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Date:      Thu, 24 Oct 2013 15:21:23 -0500
From:      Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com>
To:        marino@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Cc:        John Marino <freebsd.contact@marino.st>
Subject:   Re: NO_STAGE: Bump PORTREVISION ? Pr class 'change' or 'update' ?
Message-ID:  <B7212F8BFC84E703644B3E2D@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <5268D885.8010801@marino.st>
References:  <alpine.BSF.2.00.1310240931590.54762@probsd.c0c0.intra> <5268D885.8010801@marino.st>

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--On October 24, 2013 10:21:25 AM +0200 John Marino 
<freebsd.contact@marino.st> wrote:

> On 10/24/2013 10:05, Marco Steinbach wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> the 'FAQ on PORTREVISION' discussion found at [1] seems to suggest, that
>> enabling staging does not require a PORTREVISION bump.
>>
>> On the other hand, enabling staging seems to be a change in packaging,
>> although from a users perspective the packaged files don't change.  And
>> a change in packaging is said to require a bump in PORTREVISION,
>> according to the referenced thread.
>
> Are you referring to man pages?  I believe those were getting added to
> the plist internally before, so the final difference in plist before and
> after staging is zero (if man pages are the only item in question).
>
>
>> When enabling staging, is a maintainer supposed to bump PORTREVISION ?
>
>
> I don't see many PORTREVISION bumps as result of stage conversion
> (only).  So I think not.
>

I am working on a perfect example of why PORTREVISION MUST be bumped.  I 
maintain security/barnyard2, which requires an update for reasons other 
than STAGE.  As with any port, if I have to update it, I'm also going to 
comply with the latest architecture (as I did when OPTIONS changed), so I'm 
including a change to use STAGE.

There is a slave port, security/barnyard2-sguil, which has STAGE= no in its 
Makefile.  If I don't bump the PORTREVISION, that port will not update and 
subsequently will not build, because it's expecting the parent port NOT to 
be using STAGE.  So I need to use PORTREVISION to force clients to pickup 
the change to STAGE in_both_ports or they won't work at all.

I suspect that what's happened is that, without guidance, port maintainers 
are choosing both options for various reasons, which leads to inconsistency 
in the ports tree.  ISTM a change as major as STAGE should REQUIRE that 
PORTREVISION be bumped.

-- 
Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst
As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions
are my own and not those of my employer.
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