From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Apr 4 08:48:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA18914 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 08:48:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA18893 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 08:48:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id RAA03521; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 17:56:24 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199704041556.RAA03521@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Does de driver do 100MBIT Full Duplex? To: dennis@etinc.com (dennis) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 17:56:24 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970404095015.006b3514@etinc.com> from "dennis" at Apr 4, 97 09:49:59 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > The "expectation" is that things that worked before will still work with a new > release, and that there may be problems with new stuff. When there are > problems with old stuff, you have a real perception problem with your product. > There has been much talk about get publicity; getting corporate users to > use FreeBSD, but until you get to a point where loading a new release is much > less than a crapshoot It's just not going to happen on a widespread basis. It is quite explicit that 2.1.7 is the stable branch and 2.2 is the experimental one. By choosing 2.2 you must know you are taking some risks. Unfortunately 2.2 has quite a few interesting features (such as WORM support, better PCI support, more supported hw etc.); this might be tempting for people and make them forget what is supposed to be stable and what is not. As for extensive testings: troubles often come out in a production environment, not in quick tests done between ALPHA and BETA. And I (as probably others) did not feel like putting a snap on a production machine (with some exceptions; our web server is running a pre 2.0.5 version, but that was just a lucky experiment and the server did not exist before). So people who really want to help should IMHO move to 2.2 and test the release as much as possible, so that the next one can have bugs fixed. Luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________