From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 00:10:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA30D16A4CE; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 00:10:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [66.154.97.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF92543D1D; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 00:10:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB92EAE067; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 00:10:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nezlok.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08800-02; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 00:10:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C33B7AE062; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040222081002.C33B7AE062@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2004-02-01 - 2004-02-21 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:10:11 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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These are the articles posted during this period: 1-Feb : Bacula: Cross-Platform Client-Server Backups You need this network backup solution. http://freebsddiary.org/bacula.php?2 -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 00:40:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25C6B16A4D2 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 00:40:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4933743D45 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 00:40:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from kruij557.speed.planet.nl (ipd50a97ba.speed.planet.nl [213.10.151.186]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HTH00C5P9F3RX@smtp01.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:40:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kruij557.speed.planet.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i1M8dfHd003909; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:39:41 +0100 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by alex.lan (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i1M8deEs003908; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:39:40 +0100 Content-return: prohibited Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:39:40 +0100 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: To: "Pratt, Benjamin E." Message-id: <20040222083940.GA892@alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: X-Authentication-warning: alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache FreeBSD not executing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:40:22 -0000 On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 07:02:04PM -0600, Pratt, Benjamin E. wrote: > Hello - > > I'm trying to get my Apache web server up and running with PHP support but am running into problems. When I try to go to a .php web page I'm prompted to save the page instead of having the browser show the page. > > I've installed both /usr/ports/www/apache21/ and /usr/ports/www/mod_php5/ and in my httpd.conf file I've got the lines: > > LoadModule php5_module libexec/apache2/libphp5.so > DirectoryIndex index.html index.html.var index.php > AddType application/x-http-php .php > > I've had this running before but not since I formatted my system, installed FreeBSD 5.1 and then synced my source tree and upgraded the system. I am now running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RC2 #2 from Sat Feb 21 13:55:19 CST 2004. > > I've also tried installing /usr/ports/lang/php5/ and /usr/ports/lang/php4/ and had the same issues. > > Thanks for any help, I run Apache2 with php5 on a FreeBSD 4 box and that works. In order for PHP to work you need to set WITH_APACHE2 in the envorement. For csh shell its: setenv WITH_APACHE2 yes I have these for lines: LoadModule php5_module libexec/apache2/libphp5.so DirectoryIndex index.php index.html index.html.var AddType application/x-httpd-php .php AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps -- Alex Articles based on solutions that I use: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/index.php?dir=docs/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 00:45:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD3516A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 00:45:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83BB143D2D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 00:45:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from kruij557.speed.planet.nl (ipd50a97ba.speed.planet.nl [213.10.151.186]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HTH0052O9ZSTH@smtp02.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:52:41 +0100 (MET) Received: from alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kruij557.speed.planet.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i1M8j7Hd004108; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:45:08 +0100 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by alex.lan (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i1M8j7TK004107; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:45:07 +0100 Content-return: prohibited Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:45:06 +0100 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <200402211258.13361.niel@telia.com> To: Niel Message-id: <20040222084506.GB892@alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <200402211258.13361.niel@telia.com> X-Authentication-warning: alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I have a dream, of a help/manual/doc system, which is simple to use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:45:43 -0000 The website for freebsd is www.freebsd.org and on the main page you can find the handbook which leads to www.freebsd.org/handbook -- Alex Articles based on solutions that I use: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/index.php?dir=docs/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 00:47:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C2916A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 00:47:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from adsl-68-76-19-75.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net (adsl-68-76-19-75.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net [68.76.19.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB50B43D39 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 00:47:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luke@foolishgames.com) Received: from [192.168.2.49] (adsl-67-36-61-233.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net [67.36.61.233]) (authenticated bits=0)ESMTP id i1M8l4r4008429 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 03:47:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from luke@foolishgames.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v612) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG ORG" From: Lucas Holt Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 03:47:56 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.612) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on adsl-68-76-19-75.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 'clamd / ClamAV version 0.65', clamav-milter version '0.60p' Subject: tripwire X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:47:06 -0000 Can someone recommend a program like tripwire for 5.2.1-RC2 FreeBSD? i was using tripwire in 4.x but the port is broken in 5.x. Lucas Holt Luke@FoolishGames.com ________________________________________________________ FoolishGames.com (Jewel Fan Site) JustJournal.com (Free blogging) 'I try to think but nothing happens' -- Homer Jay Simpson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 00:52:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A1316A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 00:52:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from iota.root-servers.ch (iota.root-servers.ch [193.41.193.