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Date:      Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:02:14 +0200
From:      "Helmut Schneider" <jumper99@gmx.de>
To:        freebsd-pf@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: freebsd-pf Stealth Modus
Message-ID:  <hakdb6$kvt$1@ger.gmane.org>
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文鳥 <bunchou@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:40:36 +0200
> "Helmut Schneider" <jumper99@gmx.de> wrote:
>> I know the term "stealth firewall" very well. It's a worthless
>> marketing buzzword. It suggests users that it could prevent an attack
>> or even the scan itself. Neither is correct. This is what I wanted to
>> point out and I was encouraged by the fact that the OP was talking
>> about "stealthing" open ports.
>
> Ok, I totally agree with your reasoning when it comes to the open
> ports and useless marketing hype. Nevertheless, I think that the word
> "stealth" fits very well in the case of closed ports as it makes it
> a (slight) bit harder to find if a host is up or not.

Well, I still disagree.

> Anyway, even if the OP's mail was a bit misleading, I think
> it would have helped him more if you had just explained what
> 'stealth' actually means, why you and steered him into the right
> direction in addition to what you wrote. And it would also have
> prevented this prolonged and utterly useless discussion we were
> leading ;)

Again I disagree, I expect this discussion to be useful for many others.

But I agree, we should stop at that point. :)

Helmut 





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