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Date:      25 Jan 2003 17:04:51 -0500
From:      Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com>
To:        Franz Klammer <klammer@webonaut.com>
Cc:        Maxime Romano <verbophobe@hotmail.com>, FreeBSD GNOME Users <gnome@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: YAMM - Yet Another Mozilla Mail ;-)
Message-ID:  <1043532291.328.17.camel@gyros>
In-Reply-To: <1043492669.589.24.camel@ds9.webonaut.com>
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On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 06:04, Franz Klammer wrote:
> Am Sa, 2003-01-25 um 07.40 schrieb Joe Marcus Clarke:
> > On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 01:27, Maxime Romano wrote:
> > > >From: Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com>
> > > >On Fri, 2003-01-24 at 20:01, Franz Klammer wrote:
> > > > > Am Sa, 2003-01-25 um 01.29 schrieb Joe Marcus Clarke:
> > > > > > On Fri, 2003-01-24 at 19:25, Franz Klammer wrote:
> > > > > > > Am Sa, 2003-01-25 um 01.05 schrieb Joe Marcus Clarke:
> > > > > > > > On Fri, 2003-01-24 at 19:00, Franz Klammer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Am Sa, 2003-01-25 um 00.09 schrieb Joe Marcus Clarke:
> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2003-01-24 at 17:41, Maxime Romano wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >From: Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > >To: Franz Klammer <klammer@webonaut.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > >CC: FreeBSD GNOME Users <gnome@freebsd.org>
> > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: YAMM - Yet Another Mozilla Mail ;-)
> > > > > > > > > > > >Date: 24 Jan 2003 14:18:27 -0500
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 13:07, Franz Klammer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > hello!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > just for info.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe it helps a little to track down the problem.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to try it out, yesterday i've installed mozilla-1.3a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > with xft and gtk2 support.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > (on -current with -march=pentiumpro and -O2 ;o))
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > everything works well if i'm don't think about that i 
> > > >have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to run it with root-rights: sudo mozilla.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > (the same i've written yesterday regarding 
> > > >1.2.1/gtk/xft)
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >Okay, I've reproduced the crash with Galeon 1.3.1 and 
> > > >Mozilla with
> > > > > > > > > > > >GTK2.  The problem is an expat conflict.  expat is being 
> > > >linked from
> > > > > > > > > > > >fontconfig instead of the static version that is included 
> > > >with Mozilla.
> > > > > > > > > > > >This would be okay, except that Galeon is doing something 
> > > >bad.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Definately.  I'm seeing this problem too, and am currently 
> > > >recompiling
> > > > > > > > > > > mozilla-gtk2.  But, considering what you just said, it isn't 
> > > >going to change
> > > > > > > > > > > much.  Any idea how to fix this?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I'm testing a possible fix now.  Try removing --enable-reorder 
> > > >from
> > > > > > > > > > mozilla-devel's Makefile, and see if that helps.  My machine 
> > > >won't be
> > > > > > > > > > done recompiling for a while.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > i've found the reason but i don't know why: mozilla didn't start
> > > > > > > > > with some gtk2-themes. e.g. with my favorite theme "fishing the 
> > > >sky"
> > > > > > > > > i have to start it with sudo. if i change the theme to e.g. 
> > > >gtk-default
> > > > > > > > > i can start mozilla as normal user.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Try going through the theme files, and see if there are 
> > > >restrictive
> > > > > > > > permissions.  I haven't tried a non-default GNOME theme myself to 
> > > >see if
> > > > > > > > it works.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > didn't help. just to be sure I've done a
> > > > > > > chmod -R 777 ~/.themes - the problem persist.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What about font permissions?  Have you tried themes other than the 
> > > >"bad"
> > > > > > one and default?  What exactly happens when you run it as a normal 
> > > >user?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Joe
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > THEMES:
> > > > > ==============
> > > > > gnububble: no
> > > > >
> > > > > Redmond95: ok, but:
> > > > >    (<unknown>:91532): Gtk-WARNING **:
> > > > >    /usr/X11R6/lib/gtk-2.0/2.2.0/engines/libredmond95.so:
> > > > >    Undefined symbol "gtk_widget_get_direction"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Metal: ok, but:
> > > > >     (<unknown>:98114): Gtk-WARNING **:
> > > > >     /usr/X11R6/lib/gtk-2.0/2.2.0/engines/libmetal.so:
> > > > >     Undefined symbol "gtk_toggle_button_get_type"

Okay, here are my findings.  I get the same errors you do, but they
appear to be harmless.  All apps work as expected including Mozilla.  As
for the other themes, they work just fine for me as well (including with
Mozilla).  I think you got bit by the old GTK directory problem, Franz. 
It is not sufficient for you to just bump the shared lib version when it
comes to GTK themes.  You also have to go through the the Makefile, and
replace occurrences of the 2.0.0 directory with 2.2.0 (there are quite a
few of these in Bluecurve, for example).

After doing that, the theme works great, and Mozilla comes right up with
the Bluecurve look and feel.  (Note, other non-ported themes may have
some other, deeper editing that needs to be done).

> > > >
> > > >I'll have to try these tomorrow.  As far as I can tell
> > > >libgtk-x11-2.0.so.200 has both of these symbols.  I haven't tested
> > > >gtk-engines2-2.2.0 much yet, though.
> > > >
> > > >Joe
> > > 
> > > For kicks, I'd just like to add that I see this problem too...  Bluecurve, 
> > > Thinice and Xfce engines have the same effect of *not* starting up mozilla 
> > > and not leaving an error message.  Plus, any pixmap based theme will equally 
> > > mess up. It's not so bad, though, because the new default GTK theme kicks 
> > > ass.
> > 
> > What about the gtk-engines2 themes themselves?  Do they affect the look
> > and feel of the desktop?  I want to make sure those themes are at least
> > functional before 2.2 is released.  I suppose I'll answer this for
> > myself tomorrow...
> > 
> 
> Yes they did. IMHO gnome-2.2 is ready for desktop ;-)
> 
> and since the most ports have the version 2.2 and up
> i'm think its faster. (debugging-code turned off?)
> 
> but what's about gnumeric2/gthumb2/gal2 and libgnomeprint - are 
> there any solutions?

There is a gthumb 2.0.0, but I'm not sure what gnomeprint it uses.  I
was hoping Maxime would submit a diff for it ;-).  As for ghumeric,
still no word.  The last thing Jody said was if GNOME 2.2 shipped first,
Gnumeric would be made to use libgnomeprint-2.2.  If Gnumeric 1.2
shipped first, it would go out with libgnomeprint-2.0.  We'll have to
wait and see.

Joe

> 
> franz.
> 
> > Joe
> > 
> > > 
> > > --Max
> > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > H2O-Saphire: no
> > > > >
> > > > > Aquesco-gtk2-Blue: no
> > > > >
> > > > > Aqua: no
> > > > >
> > > > > FONTS: All Fonts-directory have 755 and all fonts at least 444.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > i have today recompiled nearly all my ports because i wasn't
> > > > > sure what ports i've installed with -O2 set.
> > > > >
> > > > > i've done now a reinstall of gtk-engines2, but the messages
> > > > > still there.
> > > > >
> > > > > franz.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --Max
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >As for Mozilla with GTK2 not running in GNOME 2.1, this 
> > > >does work.  You
> > > > > > > > > > > >might have to do:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >chown -R <user> ~/.mozilla
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >to get it to work.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >Joe
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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