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD67A43D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 00:52:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gaml@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 63396 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2004 08:52:36 -0000 Received: from 217-162-134-28.dclient.hispeed.ch (HELO ?10.2.2.3?) (217.162.134.28) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Feb 2004 08:52:36 -0000 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:54:54 +0100 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1894541744.20040222095454@buz.ch> To: "Derrick Ryalls" In-Reply-To: <019701c3f916$d293bc80$0201a8c0@aragorn> References: <019701c3f916$d293bc80$0201a8c0@aragorn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MySQL error 2013 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gabriel Ambuehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:52:38 -0000 Hi Derrick Ryalls, you wrote. DR> I have even tried firing up mysqld with --skip-grant-tables to no avail. DR> Googling around, I see lots of reference to glibc issues, but I thought DR> that only applied to Linux. I have tried mysql41-server port (fresh DR> cvsup), mysql40, and a package mysql323, and they all have the same DR> issue. That leads me to believe that the o/s has the issue, not mysql. DR> Does anyone have a clue on what I need to check/upgrade? DR> Current system: FreeBSD 4.9-RC #0: Tue Oct 7 Does your MySQL daemon crash (look at /var/db/mysql/*err) ? Because I'm currently seeing this on CURRENT, but STABLE works perfectly for me... Regards, Gabriel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 01:06:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC99A16A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 01:06:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D5D743D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 01:06:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jan.muenther@nruns.com) Received: from [212.227.126.207] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1AupYW-0007DB-00; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:05:44 +0100 Received: from [212.202.45.45] (helo=ergo.nruns.com) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1AupYW-0005m8-00; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:05:44 +0100 Received: by ergo.nruns.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0B09D6BA; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:05:29 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:05:29 +0100 From: jan.muenther@nruns.com To: Lucas Holt Message-ID: <20040222090529.GA7294@ergo.nruns.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:9a8a46f2b40f7808f7699def63624ac2 cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG ORG" Subject: Re: tripwire X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:06:10 -0000 > Can someone recommend a program like tripwire for 5.2.1-RC2 FreeBSD? Tried this one here? Port: aide-0.9 Path: /usr/ports/security/aide Info: A replacement and extension for Tripwire From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 01:26:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B564016A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 01:26:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from ninja.terrabionic.com (ninja.terrabionic.com [213.187.181.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB8343D1F for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 01:26:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from johann@ninja.terrabionic.com) Received: by ninja.terrabionic.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 30A2C60E6; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:24:29 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:24:28 +0100 From: jsha To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040222072428.GB54683@ninja.terrabionic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD ninja.terrabionic.com 5.2-RELEASE i386 X-Accept-Language: en no my X-Location: Europe, Norway, Bergen Subject: obsolete files? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:26:25 -0000 hello. does make world leave obsolete files on your system after install? without even the slightest effort to remove them? please say it isn't so. i like make world. -- j. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 01:42:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B148B16A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 01:42:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B5943D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 01:42:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from localhost.invalid (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i1M9g69U031196; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 01:42:06 -0800 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 01:42:32 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.6 References: <20040222072428.GB54683@ninja.terrabionic.com> In-Reply-To: <20040222072428.GB54683@ninja.terrabionic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200402220142.32703.kstewart@owt.com> cc: jsha Subject: Re: obsolete files? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:42:34 -0000 On Saturday 21 February 2004 11:24 pm, jsha wrote: > hello. > > does make world leave obsolete files on your system > after install? without even the slightest effort to > remove them? > > please say it isn't so. i like make world. > Worse, it is known to cause fatal situations where you have to use the fixit disk to recover your system or do a reinstall. If you upgrade a kernel that panics, you will be committed to using the bad build. The installworld being run after the installkernel and reboot to single user mode is for your protection. FWIW, even installworld leaves obsolete files on your system at various times. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 02:19:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 619A016A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 02:19:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from iota.root-servers.ch (iota.root-servers.ch [193.41.193.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A65B43D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 02:19:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gaml@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 72765 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2004 10:19:51 -0000 Received: from 217-162-134-28.dclient.hispeed.ch (HELO ?10.2.2.3?) (217.162.134.28) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Feb 2004 10:19:51 -0000 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:22:04 +0100 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1938147128.20040222112204@buz.ch> To: Burkard Meyendriesch In-Reply-To: <20040222073128.19649357.bm@malepartus.de> References: <20040222073128.19649357.bm@malepartus.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CURRENT: RAID1: use vinum(8) or motherboard support (VIA VT8237)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gabriel Ambuehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:19:54 -0000 Hi Burkard Meyendriesch, you wrote. BM> Hi all, BM> for my new -CURRENT box I have to decide wether to use BM> vinum(8) or the on-board capabilities of my Asus K8V Deluxe BM> motherboard for RAID1 mirroring. Which solution would you BM> recommend? Personally, I've always found vinum to be a rather weird piece of software to work with, so I'd suggest you go for onboard RAID, but I0m not sure if VT8237 RAID1 is supported right now (however, atacontrol can also do RAID without any direct support for the chipset). If anything, I'd also look into raid(4). Regards, Gabriel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 02:24:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E5716A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 02:24:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from antsrv1.ant.uni-bremen.de (antsrv1.ant.uni-bremen.de [134.102.176.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0072843D1F for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 02:24:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rebehn@ant.uni-bremen.de) Received: from europa.ant.uni-bremen.de ([134.102.176.10] helo=ant.uni-bremen.de) by antsrv1.ant.uni-bremen.de with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1AuqmR-0000OM-Nl; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:24:11 +0100 Message-ID: <40388FF1.4000004@ant.uni-bremen.de> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:18:09 +0000 From: Heinrich Rebehn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040212 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lowell Gilbert References: <4037A0BB.8030807@ant.uni-bremen.de> <44n07c85md.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44n07c85md.