From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 07:10:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FDA810656C1 for ; Sat, 10 May 2008 07:10:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45EFA8FC26 for ; Sat, 10 May 2008 07:10:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@FreeBSD.org) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BDDA107935; Sat, 10 May 2008 02:54:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 10 May 2008 02:54:05 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: dBtRzzzKWXlKL18mrBnODFIiGy28/YWOgfbChAXkWVuC 1210402444 Received: from empiric.lon.incunabulum.net (82-35-112-254.cable.ubr07.dals.blueyonder.co.uk [82.35.112.254]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A6511B341; Sat, 10 May 2008 02:54:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4825468B.3050307@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 07:54:03 +0100 From: "Bruce M. Simpson" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080423) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Zaphod Beeblebrox References: <4824F1B4.6010302@elischer.org> <5f67a8c40805092057y166d549x2dc2fe397f016c79@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5f67a8c40805092057y166d549x2dc2fe397f016c79@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Julian Elischer , FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: Multiple routing table support commited X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 07:10:26 -0000 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: > > >> I have committed the base of teh Multi-routing-table support. >> I am current;y waiting for it to loop back to me before a final >> make universe test, but I think it should be ok. >> if you do nothing you should not see any difference. >> >> for a description of what and how, look at: >> >> >> http://perforce.freebsd.org/fileViewer.cgi?FSPC=//depot/user/julian/routing/plan.txt >> > > > >From my read of your file, this doesn't address FreeBSD's utter lack of what > they often call an RIB --- where routes are chosen to be put into the FIB. > Zebra does this to some extent, but there is one glaring case where zebra > cannot fix the problem and FreeBSD's actions need be improved. > Please read the history of this thread, as there has been extensive discussion on this subject. FreeBSD doesn't need to have a RIB, that's a job for routing control plane software such as XORP and Quagga/Zebra. There are strong arguments against using the kernel forwarding tables as an exchange medium, the strongest one being "that's not what it's for". Thanks. BMS