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Date:      Wed, 10 Oct 2001 12:41:40 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Mike Silbersack <silby@silby.com>
To:        Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>
Cc:        Garrett Wollman <wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>, <cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org>, <cvs-all@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/kern kern_proc.c kern_prot.c uipc_socket.c uipc_usrreq.c src/sys/netinet raw_ip.c tcp_subr.c udp_usrreq.c
Message-ID:  <20011010123813.U23388-100000@achilles.silby.com>
In-Reply-To: <xzpy9mjfq4z.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no>

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On 10 Oct 2001, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:

> Garrett Wollman <wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> writes:
> > <<On 10 Oct 2001 17:17:59 +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org> said:
> > > > "Unprivileged processes may see subjects/objects with different real uid"
> > > Would people mind a lot if this variable defaulted to 0?
> > Hell yes.
>
> That's not a constructive response.
>
> To me, the ability of unprivileged users to obtain information about
> other users' processes and sockets is

a) Normal to most (all?) unixes.

You're going to confuse a lot of people if you disable it by default.

Don't get me wrong, being able to hide the information is a great feature,
and should be used on shell servers and the like.  However, it's not a
good default.

Mike "Silby" Silbersack


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