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UNEXPECTED SOFTUPDATES INCONSISTENCY X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:24:13 -0000 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Heinrich Rebehn writes: > > >>I have had the above error 2 times now during fsck after an unclean >>shutdown. fsck -y yielded tons of entries in lost+found. >>man (7) tuning says that softupdates guarantees filesystem consistency >>in case of crash, but thousands of lost files tell a different story. >>Did i miss anything? Or should i disable softupdates for important data? > > > Make sure you've disabled write caching on the drive firmware > itself... Does this also apply for RAID disks (twe)? Also, there is no word about this in man tuning(7). Is this more of a guess or is softupdates definately dangerous with wite cache enabled? I have also used softupdates with 4.9 and did not get these errors. > > >>The system is running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RC2 > > > I hope you have read the Early Adopter's Guide: > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.2R/early-adopter.html Yes i have and after asking others on this list, got the impression that 5.2 is usable for the most common hardware and applications. But now i am seriously considering going back to 4.9 Thanks very much for your reply :-) Heinrich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 02:32:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4179F16A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 02:32:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from antsrv1.ant.uni-bremen.de (antsrv1.ant.uni-bremen.de [134.102.176.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC1443D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 02:32:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rebehn@ant.uni-bremen.de) Received: from europa.ant.uni-bremen.de ([134.102.176.10] helo=ant.uni-bremen.de) by antsrv1.ant.uni-bremen.de with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1AuquG-0000Qh-UO; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:32:16 +0100 Message-ID: <403891D6.9030808@ant.uni-bremen.de> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:26:14 +0000 From: Heinrich Rebehn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040212 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lowell Gilbert References: <4037920D.3060702@ant.uni-bremen.de> <44r7wo85rw.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44r7wo85rw.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hardware or software error ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:32:22 -0000 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Heinrich Rebehn writes: > > >>Hi list, >> >>does anybody have a clue, if the following is a hard or software error? >> >>######################################################################### >> syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel >> kernel: >> kernel: >> kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode >> kernel: cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 >> kernel: fault virtual address = 0x4 >> kernel: fault code = supervisor read, page not present >> kernel: instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0533f98 >> kernel: stack pointer = 0x10:0xe11f6b3c >> kernel: frame pointer = 0x10:0xe11f6b64 >> kernel: code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b >> kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 >> kernel: processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 >> kernel: current process = 29 (swi1: net) >> kernel: trap number = 12 >> kernel: panic: page fault >> kernel: cpuid = 0; >> kernel: >> kernel: syncing disks, buffers remaining... >> kernel: >> kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode >> kernel: cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 >> kernel: fault virtual address = 0x4 >> kernel: fault code = supervisor read, page not present >> kernel: instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0533f98 >> kernel: stack pointer = 0x10:0xe124bbcc >> kernel: frame pointer = 0x10:0xe124bbf4 >> kernel: code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b >> kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 >> kernel: processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 >> kernel: current process = 26 (irq15: xl0 ata1+) >> kernel: trap number = 12 >> kernel: panic: page fault >> kernel: cpuid = 0; >> kernel: Uptime: 3d10h11m49s >>######################################################################### >> >>The system is running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RC2 > > > More likely to be a software problem, although it could be either. > Could you take a kernel dump to the -CURRENT list? I'm afraid my system is not set up to enable crash dumps. I must admit that i never cared about this, and unfortunately, the default install does not seem to enable it either. If i am wrong: where would i find the dump? Also, since this is our main server, i prefer going back to 4.9 which seems to be more solid than 5.2 :-(. I simply don't have time to do more experiments. Thank ayou for your help anyway. Heinrich -- Heinrich Rebehn University of Bremen Physics / Electrical and Electronics Engineering - Department of Telecommunications - Phone : +49/421/218-4664 Fax : -3341 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 02:32:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8156E16A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 02:32:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from iota.root-servers.ch (iota.root-servers.ch [193.41.193.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9550843D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 02:32:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gaml@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 73898 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2004 10:32:45 -0000 Received: from 217-162-134-28.dclient.hispeed.ch (HELO ?10.2.2.3?) (217.162.134.28) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Feb 2004 10:32:45 -0000 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:34:49 +0100 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1664802739.20040222113449@buz.ch> To: Heinrich Rebehn In-Reply-To: <40388FF1.4000004@ant.uni-bremen.de> References: <4037A0BB.8030807@ant.uni-bremen.de> <44n07c85md.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <40388FF1.4000004@ant.uni-bremen.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: UNEXPECTED SOFTUPDATES INCONSISTENCY X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gabriel Ambuehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:32:48 -0000 Hi Heinrich Rebehn, you wrote. >> Make sure you've disabled write caching on the drive firmware >> itself... HR> Does this also apply for RAID disks (twe)? Also, there is no word about HR> this in man tuning(7). Is this more of a guess or is softupdates HR> definately dangerous with wite cache enabled? I'd say it's the other way round: write cache is dangerous with softupdates. Softupdates itself is certainly better than no softupdates, even if it takes a slight performance drop by disabling write cache. I think you should disable the write cache on the 3ware cache (not sure whether there actually is one, mine don't come with any RAM sockets) anyway as you'll lose all data in there in the event of a crash. Regards, Gabriel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 02:43:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F5316A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 02:43:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from antsrv1.ant.uni-bremen.de (antsrv1.ant.uni-bremen.de [134.102.176.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F393043D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 02:43:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rebehn@ant.uni-bremen.de) Received: from europa.ant.uni-bremen.de ([134.102.176.10] helo=ant.uni-bremen.de) by antsrv1.ant.uni-bremen.de with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1Aur4o-0000Sq-SN; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:43:10 +0100 Message-ID: <40389464.1070000@ant.uni-bremen.de> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:37:08 +0000 From: Heinrich Rebehn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040212 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lowell Gilbert References: <4037920D.3060702@ant.uni-bremen.de> <44r7wo85rw.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44r7wo85rw.