From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 8 0:38:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bamboo.verinet.com (bamboo.verinet.com [204.144.246.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88A4F158F8 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:38:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from allenc@verinet.com) Received: from struct. (allenc.verinet.com [199.45.180.181]) by bamboo.verinet.com (8.8.8/8.7.1) with ESMTP id BAA12565; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 01:36:36 -0600 Received: from verinet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by struct. (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA00915; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 01:36:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from allenc@verinet.com) Message-ID: <370C5C7F.586A0C81@verinet.com> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 01:36:31 -0600 From: Allen Campbell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wayne M Barnes Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: mail relaying denied References: <199904071047.KAA16889@klentaq1.emergingtech.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wayne M Barnes wrote: > > Dear Javier, > > Thank you very much. This worked. > > Now I would like to suggest that the FreeBSD 3.1 install and make > world should have done this for me. Evidently this new 'feature' is > part of an upgraded sendmail that is in 3.1 for the first time recently, > so the install should provide my poor computer with its own domain > authorized in the new file /etc/mail/relay-domains. > > Then the user that learns more about the new sendmail > filtering can always tighten it up later, if necessary. Luckily, > I had only two users using Pegasus (I suppose Eudora would have had > the same problem). It could have been dozens. My poor users popped with > their login names and passwords. Who knew that sendmail would now consider > their W95 systems to be real computers? So, what you are saying is a feature added to Sendmail to repress the explosive growth of spam now taking place should be automatically subverted by FreeBSD to avoid inconveniencing some administrators who haven't kept up with contemporary email issues? Consider how the press would read when the world discovered FreeBSD implemented this, thereby making it easier for spammers to relay spam through FreeBSD hosts. Suddenly the perception, if not the reality, becomes; 'Freebsd, the Spam friendly OS'. Brilliant. This feature was added to Sendmail for a good reason and this feature has not been tampered with by FreeBSD for a good reason. The reason is obvious. I had zero involvement in any of these decisions, yet this is clear to me. BTW, upgrades to production servers mandate testing. Your 'poor users' would really appreciate this. If you get burned by something you didn't test the best policy is to humbly correct the problem and then practice silence. -- Allen Campbell | Lurking at the bottom of the allenc@verinet.com | gravity well, getting old. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message