Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 13:56:37 -0600 From: "Kenneth D. Merry" <ken@kdm.org> To: Luigi Rizzo <rizzo@icir.org> Cc: Charles Sprickman <spork@inch.com>, freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxp and 802.3 flow control Message-ID: <20020903135637.A96512@panzer.kdm.org> In-Reply-To: <20020903124301.A1859@iguana.icir.org>; from rizzo@icir.org on Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 12:43:02PM -0700 References: <Pine.BSF.4.44.0208292128480.18885-100000@shell.inch.com> <20020903123508.A95635@panzer.kdm.org> <20020903114028.B1595@iguana.icir.org> <20020903125503.A95848@panzer.kdm.org> <20020903124301.A1859@iguana.icir.org>
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On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 12:43:02 -0700, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 12:55:03PM -0600, Kenneth D. Merry wrote: > ... > > It would be nice if there were actually detailed docs available for those > > boards that didn't require an NDA. > > i actually think we should just stop recommend using that card. > > Apart from the unavailable docs which is very annoying in itself, > the fxp card (not the driver) also has other performance > problems and is quite a bit more expensive than other similar > or better performing cards. They do work pretty well -- I haven't had many problems with them under FreeBSD. There are also tons of motherboards that have these chips onboard. (two of my home machines have onboard 82550/82559 chips) So it's kinda hard to get away from them. What would you recommend instead? There are other chips available, certainly, but some of them have serious hardware bugs or design flaws. e.g., look at Bill Paul's comments in the rl(4) driver, or Mike Silbersack's message on -arch from yesterday about coming up with some crazy work-arounds to make vr(4) hardware work properly. > just no point in using it in new designs. Maybe so, but it would be hard to convince vendors to stop putting them on motherboards. That's where most people will find these chips nowadays, anyway. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message
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