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Date:      Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:54:23 +0200
From:      Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>
To:        Jerome Herman <jherman@dichotomia.fr>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:20:29 +0200, Jerome Herman wrote:
> On 19/07/2011 08:11, Polytropon wrote:
> > Arguing... what is easier at manually locating software using
> > a web browser, manually downloading it and interactively
> > holding the installer's hand while installing software? :-)
> Well, of course installing is easier. But package management is not just 
> about installing.

Of course it's not _that_ simple. :-)



> Rigid packages won't allow fine grained tweaking that you might need.

In such cases, compiling from source seems to be the
preferred method - which is still possible on PC-BSD,
although it's often suggested to stay with PBI.



> > You could create a port that brings all this functionality
> > in one rush. Remember that the ports collection is more than
> > just about installing software - it can be used to even
> > bring such features to the system and configure them.
> A port that would reboot in single user, use tunefs to activate ACL here 
> and there, activate MAC and move most users to an LDAP auth ? I don't 
> think so.
> Actually I would be scared if such a port was accepted in the port tree.

In fact, that would be dangerous - especially if used
by people who have no clue about what they're doing.

What I was refering to is the ability of a meta-port
to install a selected mix of ports, apply configuration
and provide templates for common configurations. Of
course it's up to the admin to instantiate those new
functionality on the system.




-- 
Polytropon
Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...



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