From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 30 22:03:47 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E5BF1BA3B0 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 22:03:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47QQPZ3Bhzz4b9K for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 22:03:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.2.248]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue106 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MN4ux-1iKsNF0Q7h-00J1E4; Sat, 30 Nov 2019 23:03:40 +0100 Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 23:03:37 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Tomasz CEDRO Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Installation image size for CD exceeds media size Message-Id: <20191130230337.df209d4d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20191129223920.3c24fabf.freebsd@edvax.de> <20191130200846.37fea47a.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:/ctWEW1Nahj+hka76vPUpJg6qLjYWJcPD8MV68wjanLBZI2Fup2 8qj7GpG82Q6jzSw1qOgj5Q1MIwUQnjIuLuC+UggLFwYYBfY5SP/PiF382BUp7zpF4Umpwlq dWVyp5pZqpK7kbYdqZjT4kByy3eg4GAHjWK94cIn0IALiyuXaaTqv+oA2vfu2DxYbCM6ZlK 8++/mEImaniQqV6uzhBvg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:axv9G1eVIyg=:MK13EyJEjOhZHGlKbKzYW/ 8Ah6qqi4XKFXEZfnIE81574eSGnTMIzD65gomEgJ7Id5zTtjh1BTfkalfyJ045Q2upR4vmetl 6n1ByYJpNMgmzxOzJ3xd3dqD0klR/bYB2U6eTHvJTxdoDATIh62MH7OBoxHh8BRpQdPejFCfy MCqd8NHtJwDBLeEQditgTKvGM9OXn1vjJRtOlE0gxQpclkqNzHlX1bRy8UByTW/4umVgaMmKZ U6XdLONukxTxwd5raxDorvFAZkANHlqq4wpijlkdg6qO4fJwBCpk8J2aq9cxjv65Lh8cVq5EZ 4Rl4xXfgEDJSkHhqSdkg/mXxycS8hFSP8OZgYNnQLlAzotJv6N35DxxqIGvWiSEjSYXUG2MZp CoHS3XZz00fi9XVOrlcvFiAD0h526C4ugxz+L7Fs4LPUQddG57C/3a/adaiBF6rzbX7yy9Gw+ mfn1FJh/PPV0B2Js1DQEsTes63Hmv9ol6APpPi+YoAbiR676ljyhgeSTsieyeZrhCCh8EHlts VCqwt9Oor5LTcjAc4DcNgRgbdVuA43Rs7T95VmnI2wO2kq1qWvGXTN/FhU8h1yvWpfcx4ak44 rr+L/+ha/RtTebIRFOcqN4qawrvWn1358BKw6egbfg6XX7yzFleDVVPKdVk9uZlR9WMkQiACI 9gQII9zkBEIH24vcaio8Njyv15mCvbLhbwXhQK2o2kR2FIX1emWQ1sTjMld/3534AlssVut+2 ydYXJgG/CzUUY7GWuD7q23tHc39G2HJYxM9GiBsa+Tltpod1PvAbjyC/hKWjrHMstZc/uZYq9 o0CEsZgtgenvOWttbwHCW++X9qE0zlmuLsPNxNEp298V+j6GbhytaBL90yWbPXd76Y9hTXDJq 8d0P37f7mu2MnQ8oVR8w== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47QQPZ3Bhzz4b9K X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 217.72.192.73) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.80 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:217.72.192.0/20, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[248.2.222.94.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.86)[0.862,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.991,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[73.192.72.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.55)[ip: (0.22), ipnet: 217.72.192.0/20(0.24), asn: 8560(2.29), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 22:03:47 -0000 On Sat, 30 Nov 2019 22:47:42 +0100, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 8:08 PM Polytropon wrote: > > > I just guess this may be used on SMALL / MINI DVD+RW disks used in > > > camcorders, or small "business card" disk, they have around > > > 1.25..1.5GB capacity, I used them quite often because they are pretty > > > reliable (can live several years when carried everyday in a backpack), > > > smaller in size, rewritable (can use up-to-date contents when it shows > > > up on the same disk), and twice capacity of CeDeROM disks.. > > > > Never saw those in reality here... :-) > > Look look you can get a sealed 5 pack for EUR 5.99 on eBay.de they are > really cool like 80's futuristic cyberpunk optical disks with > gigabytes (!!!) of capacity.. Remembers me to MiniDisc (MD) - smaller than today's 5.25"-oriented optical media, comes in protective case, and is R/W. If I could have _that_ form factor with a reasonable capacity for today, that would be great. :-) sizes: 8" -> 5.25" -> 3.5" -> 5.25" again Yes, I know even 3" disks existed, I have one sitting on the shelf above my head, becasue I'm a living museum. :-) Oh, and a Mac Mini is about the size of a standard 5.25" DVD drive unit for PCs. :-) > and remember that current Atari 5.25" > disks are 160KB single sided and barely anyone owns a disk drive > anyway here in Eastern Europe behind the Iron Curtain so we quite > often share a software directly over a public FM radio broadcasts to > store them on our CC/MC cassette streamers.. mmmm old good times :-) > :-) :-) I'm old enough to remember that - oh, and of course I have the required hardware in working condition. You can easily imagine how _disappointing_ it is to own hardware that is several decades old and works like new, while seeing hardware not older than a few years break down without the ability of diagnostics or repair. OK >_ -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...