From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 4 10:39:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08293 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:39:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from laker.net (jet.laker.net [205.245.74.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08285 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:39:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sfriedri@laker.net) Received: from nt (digital-pbi-141.laker.net [208.0.233.41]) by laker.net (8.9.0/8.9.LAKERNET.NO-SPAM.SPAMMERS.AND.RELAYS.WILL.BE.TRACKED.AND.PROSECUTED.) with SMTP id NAA20945; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:39:14 -0500 Message-Id: <199811041839.NAA20945@laker.net> From: "Steve Friedrich" To: "David Wolfskill" , "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" , "gaylord@gaylord.async.vt.edu" Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 13:37:46 -0500 Reply-To: "Steve Friedrich" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (4.0.1381;3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: has this been fixed? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:59:25 -0800 (PST), David Wolfskill wrote: >>From: Clark Gaylord >>Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 22:29:28 -0500 (EST) > >>> Just out of curiousity, how did the threshold for "a bit too long" get >>> determined? Is this defined in the IDE standard? Did someone conduct > >>IDE standard? You are funny. Let me guess, that's published on >>www.snakeoil.com, right? > >Ummm.... I didn't ask the original question, but it's not at all clear >to me why it should be "funny." > >Given that someone evidently thinks it is, I gether from context that >the phrase "IDE standard" is a reference to a nonentity? Is there an >expectation that anyone who might ever want to use a FreeBSD system >should know this? IMHO, anyone who uses PC hardware had better be aware that an IDE standard does not exist!! Manufacturers have been making it up as they go along. SCSI isn't really that much better. SCSI 1 devices from different manufacturers frequently couldn't *talk*, due to ambiguities in the spec. SCSI 2 is better, but many manufacturers were selling SCSI 2 devices before the spec was ratified (I think everyone stopped producing SCSI 1 devices just before SCSI 1 spec got ratified), and SCSI 3 (well, let's not go there). >And what would the Chicago Tribune have to do with it? Does the Tribune own the www.snakeoil.com domain?? Unix systems measure "uptime" in years, Winblows measures it in minutes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message