everybody knows the name, so I skip that) committed everybody into systemd, firewalld and friends. Once related stuff has infested the kernel tree, you have only two choices: either get along, or get away. (Luckily in Linux case, I fled servers to FreeBSD long before the above happened. Just couldn't take the need of reboot once every 45 days on average...) Valeri > and who are doing a lot > of work making sure the Hyper-V drivers etc. are all working and > performant. There have been reports of a FreeBSD VM on azure achieving > 37 Gb/s on 40 Gb/s hardware for instance. > > Microsoft in its aspect as the global cloud computing company is really > quite different from Microsoft in its aspect as the PC desktop operating > system company. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++