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Date:      Thu, 29 Mar 2007 08:28:25 -0600
From:      Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>
To:        =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= <des@des.no>
Cc:        FreeBSD Tinderbox <tinderbox@freebsd.org>, Matteo Riondato <matteo@freebsd.org>, i386@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Subject:   Re: [head tinderbox] failure on i386/i386
Message-ID:  <460BCD09.9030409@samsco.org>
In-Reply-To: <86wt10qyqw.fsf@dwp.des.no>
References:  <20070323212254.54F7D73039@freebsd-current.sentex.ca>	<20070323214145.GA3822@krapfengeist> <46044D6C.1070304@samsco.org>	<86648lsmmu.fsf@dwp.des.no>	<20070328181335.GA24652@xor.obsecurity.org> <86wt10qyqw.fsf@dwp.des.no>

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Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> writes:
>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 12:11:53PM +0200, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote:
>>> No, the tinderbox just uses -O2 (which implies -fno-strict-aliasing).
>> No, it implies -fstrict-aliasing,
> 
> Sorry, typo on my part.  I meant what you said.
> 
>> which is why the tinderbox often breaks on code that was tested 100%
>> correctly by the committer prior to running with your nonstandard
>> flags ;)
> 
> The code was obviously not tested 100% correctly, as the C standard
> forbids aliasing.  Unfortunately, there are people in this project who
> systematically oppose any attempt to improve code quality, especially
> when it comes to their own code, and they have succeeded to the extent
> that not only is -O2 not the default, but the kernel build system is
> even instrumented to prevent its full use.
> 
> DES

I think you need to chill out quite a bit and stop assuming that people
are incompetent and out to get you.

Scott




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