From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 17 06:39:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE24537B405 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 06:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail12.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181BB43F3F for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 06:39:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@baldwin.cx) Received: (qmail 4343 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 13:39:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender )encrypted SMTP for ; 17 Jul 2003 13:39:50 -0000 Received: from zion.baldwin.cx (zion.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.7]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6HDdnGI025672; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:39:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from john@baldwin.cx) Received: from zion.baldwin.cx (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zion.baldwin.cx (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6HDdnPg076427; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:39:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from john@zion.baldwin.cx) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by zion.baldwin.cx (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6HDdjHK076423; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:39:45 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Luigi Rizzo , Garance A Drosihn Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:06:51 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20030717080805.GA98878@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030717033620.B51802@xorpc.icir.org> In-Reply-To: <20030717033620.B51802@xorpc.icir.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200307170906.51902.jhb@FreeBSD.org> cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Things to remove from /rescue X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:39:53 -0000 On Thursday 17 July 2003 06:36 am, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 05:43:10AM -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > > At 1:08 AM -0700 7/17/03, David O'Brien wrote: > > >This is a list of binaries that I don't feel should be part > > >of /rescue as it's mission is to recover/rebuild a "broken" / > > >[due to all the binaries being dynamic]. Is there > > >justification for keeping them? > > This is a crunched binary, so space is really not a big issue (plus, > the basic set of libraries is probably some 300-400Kb, so discussing > about adding/removing components which take 2-3 KB such as date, > sleep, comcontrol, conscontrol is just pointless in my opinion; > just convenience should be enough to keep some things around). > > For ipfw/natd, i admit that they might be fatter than what one might > want, but then again they might be useful in case you have to access > the outside world to grab things. What do you save by removing them ? I think this is an excellent point. David, can you provide actual numbers of how much removing each of these programs saves? -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/