From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 24 8:35:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bumper.jellybaby.net (bumper.jellybaby.net [194.159.247.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05FA637B424 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 08:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from simond@localhost) by bumper.jellybaby.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) id QAA83056; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 16:35:34 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from simond) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 16:35:34 +0100 From: simond@irrelevant.org To: Vivek Khera Cc: FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: nuking "unsafe" protocols (was Re: Upcoming rc.conf changes not loading certain currently loaded daemons) Message-ID: <20000824163533.B80150@irrelevant.org> References: <200008241201.IAA32736@sanson.reyes.somos.net> <20000824080419.B51628@dazed.slacker.com> <14757.15655.515615.780499@onceler.kciLink.com> <20000824162123.A80150@irrelevant.org> <14757.16490.269381.416596@onceler.kciLink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <14757.16490.269381.416596@onceler.kciLink.com>; from khera@kciLink.com on Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 11:34:02AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 11:34:02AM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote: > >>>>> "s" == simond writes: > > s> On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 11:20:07AM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote: > >> >>>>> "DM" == David McNett writes: > >> > DM> If someone insists on using those antiquated and unsafe protocols like > DM> telnet and the r* services, we should at least make sure they're doing it > DM> on purpose and not just leaving the defaults in place out of ignorance. > >> > >> How do you make rdump/rmt work without the rcmd service? I've got a > >> LAN and do all backups of workstations to one server with a tape > >> drive. Without the rshd service, it won't work. > > s> In that case just turn on the rshd from rc.conf, easy. > > Yes, but then how does one ever eradicate "those antiquated and unsafe > protocols" from the system? Is there a way to make rmt work without > rshd? There will be a lot of unexpected breakage I'm sure. Perhaps > it should be documented what normal use programs (like > rdump/rrestore/tar using rmt) will break if you turn off certain > services that are currently on by default. Surely rmt could work over ssh? -- Simon Dick simond@irrelevant.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message