From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Apr 9 07:44:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA23188 for chat-outgoing; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 07:44:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nimbus.superior.net (root@nimbus.superior.net [206.153.96.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA23159 for ; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 07:43:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from exidor@localhost) by nimbus.superior.net (8.8.5/8.8.5-RB) id KAA08954; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 10:43:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970409104345.MY14132@@> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 10:43:45 -0400 From: exidor@superior.net (Christopher Masto) To: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FW: Unix Gurus shift to Microsoft (fwd) References: <199704090433.VAA01786@rah.star-gate.com> <199704090512.OAA24420@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.59.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199704090512.OAA24420@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>; from Michael Smith on Apr 9, 1997 14:42:50 +0930 Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Michael Smith writes: > Amancio Hasty stands accused of saying: > > May I ask what is so stupid about WebTv? > > You ask this of someone with a predisposition towards 19" screens with > .26 or better dot pitch? I've used computers that are designed for TV > output (I love playing Descent on projection TV's 8), and I'm not sure > which of the thought of trying to browse the web as it exists on a TV > screen or considering what it will become in order to be usable on a > TV revolts me more. It's not the picture that's the problem. It's a proprietary box that only talks to "WebTV Networks". This is not what the web or the Internet is about. At least Microsoft (currently) bundles Windows 95 with a standard PPP dialer in addition to their prominently displayed MSN crap. It may not be obvious to the average user, but it's _possible_ to choose an ISP based on other factors than what Microsoft wants you to believe. With WebTV, there is no such choice. And from what I've heard, some of the people out in rural areas have been rather startled to recieve thousand-dollar telephone bills because it's been silently calling the "nearest" POP. Microsoft refuses to accept its big failures (MSNBC, MSN, etc.) but MSN _is_ a failure. Maybe this is another way to get a piece of the dialup action. Windows 97 now with ActiveWebTVExplorer. Hell, built into your TV. You turn it on, it calls 1-900-MSWEBTV at $2.95/min. -- Christopher Masto . . . . chris@masto.com . . . . . Masto Consulting: info@masto.com perl -e 'map{vec($x,$_>$}?$_+$y:$_+($y+=8),1)=1;$}=$_}split//,"12360123". "562456503460256245650565460256145623565360560156013560256145613";print$x' On Ethics, Congressional: I've got 423 dairy farmers in my district, and I've got to rise above principle. - Tennessee State Representative John Bragg, on why he was for [fair trade - pricing] price controls on milk but against it for liquors