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Date:      Sun, 26 Mar 95 11:31:59 MST
From:      terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert)
To:        dfr@nlsys.demon.co.uk (Doug Rabson)
Cc:        kaleb@x.org, kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de, hackers@freefall.cdrom.com
Subject:   Re: Mosaic with Lesstif
Message-ID:  <9503261832.AA06727@cs.weber.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.91.950326143917.456B-100000@kipper.nonlinear.com> from "Doug Rabson" at Mar 26, 95 02:40:20 pm

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> I don't know about this one, but there is a free Motif project called 
> lesstif:
> 
> 	http://www.cs.uidaho.edu:8000/hungry/microshaft/lesstif.html
> 
> It is a long way from complete though.	

It is barely more than about a third of the required header files
and a tiny portion of the code stubbing several widgets.


On the other hand, Mimic (the Motif clone I've been working on) has
all header files, all widget data instances, and sufficient working
code to run two chapters worth each of Young's and O'Reilly's
examples.

It also compiles and links (but doesn't run because of missing code)
almost all of the Motif requiring code from ftp.x.org.  Including
the Xmt toolkit, and all other publically available book samples (I
now have a huge Motif library).

Among the stuff that it can't compile is the FTP program, which has
promiscuous knowledge of several internal-and-undocumented font
list global variables in two of its inherited widgets, and uses
several undocumented manifest constants instead of XtInherit.


I've been thinking about throwing the code open for developement
in general, but haven't decided on all of the ground rules yet.
Several of them will have to be:

1)	You can *not* own a copy of Motif; this is  to avoid the
	possibility of contamination.

2)	You may only create interfaces exposed in the OSF and
	other Motif books and example code.  This is also to
	avoid contamination.

3)	Berkeley or X style copyright only, on all files.  No
	GPL.  This is a base requirement because WINE and related
	projects might want to use the code.


Anyway, if there's sufficient interest, I'll work on cleaning
the code up and finding a net connected site to host it, as
well as fleshing out the goals/etc..


					Terry Lambert
					terry@cs.weber.edu
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Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
or previous employers.



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