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hardware or software error ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:43:12 -0000 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Heinrich Rebehn writes: > > >>Hi list, >> >>does anybody have a clue, if the following is a hard or software error? >> >>######################################################################### >> syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel >> kernel: >> kernel: >> kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode >> kernel: cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 >> kernel: fault virtual address = 0x4 >> kernel: fault code = supervisor read, page not present >> kernel: instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0533f98 >> kernel: stack pointer = 0x10:0xe11f6b3c >> kernel: frame pointer = 0x10:0xe11f6b64 >> kernel: code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b >> kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 >> kernel: processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 >> kernel: current process = 29 (swi1: net) >> kernel: trap number = 12 >> kernel: panic: page fault >> kernel: cpuid = 0; >> kernel: >> kernel: syncing disks, buffers remaining... >> kernel: >> kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode >> kernel: cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 >> kernel: fault virtual address = 0x4 >> kernel: fault code = supervisor read, page not present >> kernel: instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0533f98 >> kernel: stack pointer = 0x10:0xe124bbcc >> kernel: frame pointer = 0x10:0xe124bbf4 >> kernel: code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b >> kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 >> kernel: processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 >> kernel: current process = 26 (irq15: xl0 ata1+) >> kernel: trap number = 12 >> kernel: panic: page fault >> kernel: cpuid = 0; >> kernel: Uptime: 3d10h11m49s >>######################################################################### >> >>The system is running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RC2 > > > More likely to be a software problem, although it could be either. > Could you take a kernel dump to the -CURRENT list? I'm afraid my system is not set up to enable crash dumps. I must admit that i never cared about this, and unfortunately, the default install does not seem to enable it either. If i am wrong: where would i find the dump? Also, since this is our main server, i prefer going back to 4.9 which seems to be more solid than 5.2 :-(. I simply don't have time to do more experiments. Update: This morning's crash (which i forget in the mail before): ##################################################################### ntpd[470]: too many recvbufs allocated (40) cron[8309]: login_getclass: unknown class 'des_users' syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel kernel: kernel: kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode kernel: cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 kernel: fault virtual address = 0x4c kernel: fault code = supervisor read, page not present kernel: instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc04cc807 kernel: stack pointer = 0x10:0xe2cccca8 kernel: frame pointer = 0x10:0xe2ccccc8 kernel: code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 kernel: processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 kernel: current process = 38 (usbtask) kernel: trap number = 12 kernel: panic: page fault kernel: cpuid = 0; kernel: kernel: syncing disks, buffers remaining... 7137 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 kernel: giving up on 4591 buffers kernel: Uptime: 14h28m36s kernel: (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x34, scsi status == 0x88 ######################################################################## The "giving up on nnnn Buffers" is also typical for 5.2. I rarely had it with 4.9. Unfortunately, all disks are marked dirty then, even if it is only 1 buffer. Thank ayou for your help anyway. Heinrich -- Heinrich Rebehn University of Bremen Physics / Electrical and Electronics Engineering - Department of Telecommunications - Phone : +49/421/218-4664 Fax : -3341 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 02:54:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7259116A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 02:54:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.mail.uk.clara.net (mx1.mail.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285DB43D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 02:54:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david@carter-hitchin.clara.co.uk) Received: from du-041-0146.access.clara.net ([217.158.117.146] helo=stoat.clara.net) by mx1.mail.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AurGB-000DP3-Am for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:54:55 +0000 Received: from stoat.clara.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stoat.clara.net (8.12.8p2/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i1MAugXN033345 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:56:42 GMT (envelope-from david@carter-hitchin.clara.co.uk) Received: from localhost (david@localhost)i1MAuggs033342 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:56:42 GMT (envelope-from david@carter-hitchin.clara.co.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: stoat.clara.net: david owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:56:42 +0000 (GMT) From: David Carter-Hitchin X-X-Sender: david@stoat.clara.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20040221230536.GA38823@keyslapper.org> Message-ID: <20040222105343.R29625@stoat.clara.net> References: <20040221004102.M268@stoat.clara.net> <20040221230536.GA38823@keyslapper.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-RCPT: freebsd-questions X-Envelope-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Clara-Scan: content scanned according to recipient preferences Subject: Re: C++ Memory Profiling/Debugging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:54:57 -0000 Hi Lou, Thanks - I'll give it a spin. I read with some reservation on http://dmalloc.com/: "Dmalloc is not as good with C++ as C because the dynamic memory routines in C++ are new() and delete() as opposed to malloc() and free(). Since new and delete are usually not used as functions but rather as x =3D new type, there is no easy way for dmalloc to pass in file and line information unfortunately. The `libdmallocxx.a' library provides the file `dmallocc.cc' which effectively redirects new to the more familiar malloc and delete to the more familiar free." I'll give it a go anyway. Wonder if there is a C++ friendly debug tool out there... Thanks, David On Sat, 21 Feb 2004, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > On 02/21/04 12:48 AM, David Carter-Hitchin sat at the `puter and typed: > > Hi, > > > > Does anyone out there know a good C++ memory profiling/debugging tool f= or > > FBSD? I'm looking for a tool like valgrind or purify. I grepped aroun= d > > in the ports directory and I found "ElectricFence" and "mprof" but thes= e > > seem to be for C only (as they refer exclusively to malloc & free). > > "bohem-gc" sounds like the kind of package I'm after - but I thought I = ask > > in case anyone has better ideas... ? > > devel/dmalloc is pretty good. I'm using it with C on Solaris, but all > you do is basically link its library into your process, set a few > environment variables, and it will dump a complete list of statistics, > based on the values of the environment variables. The most valuable > statistic is the origin of every single memory allocation that is not > freed. Simply track those made by your code (file name and line > number of the malloc are given) and fix them. I found it MUCH easier > to integrate and use than Efence or Purify. > > If your process dynamically allocates memory that isn't intended to be > freed, like for internal structure allocation through the life of the > process, you might include a routine that frees such pointers in your > cleanup process. I have a number of things I have to clear that > aren't intended to be freed during the life of the process, so I > simply added them within a conditional precompiler block that only > gets compiled when I'm building a memory debuggable version. > > You wouldn't believe the memory leaks I found in (someone else's) > production code with this tool. HIGHLY recommended. > > Good luck. > > > Please cc me on any replies - I had to drop out of this list sometime a= go > > as the sheer volume was killing my mailbox... > > I know what you mean . . . > > Lou > -- > Louis LeBlanc leblanc@keyslapper.org > Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) > http://www.keyslapper.org =D4=BF=D4=AC > > Unless hours were cups of sack, and minutes capons, and clocks the tongue= s > of bawds, and dials the signs of leaping houses, and the blessed sun hims= elf > a fair, hot wench in flame-colored taffeta, I see no reason why thou shou= ldst > be so superfluous to demand the time of the day. I wasted time and now d= oth > time waste me. > -- William Shakespeare > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 02:59:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 307E816A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 02:59:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from lvlworld.com (dsl-38.226.