Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 15:58:04 +0300 From: Lev Serebryakov <lev@FreeBSD.org> To: David Chisnall <theraven@FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8) Message-ID: <57177CDC.1010701@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <5524F499-5042-407E-9180-43D15A53F3F0@FreeBSD.org> References: <E1asbZj-0003Ra-Qs@rmm6prod02.runbox.com> <76093.1461096570@critter.freebsd.dk> <5716AD65.8070007@shrew.net> <BF66EA01-E073-45F0-8F9E-22D57E8871B0@bsdimp.com> <5716FA70.4080604@freebsd.org> <57170E5D.1090701@freebsd.org> <5524F499-5042-407E-9180-43D15A53F3F0@FreeBSD.org>
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This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --GdPbdku6xhpdEUHFtk8mnNAvBUS8c5cSx Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="LgaeI4LQL5WdCG1hUiwk1bsEPV1MF9qnK" From: Lev Serebryakov <lev@FreeBSD.org> Reply-To: lev@FreeBSD.org To: David Chisnall <theraven@FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Message-ID: <57177CDC.1010701@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8) References: <E1asbZj-0003Ra-Qs@rmm6prod02.runbox.com> <76093.1461096570@critter.freebsd.dk> <5716AD65.8070007@shrew.net> <BF66EA01-E073-45F0-8F9E-22D57E8871B0@bsdimp.com> <5716FA70.4080604@freebsd.org> <57170E5D.1090701@freebsd.org> <5524F499-5042-407E-9180-43D15A53F3F0@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <5524F499-5042-407E-9180-43D15A53F3F0@FreeBSD.org> --LgaeI4LQL5WdCG1hUiwk1bsEPV1MF9qnK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 20.04.2016 11:12, David Chisnall wrote: > all of the complaints in this thread have been about the UI, not about = the underlying mechanism. =20 Nope. And there are (small) thread in other mailing list with very big concerns about underlying mechanisms, which doesn't have any attention: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-pkgbase/2016-April/000183.htm= l It is very worrying to see such reports without any reaction from developers in one month before release. If there is one year till release, it is nothing. But in one month we will have code slush, and after that =E2=80=94 release, which should be supported for several years= ! Also, suggested (and totally ignored in discussion) mechanisms with overlay packages is not UI, it is underlying mechanism which could be very useful. Again, I have nothing against good package management for base. But what I see now is scary, if you take one-month-before-release in account!= --=20 // Lev Serebryakov --LgaeI4LQL5WdCG1hUiwk1bsEPV1MF9qnK-- --GdPbdku6xhpdEUHFtk8mnNAvBUS8c5cSx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJXF3zhXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRGOTZEMUNBMEI1RjQzMThCNjc0QjMzMEFF QUIwM0M1OEJGREM0NzhGAAoJEOqwPFi/3EePv/MQAKzbOlqCjTKR05kdLn0SFNcX 0bktBIgjGJvZpR/8C/yZobAB/cSxL/sGUmgC6SNHJ0Mc1RYoXw46iXeOFPqXUgMP mJDXc7Z1PUmZrkTha2Rm5w9XdB5HEk1HZW8xjyuq79IIMkzq5n7wpYi6Ii8Dd8Df mrAFYlrCNqOuiPfj77TOyybjhuGi3dXCte/tsjNXZz7pmJYDfJHf6r4GAh1G2U3M VUFCHiaxeEnb1pVQ3dtpBgqPdUyNFCYYyq1/ipN7tKRyBlKKnM/t9j4clWjZnEdo yA8AXTknYVMWciEJfcJcgAJRbeWoRtWm0MInMUD0GWAS/SnQqvr+KvJq2lA5gEi6 fLrLRNLpvCTF9a0Tk1Dr/+CKmE6gU1+s8Hu+HYA27mrbKBlnGlNkcFNOYh5Kvr8n MkZdBZDq1gWUC1d0Dtuj0PD8S/9qwAMU//HeXPx2lnnYojUOcdGVWSIa6CQK0v+e /rba1rm9aV4pIFpRKxn/RHFHTzSwCOCuAoOjZoQsh8vBGOpEYzY/XvWU7cMkAic6 PLAXT4UFtiO4iiJl3d9l8FSVaEdmBGJYDuAcm0bNXgiVhQ5UTjzne2CNEQ3gKhAM saa0h1hoy8BMpKkuSGnKhYJ9Wu9iJeByxhix9JI9DOcqT1bS5dqtNX8zHua8N2JW 2LHdyo+9+qDTxuW7/ltu =YFTK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GdPbdku6xhpdEUHFtk8mnNAvBUS8c5cSx--
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