From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 5 20:04:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 124EB16A424 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 20:04:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jas@math.jussieu.fr) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42D943D48 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 20:03:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jas@math.jussieu.fr) Received: from riemann.math.jussieu.fr (riemann.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.3]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.13.6/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id k35K3h9X038502 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 22:03:43 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 165 Received: from grobner2.math.jussieu.fr (grobner2.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.119]) by riemann.math.jussieu.fr (8.13.6/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id k35K3gZw046523 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 22:03:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from grobner2.math.jussieu.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by grobner2.math.jussieu.fr (8.13.1/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id k35K3fVg016482 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 22:03:41 +0200 Received: (from jas@localhost) by grobner2.math.jussieu.fr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k35K3f1o016481 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 22:03:41 +0200 Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 22:03:41 +0200 From: Albert Shih To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20060405200341.GD14126@math.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Spam-Score: -1.44 () ALL_TRUSTED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 134.157.13.3 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.7.2 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.165]); Wed, 05 Apr 2006 22:03:43 +0200 (CEST) X-Antivirus: scanned by sophie at shiva.jussieu.fr X-Miltered: at shiva.jussieu.fr with ID 4434229F.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! Cc: Subject: Disappointed X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: shih@math.jussieu.fr List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 20:04:05 -0000 Hi all I'm disappointed by the stablity of FreeBSD 6-stable (I known it's developpement branche). I'm using FreeBSD from 3.4 and using regulary 5-stable in production. Now on my central server (nfs server) I make big update, and running 6-stable from 02/2006. From this date until today I've 4 or 5 big crash (the network interface just disapper (with watchdog message). But when I'm using 4.x I have zero crash during 3.5 years. And on my other servers (~ 15 ) running FreeBSD I never have so many crash, event on student's servers. I've send a message on this mailing-list. Now I follow the advise and today (after new crash) I'm running with polling on my network interface. I've already see some other users to have same problem. Maybe it's very hard to developper to fix this problem because I can't reproduce, just after 10-15 days the server crash. Sometime I don't have any prompt on the console, sometime I can make a clean reboot. But IMHO (please don't shoot me) fix this kind of problem is very very important and more more important to have some wifi device. If I going to www.freebsd.org I see FreeBSD power to serve and for «serve» we (sysadmin like me) need network interface. Personnaly I'm very sad to can't help anyone, I'm just user (sysadmin on Educational environnement) and I'm not developper (The more complexe "software" I ever made is....hello_world.c). Thanks for all developpers. Regards. -- Albert SHIH Universite de Paris 7 (Denis DIDEROT) U.F.R. de Mathematiques. 7 ième étage, plateau D, bureau 10 Heure local/Local time: Wed Apr 5 21:49:37 CEST 2006