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Date:      Sun, 24 Jul 2011 09:17:54 -0600
From:      Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Android (Re: 2020: Will BSD and Linux be relevant anymore?)
Message-ID:  <20110724151754.GA82266@guilt.hydra>
In-Reply-To: <20110724074846.GA15740@tinyCurrent>
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On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 09:48:46AM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote:
> El d=EDa Sunday, July 24, 2011 a las 06:41:57AM -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.=
com escribi=F3:
> > Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > If Android actually exposed more of the Linux underpinnings
> > > it might be somewhat useful to me ...
> >=20
> > There _is_ a development kit.  I have no idea what-all is involved
> > in setting it up, but if someone were sufficiently motivated it
> > would presumably be possible to develop an app to provide access
> > to bash (and thence any other desired command-line tools).
>=20
> Why do you want to use the closed Android if there is an OpenSource,
> Linux based cellphone, having shell, X11, GPS, GPRS, Wifi, USB ethernet,
> x11vnc, ... etc.
>=20
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page
> http://www.unixarea.de/openmoko.txt

I considered that.  Unfortunately, it does not suffice.  The OpenMoko
project suffers some pretty significant hardware issues -- such as, in
some cases, lack of necessary hardware to achieve anything close to
functionality parity with common Android devices.  It does not even
provide G3 access, which is a minimal piece of functionality for a
smartphone to be worth having, according to my preferences at least.

I wish circumstances were different.  I would much prefer something like
OpenMoko if it provided what I needed.  I would even accept a slightly
slower processor, no accelerometer, no GPS, and several other
shortcomings compared to the hardware in my current Android smartphone,
but the lack of G3 support -- especially in combination to some hardware
quality issues that have come up for several people I know who have
OpenMoko devices mouldering in drawers right now -- ensures it is not
worth my while to spend real money on one.

--=20
Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]

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