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Date:      Fri, 29 Nov 2013 19:42:31 +0100
From:      =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ermal_Lu=E7i?= <eri@freebsd.org>
To:        Oleg Moskalenko <mom040267@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-net <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>, Tim Kientzle <kientzle@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: [PATCH] SO_REUSEADDR and SO_REUSEPORT behaviour
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Well seems Dragonfly has some version of it already from commit [1].

In FreeBSD there is the framework for this with by defining PCBGROUP.
Also the explanation of it at [2] and [3].
It can achieve approximately the same features of SO_RESUSEPORT of linux.
The only thing missing is the marketing behind it and i think and better
RSS support.
By looking at dates the support is there before linux so all you guys
looking for it can experiment with it.

What i was trying to accomplish was something else from performance
improvement and
maybe put a sysctl behind it to make it more acceptable..

[1]
http://gitweb.dragonflybsd.org/dragonfly.git/commitdiff/740d1d9f7b7bf9c9c02=
1abb8197718d7a2d441c9
[2]
http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source/netinet/in_pcbgroup.c?im=3Dbigexcerpts#L51
[3] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-head/2011-June/028190.html


On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Oleg Moskalenko <mom040267@gmail.com>wrote=
:

> Tim, you are wrong. Read what is "multicast" definition, and read how UDP
> and TCP sockets work in Linux 3.9+ kernels.
>
> Oleg .
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Tim Kientzle <kientzle@freebsd.org>wrote=
:
>
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2013, at 4:04 AM, Ermal Lu=E7i <eri@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > since SO_REUSEADDR and SO_REUSEPORT are supposed to allow two daemons =
to
>> > share the same port and possibly listening ip =85
>>
>> These flags are used with TCP-based servers.
>>
>> I=92ve used them to make software upgrades go more smoothly.
>> Without them, the following often happens:
>>
>> * Old server stops.  In the process, all of its TCP connections are
>> closed.
>>
>> * Connections to old server remain in the TCP connection table until the
>> remote end can acknowledge.
>>
>> * New server starts.
>>
>> * New server tries to open port but fails because that port is =93still =
in
>> use=94 by connections in the TCP connection table.
>>
>> With these flags, the new server can open the port even though
>> it is =93still in use=94 by existing connections.
>>
>>
>> > This is not the case today.
>> > Only multicast sockets seem to have the behaviour of broadcasting the
>> data
>> > to all sockets sharing the same properties through these options!
>>
>> That is what multicast is for.
>>
>> If you want the same data sent to all listeners, then
>> that is multicast behavior and you should be using
>> a multicast socket.
>>
>> > The patch at [1] implements/corrects the behaviour for UDP sockets.
>>
>> You=92re trying to turn all UDP sockets with those options
>> into multicast sockets.
>>
>> If you want a multicast socket, you should ask for one.
>>
>> Tim
>>
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>


--=20
Ermal



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