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au [220.240.226.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BCFFA43D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 02:59:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tigger@onemoremonkey.com) Received: (qmail 2643 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2004 11:00:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lvlworld.com) (192.168.1.120) by eeeor.goo with SMTP; 22 Feb 2004 11:00:33 -0000 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 22:01:33 +1100 From: Tig To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040222220133.4fe1ec77@piglet.goo> In-Reply-To: <443c94cx68.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> References: <20040221213841.76391b1c@piglet.goo> <443c94cx68.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.9claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.2.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.620972, version=0.16.4 Subject: Re: [FAQ pointer] Re: Copy old drive to new drive - is it possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:59:19 -0000 On 21 Feb 2004 09:41:19 -0500 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Tig writes: > > > Hi, I have a hard drive which is on its last legs. I also have new > > hard drive to replace the old one. I was wondering if it is possible > > to simply copy everything from the old drive to the new (after > > formating the new drive) and have my system back up and running, or > > do I need to reinstall the OS and everything else? > > "How do I move my system over to my huge new disk?" > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#NEW-HUGE-DISK > Just for the record. The FAQ link above was very helpful and I now have my old, single disk installation spread across two new, fat hard disks and everything is working great. dump | restore was also very easy to use and very quick. Thanks heaps! -Tig From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 03:04:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B2416A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 03:04:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from antsrv1.ant.uni-bremen.de (antsrv1.ant.uni-bremen.de [134.102.176.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8A143D1F for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 03:04:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rebehn@ant.uni-bremen.de) Received: from europa.ant.uni-bremen.de ([134.102.176.10] helo=ant.uni-bremen.de) by antsrv1.ant.uni-bremen.de with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1AurPI-0000aC-NH; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 12:04:20 +0100 Message-ID: <4038995A.4080503@ant.uni-bremen.de> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:58:18 +0000 From: Heinrich Rebehn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040212 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lowell Gilbert References: <4037920D.3060702@ant.uni-bremen.de> <44r7wo85rw.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44r7wo85rw.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hardware or software error ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:04:22 -0000 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Heinrich Rebehn writes: > > >>Hi list, >> >>does anybody have a clue, if the following is a hard or software error? >> >>######################################################################### >> syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel >> kernel: >> kernel: >> kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode >> kernel: cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 >> kernel: fault virtual address = 0x4 >> kernel: fault code = supervisor read, page not present >> kernel: instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0533f98 >> kernel: stack pointer = 0x10:0xe11f6b3c >> kernel: frame pointer = 0x10:0xe11f6b64 >> kernel: code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b >> kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 >> kernel: processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 >> kernel: current process = 29 (swi1: net) >> kernel: trap number = 12 >> kernel: panic: page fault >> kernel: cpuid = 0; >> kernel: >> kernel: syncing disks, buffers remaining... >> kernel: >> kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode >> kernel: cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 >> kernel: fault virtual address = 0x4 >> kernel: fault code = supervisor read, page not present >> kernel: instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0533f98 >> kernel: stack pointer = 0x10:0xe124bbcc >> kernel: frame pointer = 0x10:0xe124bbf4 >> kernel: code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b >> kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 >> kernel: processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 >> kernel: current process = 26 (irq15: xl0 ata1+) >> kernel: trap number = 12 >> kernel: panic: page fault >> kernel: cpuid = 0; >> kernel: Uptime: 3d10h11m49s >>######################################################################### >> >>The system is running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RC2 > > > More likely to be a software problem, although it could be either. > Could you take a kernel dump to the -CURRENT list? I'm afraid my system is not set up to enable crash dumps. I must admit that i never cared about this, and unfortunately, the default install does not seem to enable it either. If i am wrong: where would i find the dump? Also, since this is our main server, i prefer going back to 4.9 which seems to be more solid than 5.2 :-(. I simply don't have time to do more experiments. Update: This morning's crash (which i forget in the mail before): ##################################################################### ntpd[470]: too many recvbufs allocated (40) cron[8309]: login_getclass: unknown class 'des_users' syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel kernel: kernel: kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode kernel: cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 kernel: fault virtual address = 0x4c kernel: fault code = supervisor read, page not present kernel: instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc04cc807 kernel: stack pointer = 0x10:0xe2cccca8 kernel: frame pointer = 0x10:0xe2ccccc8 kernel: code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 kernel: processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 kernel: current process = 38 (usbtask) kernel: trap number = 12 kernel: panic: page fault kernel: cpuid = 0; kernel: kernel: syncing disks, buffers remaining... 7137 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 kernel: giving up on 4591 buffers kernel: Uptime: 14h28m36s kernel: (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x34, scsi status == 0x88 ######################################################################## The "giving up on nnnn Buffers" is also typical for 5.2. I rarely had it with 4.9. Unfortunately, all disks are marked dirty then, even if it is only 1 buffer. Update: I changed my mind and will continue to try 5.2. I disabled softupdates to get rid of the "softupdates inconsistency error" and set up the machine to enable crash dumps, as described in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html I also clocked down the AMD XP1800+ CPU to 100 MHz bus clock to reduce possible hardware instability. All we have to now is wait for the next crash ;-) Heinrich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 03:36:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ECA216A4CF for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 03:36:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from cloudburst.umist.ac.uk (cloudburst.umist.ac.uk [130.88.119.