From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Mar 23 00:32:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA07093 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 00:32:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horst.bfd.com (horst.bfd.com [204.160.242.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA07068 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 00:32:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ejs@bfd.com) Received: from harlie.bfd.com (bastion.bfd.com [204.160.242.14]) by horst.bfd.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA21946; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 00:32:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ejs@bfd.com) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 00:32:45 -0800 (PST) From: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" To: Terry Lambert cc: fhackers@jraynard.demon.co.uk, toniel@flash.net, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd-hackers-digest V4 #75 In-Reply-To: <199803222330.QAA29641@usr06.primenet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Terry Lambert wrote: > > And while I have seen a lot of spam from earthlink as well, effective > > procmail filters get rid of almost all of it (95% in my experience, and > > I've made some improvements that seem to have taken that up to 98-99%). > > The best thing about destination filtering like this is that you get > to pay to download the SPAM before you throw it away, so it can count > against your 200 hours (~8 days) before message units kick in on ISDN > links from non-flat-rate providers like Pac Bell and US West (among > others). > > Oh wait, that's not why destination filtering is a *good* idea, that's > why it's a *stupid* idea... Stupid for your situation, Terry, not for mine. Blocking all hotmail is not fine for us, because some of our customers are using hotmail. So we're to punish everyone that uses an email address who's domain has ever been forged? We don't have metered usage, and aren't near capacity either, so it's not a serious cost. For the record, I still go through every spam we receive and contact the ISP of the injection point if it's apparent, and notify anyone that looks like they got used as an unwitting relay, and my time is probably a much more significant cost than the bandwith of 3% of our email, which even that is a drop in the bucket compared to how much surfing gets done during lunch around here. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message