From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 8 17:17:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60338106564A for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 17:17:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from mail-gx0-f21.google.com (mail-gx0-f21.google.com [209.85.217.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256178FC21 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 17:17:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: by gxk14 with SMTP id 14so8247947gxk.19 for ; Wed, 08 Oct 2008 10:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.174.8 with SMTP id w8mr3716258wfe.33.1223486257848; Wed, 08 Oct 2008 10:17:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.255.21 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 10:17:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 10:17:37 -0700 From: "Peter Wemm" To: "Vadim Goncharov" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20081007225414.CDFA74500F@ptavv.es.net> Cc: svn-src-all Subject: Re: *** HEADS UP *** FreeBSD.org commit mail list changes X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:17:39 -0000 On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 2:10 AM, Vadim Goncharov wrote: > 08.10.08 @ 05:54 Kevin Oberman wrote: > >>> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 15:47:08 -0700 >>> From: "Peter Wemm" >>> Sender: owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org >>> >>> *** HEADS UP *** > > [...] >> >> Thanks for the POLA violation. I think this will cause far fewer >> problems than making every subscriber update manually and I'm not even >> sure it is a violation. I'd find not getting src commit messages very >> astonishing! >> >> Anyone who read cvs-src should really be able to handle this change >> without all that much upset. > > What the fuck?! > > I've had cvs-src@ set to nomail, could write but msgs were not delivered. > I've read them via Gmane, my NNTP newsreader offers very flexible way to > filter them. Now, mail lists are switched WITHOUT 'nomail', and my local > hard drive is being spammed, instead of NNTP (and freebsd.org also wastes > resources fot that, eh?). And worse, I just CAN'T disable it again: when I > trying to login to http://lists.freebsd.org for svn-src-all@, it simply says > about authorization error! > > Moreover, this change is pain in the ass for all users who don't care about > SVN switch - while CVSUP/CSUP is in use, it is not-so-worth to care. And it > is now more difficult to manage for those who were used to cvs-all@ - a > bunch of lists instead of one. Mailman DOESN'T give me interface to manage > all my subscriptions at once - I must go and login for every one! > > I've heard several complains about this spamming change on local IRC > channels. > > Breaking POLA is bad. The password reminder thing isn't that hard. Go to the single list that I subscribed you to. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all then click on "unsubscribe or edit options". Type your email addres. Instead of entering a password you cllick 'send password to me'. It shouldn't take much more than 30-60 seconds. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/svn-src-all -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; KI6FJV "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 "If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete themselves upon execution." -- Robert Sewell