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63EBA43D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 03:36:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lewiz@red.lewiz.org) Received: from lh014.halls.umist.ac.uk ([130.88.163.14] helo=yellow.lewiz.org) by cloudburst.umist.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AuruZ-0007k9-5U; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:36:39 +0000 Received: from red.lewiz.org ([192.168.0.4]) by mail.lewiz.org with smtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1AurxM-000GTo-UB; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:39:32 +0000 Received: (nullmailer pid 63350 invoked by uid 4001); Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:39:32 -0000 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:39:31 +0000 From: Lewis Thompson To: Lowell Gilbert Message-ID: <20040222113931.GA63311@lewiz.org> Mail-Followup-To: Lewis Thompson , Lowell Gilbert , Rahul Sawarkar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <40378876.2090808@vsnl.com> <44isi0857m.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44isi0857m.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 90A4 939E 3847 A3E4 8103 2A48 22DA B428 542F ED3F X-GPG-Info: http://www.lewiz.org/~lewiz/pgpkey / horowitz.surfnet.nl User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean cc: Rahul Sawarkar cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: framebuffer fro freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:36:41 -0000 --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 04:58:53PM -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Rahul Sawarkar writes: > > is there a framebuffer port for freebsd? > > i want to run my console in 1024x768. >=20 > Why would you want a framebuffer for that? > Do you have frame grabber hardware or something? >=20 > If all you want is a 1024x768 video mode driving the=20 > text console, vidcontrol(1) can do that, but I don't > understand the connection to a frame buffer... Is it just me or does vidcontrol look ugly when compared to Linux's console framebuffer that allows high-resolution console displays? -lewiz. --=20 I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now. --Bob Dylan, 1964. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -| msn:purple@lewiz.net | jabber:lewiz@jabber.org | url:www.lewiz.org |- --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAOJTzItq0KFQv7T8RAlNoAJ9Xm1wX4ByGw72Si9aGX0yFFBiLygCgnnrl F8PPX42Zd+iJNqO+crlgK0k= =q7oa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 04:29:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A991116A4CF for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 04:29:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp2.vsnl.net (smtp2.vsnl.net [203.200.235.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 606EE43D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 04:29:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from torahuls@vsnl.com) Received: from vsnl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.vsnl.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HTH003C6K16M7@smtp2.vsnl.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:59:34 +0530 (IST) Received: from ([219.65.87.19]) by smtp2.vsnl.net (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall Unix); Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:59:34 +0530 (IST) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:42:42 +0000 From: Rahul Sawarkar In-reply-to: <44isi0857m.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> To: Lowell Gilbert Message-id: <403887A2.9050305@vsnl.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20040107 Thunderbird/0.4 References: <40378876.2090808@vsnl.com> <44isi0857m.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: framebuffer fro freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 12:29:35 -0000 Have you tried switching to 1024x768 mode using vidcontrol. I tried and did not suceed on my last hardware which was a mvp4 chipset with an 8mb blade3d graphics. Right now I have a radeon 7500 on a 440bx chipset. I'd assumed it wouldn't work, this time around also (ref: the url below), but maybe I should give it a try. So anyways I figured, maybe a framebufer driver would enable switching.... Thanks for any tips on this front. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2003-June/009789.html Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Rahul Sawarkar writes: > > >>is there a framebuffer port for freebsd? >> i want to run my console in 1024x768. > > > Why would you want a framebuffer for that? > Do you have frame grabber hardware or something? > > If all you want is a 1024x768 video mode driving the > text console, vidcontrol(1) can do that, but I don't > understand the connection to a frame buffer... > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 04:29:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2B2D16A4CF for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 04:29:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp2.vsnl.net (smtp2.vsnl.net [203.200.235.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A3043D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 04:29:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from torahuls@vsnl.com) Received: from vsnl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.vsnl.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HTH003CGK1BM7@smtp2.vsnl.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:59:36 +0530 (IST) Received: from ([219.65.87.19]) by smtp2.vsnl.net (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall Unix); Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:59:36 +0530 (IST) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:01:44 +0000 From: Rahul Sawarkar In-reply-to: <20040222113931.GA63311@lewiz.org> To: Lewis Thompson Message-id: <4038EE88.4030407@vsnl.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20040107 Thunderbird/0.4 References: <40378876.2090808@vsnl.com> <44isi0857m.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20040222113931.GA63311@lewiz.org> cc: Lowell Gilbert cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: framebuffer fro freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 12:29:38 -0000 Maybe you are using the wrong fonts.Did you try both the 8x8 and 16x16 fonts? Rgrds > Is it just me or does vidcontrol look ugly when compared to Linux's > console framebuffer that allows high-resolution console displays? > > -lewiz. > Lewis Thompson wrote: > On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 04:58:53PM -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > >>Rahul Sawarkar writes: >> >>>is there a framebuffer port for freebsd? >>> i want to run my console in 1024x768. >> >>Why would you want a framebuffer for that? >>Do you have frame grabber hardware or something? >> >>If all you want is a 1024x768 video mode driving the >>text console, vidcontrol(1) can do that, but I don't >>understand the connection to a frame buffer... > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 04:30:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E5BB16A4CF for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 04:30:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-out4.xs4all.nl (smtp-out4.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DBB543D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 04:30:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fjaspers@xs4all.nl) Received: from xs1.xs4all.nl (xs1.xs4all.nl [194.109.21.2]) by smtp-out4.xs4all.