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Date:      Sat, 18 Dec 2004 15:27:45 -0700
From:      Ed Stover <estover@nativenerds.com>
To:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Multiple hard disk failures - coincidence ?
Message-ID:  <1103408865.90538.29.camel@red.nativenerds.com>
In-Reply-To: <20041218211747.GE1068@cicely12.cicely.de>
References:  <41C3D62D.7000808@comcast.net> <20041218091739.GC97121@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> <20041218195910.GD1068@cicely12.cicely.de> <20041218210720.GE97121@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> <20041218211747.GE1068@cicely12.cicely.de>

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Have you run the low level disk tools from Maxtor on your failed drives?
One day out of the blue my 80Gig maxtors started giving out hard error
failures, so I downloaded a floppy image from maxtor and used it to scan
and repair my drives. I rebooted in single user mode and fscked my
drives and rescued the data from lostnfound. and everything has been Aok
ever since.
On Sat, 2004-12-18 at 22:17 +0100, Bernd Walter wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 08:07:20AM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote:
> > On Sat, 2004-Dec-18 20:59:11 +0100, Bernd Walter wrote:
> > >On Sat, Dec 18, 2004 at 08:17:39PM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote:
> > >> My approach to this is to add a line similar to 
> > >>   dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/null bs=32k
> > >> for each disk into /etc/daily.local (or /etc/weekly.local or whatever).
> > >> This ensures that the disks are readable on a regular basis.
> > >
> > >Regular reading of every file is part of what I call backup.
> > 
> > That only verifies the used part of the disk.  Reading the unused parts
> 
> That's true - used parts are the only I'm interested in reading.
> If blocks fail that aren't used write reallocation has to do it's
> job.
> 
> > of the disk as well helps reduce surprises.  Also, in a mirrored environment,
> > the backup does not ensure that the data can be read off both disks.
> > (Or the parity area for RAID-5).
> 
> Raid is another story.
> Just dd'ing the disks wouldn't check redundance integrity, but if you
> check the integrity why would you still want to check via dd too?
> 



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