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Date:      Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:00:32 -0400
From:      Jerry <jerry@seibercom.net>
To:        FreeBSD <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: more information
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On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 12:17:13 -0400
Alejandro Imass articulated:

> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Jerry <jerry@seibercom.net> wrote:
> > On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 10:47:54 -0400
> > Alejandro Imass articulated:
> >
> [...]
> 
> >
> > For Christ's sake, he posted a simple assignment outline, more than
> > likely the original one he received and asked for help with it.
> > Obviously, part of the problem can be attributed to language. I
> > assume someone besides myself noticed where the assignment
> > originated from.
> 
> Everyone reacts from his or her particular perception. The assignment
> is in plain English so I doubt the problem is language related, so in
> my perception, the question is laziness.
> And you have to respect that.

No I don't. Being able to read a language, and I have no idea, nor do
you, exactly how well the OP can converse in English. There are
numerous posters on this forum that apparently can read to a limited
extend and post as well in English. Grammatically, it may suck but at
least the the majority of this community can ascertain what the OP
was trying to convey.

> > All he did was ask for some assistance; not for someone to do the
> > actual assignment. Perhaps he could have worded it different;
> > however, anyone with an IQ over 2 would have been aware of what his
> > intent was.
> >
> 
> Exactly my point, thanks:
> 
> With my humble IQ of 2, his e-mail reads "Please do my homework for
> me".

<quote>
Please help me with my research work..I'm working on Freebsd as my OS. Tnx.
</quote>

Interesting! "Do" != "Help" You do have a serious IQ deficiency. So,
using your interpretation, the next time someone posts asking for help
with a problem they have encountered with FreeBSD, you are going to
assume that they want you to actually fix it for them rather then give
them some verbal assistance or a link to a possible fix? Pathetic to
say the least.

> > Personally, if I was his instructor, I would give him high marks on
> > initiative for going straight to the source and seeking answers. I
> > am
> 
> It's a good thing you are not! IMHO awarding laziness is not a good
> thing.
> 
> > assuming that you actually have some education, basket weaving
> > doesn't count, and have received assignments that required
> > obtaining facts, etcetera. It would have been so much easier and
> > pleasant to have simple listed a few links to documentation that he
> > might be able to use rather than attacking the OP in a
> > condescending manner.
> >
> 
> The only one attacking here, my friend, is you.
> 
> My mail was very straight forward: go do your homework first; then
> come back and ask some intelligent question.
> 
> I would gladly accept you criticism if I hadn't pointed the OP in the
> right direction.
> 
> But if it's a question of "style" then the question becomes, where did
> you get your education? because any of my teachers would have done the
> same or worse:
> "go away and come back with a specific question; don't come here with
> you assignment and expect me to do it for you!", "but here, read this
> and then come back"
> 
> > If you are really looking for e-mail addresses, start here:
> > <http://www.uc-bcf.edu.ph/>. When you e-mail his instructors, please
> > CC me as well. I really want to see how this is going to turn out
> > for you. Be sure to include the OP's original post to this list as
> > well.
> >
> 
> Yeah well you should have looked yourself first, the faculty staff is
> here: http://www.uc-bcf.edu.ph/Programs/Faculty?College=CITCS
> And, as I stated in my original reply, they don't post their mails. I
> do my homework first.

Really, it took me just seconds to find this address:
<email@uc-bcf.edu.ph>. I have just sent a message to that address
requesting that it be routed to his instructor, Ms. Nancy M. Flores
requesting clarification on this assignment, particularly whether it is
considered outside the bounds of the assignment to contact the FreeBSD
mailing list directly. I included the OP's original post to this group
so as to eliminate any confusion on her part.

-- 
Jerry ✌
jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net

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