From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 28 05:03:27 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91DB4DF9390 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 05:03:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic304-21.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic304-21.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.179.146]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29DF3760B1 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 05:03:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: blkJqIIVM1nf1IMiCyL2RsmzD34vLcc3ml4ISCKe5pO.IZ.oO3.fpXRLRvUq61n qT0bje1567yo9Hlj0HvgX9IbXekdFAW9VUxrb4y2lfGqEttmwDiPVZnsAK472nqUaeY1MjDlkkdb DfwRoVdZYVAKLz3Zd9FQNuQeX5Vdgt0FLFcGRxX7crtsQ8p7FdYGOtEjS825SrtEYgzdTaXCQdfZ oaSo7V6StZBQv4dDf1LqTFfpvAuxD7NI.v1OokgF7LiH_66tl0Norcwu5QhWC2L99AYVnhlpAk4s IPzp1dphGUvh8i8vc032I1fI.6p3SXsNhbRhp28ozQnarZq.CusUR_.sWPx0IDv_9jmYJlTlHmfn 0d7g4LCHWa2roR9bi9kbYS8wV89NFwz6Y3TLp.G3I4DrSebS7pCzRpR8tGgw9ccfntAiD37DQheX k84PP2.v0m5NZ5ya.NN.PqPIgu9katbos2j0Udgsw4GQyBnpBO4MBhq_OWXmupReSn8SlUMYC_OV TE1X1P.XTMbSd.M3w9UpHfy4sXhKRkA1YwvuPUoz0YWrErHW5BrAn3R_xim99gGMFCaPtN0ynIbo AW2U- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic304.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 05:03:19 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp107.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Nov 2017 05:03:17 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 419127.21635.bm@smtp107.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: blkJqIIVM1nf1IMiCyL2RsmzD34vLcc3ml4ISCKe5pO.IZ. oO3.fpXRLRvUq61nqT0bje1567yo9Hlj0HvgX9IbXekdFAW9VUxrb4y2lfGq EttmwDiPVZnsAK472nqUaeY1MjDlkkdbDfwRoVdZYVAKLz3Zd9FQNuQeX5Vd gt0FLFcGRxX7crtsQ8p7FdYGOtEjS825SrtEYgzdTaXCQdfZoaSo7V6StZBQ v4dDf1LqTFfpvAuxD7NI.v1OokgF7LiH_66tl0Norcwu5QhWC2L99AYVnhlp Ak4sIPzp1dphGUvh8i8vc032I1fI.6p3SXsNhbRhp28ozQnarZq.CusUR_.s WPx0IDv_9jmYJlTlHmfn0d7g4LCHWa2roR9bi9kbYS8wV89NFwz6Y3TLp.G3 I4DrSebS7pCzRpR8tGgw9ccfntAiD37DQheXk84PP2.v0m5NZ5ya.NN.PqPI gu9katbos2j0Udgsw4GQyBnpBO4MBhq_OWXmupReSn8SlUMYC_OVTE1X1P.X TMbSd.M3w9UpHfy4sXhKRkA1YwvuPUoz0YWrErHW5BrAn3R_xim99gGMFCaP tN0ynIboAW2U- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 06:03:18 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Questions About Message-ID: <20171128060318.7e1df700@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: References: <20171127170322.7aaca527bebc2ec32ec95c58@sohara.org> <25393.128.135.52.6.1511807312.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.0git132 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 05:03:27 -0000 On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 17:36:55 -0500, Baho Utot wrote: >On 11/27/17 13:28, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >Actually Arch Linux is the best documented system. A good example that already Linux distros differ a lot. I'm an Arch Linux user. One big difference between FreeBSD and all Linux distros might be the file system. However, the Arch Linux policy differs a lot to other major Linux distros. >> Over 5 years ago I started seriously looking which system to migrate >> Linux servers to. The reason (one of them) was: on average you have >> to reboot Linux every 45 days. There is either kernel update or >> glibc update, so you have to reboot. Compared to that FreeBSD only >> has updates requiring reboot about once a year. Recently there were >> other big turns Linux took which very many who use Linux dislike a >> lot (systemd, firewalld, and friends). A kernel update not necessarily requires a reboot, let alone that there are different upgrade strategies. Some Linux distros stay very long with the same software releases and only provide security updates and fixes of serious bugs, other distros, especially a rolling release such as Arch Linux, even when using a long term support kernel, are close to upstream and usually provide the latest stable releases of software. Partial upgrades are nearly impossible, they are frowned upon. One big differences between Arch Linux and FreeBSD is that FreeBSD stays longer with the same software releases, than Arch Linux does. As for all differences between operating systems, neither approach is better than the other, resp. it is important related to the user's needs. But there are distros, e.g. one very known, that isn't for free as in beer, that follow a contrary policy to the rolling release model. Something that FreeBSD and all Linux distros have in common is, that hardware support is less good than for Microsoft and Apple operating systems. I guess it's easier to provide an overview about the differences between BSD and Linux, when limiting it to a specific domain. A contrasting juxtaposition unlikely makes it easy to decide, if BSD or Linux is the better choice for a specific domain, but at least the list of comparison would be shorter and experts for specific domains could provide information based on experiences.