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i1MCSTOh094545 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 13:30:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from xs1.xs4all.nl (fjaspers@localhost.xs4all.nl [127.0.0.1]) by xs1.xs4all.nl (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i1MCST2g052456 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 13:28:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from fjaspers@xs4all.nl) Received: (from fjaspers@localhost) by xs1.xs4all.nl (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) id i1MCST0r052455 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 13:28:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from fjaspers) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 13:28:29 +0100 From: fjaspers@xs4all.nl To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20040222122829.GA51371@xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Kernel build problem after make world X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 12:30:15 -0000 Hi, I upgraded my system from RELEASE 5.0 to RELENG_5_2. Used cvsup to get the sources, made buildworld; made a generic kernel; installed world. Everything went well, i was able to boot into multi-user mode. BUT now i would like build a custom kernel. This doesnt work anymore. I tried it both ways. (make builkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL, or config MYKERNEL, make depend; make;) The kernel sources seem to compile, but when the linker starts my screen is flooded with unknown "Unknown referernces errors" Would anybody known what causes this? Should there be some magic new entry in /etc/make.conf? Any help is apreciated. Thnx. Frans Jaspers (fjaspers@xs4all.nl) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 04:40:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 618D016A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 04:40:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from deluge.umist.ac.uk (deluge.umist.ac.uk [130.88.120.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B5443D1F for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 04:40:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lewiz@red.lewiz.org) Received: from lh014.halls.umist.ac.uk ([130.88.163.14] helo=yellow.lewiz.org) by deluge.umist.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Ausuh-0002Gs-Fd; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 12:40:51 +0000 Received: from red.lewiz.org ([192.168.0.4]) by mail.lewiz.org with smtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1AusxS-000GaD-9w; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 12:43:42 +0000 Received: (nullmailer pid 63747 invoked by uid 4001); Sun, 22 Feb 2004 12:43:42 -0000 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 12:43:41 +0000 From: Lewis Thompson To: Rahul Sawarkar Message-ID: <20040222124341.GB63685@lewiz.org> Mail-Followup-To: Lewis Thompson , Rahul Sawarkar , Lowell Gilbert , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <40378876.2090808@vsnl.com> <44isi0857m.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20040222113931.GA63311@lewiz.org> <4038EE88.4030407@vsnl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4038EE88.4030407@vsnl.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 90A4 939E 3847 A3E4 8103 2A48 22DA B428 542F ED3F X-GPG-Info: http://www.lewiz.org/~lewiz/pgpkey / horowitz.surfnet.nl User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean cc: Lowell Gilbert cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: framebuffer fro freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 12:40:53 -0000 --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 06:01:44PM +0000, Rahul Sawarkar wrote: > Maybe you are using the wrong fonts.Did you try both the 8x8 and 16x16=20 > fonts? Yes. It's nowhere near as ``pretty'' as doing the same under Linux. It's almost as though the Linux framebuffer does some anti-aliasing to make it all look a lot nicer ;) -lewiz. --=20 I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now. --Bob Dylan, 1964. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -| msn:purple@lewiz.net | jabber:lewiz@jabber.org | url:www.lewiz.org |- --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAOKP9Itq0KFQv7T8RAvrMAJ0aAjvQKLtXUGB6mKeJvQ0wt07PtACgsYt4 Yqss6aQDgP1BU5P0GHAY4V0= =Lm84 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 04:50:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8936516A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 04:50:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from ce.sharif.ac.ir (ce.sharif.ac.ir [81.31.164.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B2143D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 04:50:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from falaki@ce.sharif.edu) Received: from ce.sharif.edu (ce.sharif.ac.ir [127.0.0.1]) by ce.sharif.ac.ir (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id i1MLPSet005468 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:25:30 -0500 Received: from 81.31.164.32 (SquirrelMail authenticated user falaki) by ce.sharif.edu with HTTP; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:25:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1131.81.31.164.32.1077485130.squirrel@ce.sharif.edu> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:25:30 -0500 (EST) From: falaki@ce.sharif.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: authentication using openldap client. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 12:50:06 -0000 Hello; My FreeBSD 4.9 server has to authenticate it’s users through Openldap client from a Linux server. I have installed openldap-client-2.1.22 and pam_ldap-1.6.4. The ldapsearch gives the correct answer whet it is invoked with necessary arguments. I tried to configure pam.conf so that is uses pam_ldap.so for authentication and I tested many cases ( changing the arguments and things like this) but nobody can log in. I want to know if other things except pam.conf must be configured and if pam.conf must be configured can anybody send me a sample. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 05:02:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1334216A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 05:02:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE5D743D1F for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 05:02:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from kruij557.speed.planet.nl (ipd50a97ba.speed.planet.nl [213.10.151.186]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HTH00K4ALWJFK@smtp02.wxs.nl> for FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:09:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kruij557.speed.planet.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i1MD2MHd068408; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:02:22 +0100 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by alex.lan (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i1MD2L36068407; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:02:21 +0100 Content-return: prohibited Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:02:21 +0100 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: To: Lucas Holt Message-id: <20040222130221.GE892@alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: X-Authentication-warning: alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG ORG" Subject: Re: tripwire X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 13:02:58 -0000 On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 03:47:56AM -0500, Lucas Holt wrote: > Can someone recommend a program like tripwire for 5.2.1-RC2 FreeBSD? > > i was using tripwire in 4.x but the port is broken in 5.x. Tripwire 1.2 seem to work. The other two are down. -- Alex Articles based on solutions that I use: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/index.php?dir=docs/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 05:04:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFDB016A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 05:04:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A731843D1F for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 05:04:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from kruij557.speed.planet.nl (ipd50a97ba.speed.planet.nl [213.10.151.186])18questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:04:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kruij557.speed.planet.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i1MD4OHd068419; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:04:24 +0100 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by alex.lan (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i1MD4N4I068418; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:04:23 +0100 Content-return: prohibited Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:04:23 +0100 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <20040222072428.GB54683@ninja.terrabionic.com> To: jsha Message-id: <20040222130423.GF892@alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <20040222072428.GB54683@ninja.terrabionic.com> X-Authentication-warning: alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: obsolete files? