From owner-freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 2 12:12:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9596F16A419 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2008 12:12:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew.hotlab@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s35.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s35.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B27F13C442 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2008 12:12:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew.hotlab@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY138-DS2 ([64.4.49.29]) by bay0-omc1-s35.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 2 Jan 2008 04:12:25 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [217.133.1.92] X-Originating-Email: [andrew.hotlab@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: "Andrew Hotlab" To: "Alexander Leidinger" In-Reply-To: <20071220083441.uo6hmypq84ssoowc@webmail.leidinger.net><20071220164656.1acd2b45@deskjail> <20071230004139.yvolsno8gsks0k0g@webmail.leidinger.net> References: <20071220083441.uo6hmypq84ssoowc@webmail.leidinger.net><20071220164656.1acd2b45@deskjail> <20071230004139.yvolsno8gsks0k0g@webmail.leidinger.net> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 13:12:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Unsent: 1 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jan 2008 12:12:25.0538 (UTC) FILETIME=[BC757220:01C84D38] Cc: FreeBSD-Jail Subject: Re: How to better update a jail host system X-BeenThere: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion about FreeBSD jail\(8\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 12:12:25 -0000 -------------------------------------------------- From: "Alexander Leidinger" Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 12:41 AM To: "Andrew Hotlab" Cc: "FreeBSD-Jail" Subject: Re: How to better update a jail host system >> I've spent some time on the past days to find how to build a world >> which contains only the "Binary base" and "man" distributions (as I >> always select from the sysinstall menu options during the first server >> setup), but I didn't found any article or man page which helped me. > > I don't know exactly what is in the binary and man dists, but what you > need to do is either to just grab the new dists from an FTP server and > extract them over the old ones, or to have a look what is installed by a > make world what is not in those dists and have a look for WITHOUT_ knobs > which exclude those parts from the build/install. There may be not enough > WITHOU_ knobs to produce those dists, as they are generated in a > different way (make release). Ok, thank you Alexander! But what do you think about upgrading the server on the "installed binary distribution" basis? Perhaps it sounds good to me because I'm coming from Windows Server experience (where it's important to maintain only the Windows components you need, in order to reduce the attack surface). Maintaining as few as possible binary distributions is so important in FreeBSD too, or it helps only to grow unnecessary system complexity? TIA Andrew