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 13:04:59 -0000 On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 08:24:28AM +0100, jsha wrote: > > hello. > > does make world leave obsolete files on your system > after install? without even the slightest effort to > remove them? > > please say it isn't so. i like make world. Hi, If it does then its written down in the handbook under the cutting edge. -- Alex Articles based on solutions that I use: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/index.php?dir=docs/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 05:51:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C0D816A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 05:51:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from ex-nihilo-llc.com (ex-nihilo-llc.com [206.114.147.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 237AB43D1F for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 05:51:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aaron@alpete.com) Received: from mail.alpete.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ex-nihilo-llc.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 45D0E37; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:53:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from 204.118.74.216 (SquirrelMail authenticated user aaron@alpete.com) by mail.alpete.com with HTTP; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:53:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <50853.204.118.74.216.1077458035.squirrel@mail.alpete.com> In-Reply-To: <20040222084506.GB892@alex.lan> References: <200402211258.13361.niel@telia.com> <20040222084506.GB892@alex.lan> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:53:55 -0500 (EST) From: "Aaron Peterson" To: "Alex de Kruijff" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Niel Subject: Re: I have a dream, of a help/manual/doc system, which is simple to use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: aaron@alpete.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 13:51:39 -0000 > The website for freebsd is www.freebsd.org and on the main page you can > find the handbook which leads to www.freebsd.org/handbook > > -- > Alex and of course the manual pages that install with each of the some 10000 add on programs. "man " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 21 12:05:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8435716A4CE for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 12:05:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp2.brturbo.com (unknown [200.199.201.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4994F43D1D for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 12:05:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eduardojorge@brturbo.com) Received: from SERVIDOR (200-101-090-113.pvoce7001.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br [200.101.90.113]) by smtp2.brturbo.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8471D3410 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 17:05:14 -0300 (BRT) Message-ID: <000801c3f8ad$96bdfd10$0101a8c0@SERVIDOR> From: "Eduardo Fernandes" To: Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 16:04:49 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 05:58:22 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Nvidia X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 20:05:19 -0000 how install nvidia drivers in freebsd 5.2? Tanks=20 Eduardo Fernandes From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 06:01:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B843116A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 06:01:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from www6.web2010.com (www6.web2010.com [216.157.5.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 801FE43D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 06:01:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from MLandman@face2interface.com) Received: from delliver.face2interface.com (dialup-wash-129-203.thebiz.net [64.30.129.203] (may be forged)) by www6.web2010.com (8.12.10/8.9.0) with ESMTP id i1ME1C89002492; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:01:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20040222085418.01b94e68@pop.face2interface.com> X-Sender: face@pop.face2interface.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:01:32 -0500 To: Chuck Swiger From: Marty Landman In-Reply-To: <4037D5D7.8030700@mac.com> References: <20040221052137.GL24309@hardesty.saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20040221092538.05e6dc48@pop.face2interface.com> <4037D5D7.8030700@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DHCP access X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:01:40 -0000 At 05:04 PM 2/21/2004, Chuck Swiger wrote: >Marty Landman wrote: > >>looks like arp is unreliable for a canonical list of plugged in ip's. >>Curious about what would work. > >"nmap -sP 22 192.168.0.0/24" should do it %nmap -sP 22 192.168.0.0/24 Starting nmap V. 3.00 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) Target host specification is illegal. QUITTING! % I don't understand the man page though so assume it's me, not nmap. >ping 192.168.0.255 %ping 192.168.0.255 PING 192.168.0.255 (192.168.0.255): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=0.964 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.160: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=1.359 ms (DUP!) ^C Hmm, since there are five nodes on my class c network this didn't do the trick either. I wrote a quick perl script that I think works but so slowly that it's impractical: %perl -e 'for(0..255) {$ip = "192.168.0.$_";$ping = `ping -c1 $ip`;print "$ip\n" if $ping =~ /64 bytes from/}' 192.168.0.0 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.3 . . . Marty Landman Face 2 Interface Inc 845-679-9387 This Month's New Quiz --- Past Superbowl Winners Make a Website: http://face2interface.com/Home/Demo.shtml From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 06:05:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0659216A4CF for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 06:05:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.covadmail.net (mx05.covadmail.net [63.65.120.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E66943D2D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 06:05:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from strick@covad.net) Received: (covad.net 28424 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2004 14:05:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mist.nodomain) (strick@covad.net@68.164.175.101) by sun-qmail13 with SMTP; 22 Feb 2004 14:05:38 -0000 Received: from mist.nodomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mist.nodomain (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i1ME5egS001107; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 06:05:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@mist.nodomain) Received: (from dan@localhost) by mist.nodomain (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id i1ME5eer001106; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 06:05:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 06:05:40 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Strick Message-Id: <200402221405.i1ME5eer001106@mist.nodomain> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org cc: dan@mist.nodomain Subject: reserving ATA channel numbers in kernel configuration files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:05:45 -0000 Is there any way to reserve specific ATA channel numbers for specific PCI ATA controllers? During bootstrap my kernel says: atapci0: port 0x8800-0x880f, 0x8400-0x8403,0x8010-0x8017,0x7c00-0x7c03,0x7810-0x7817 irq 16 at device 12.0 on pci3 ata2: at 0x7810 on atapci0 ata3: at 0x8010 on atapci0 atapci1: port 0xf000-0xf00f,0-0x3, 0-0x7,0-0x3,0-0x7 irq 9 at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci1 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci1 atapci2: port 0xd000-0xd00f, 0xcc00-0xcc03,0xc800-0xc807,0xc400-0xc403,0xc000-0xc007 irq 9 at device 31.2 on pci0 ata4: at 0xc000 on atapci2 ata5: at 0xc800 on atapci2 The relevant part of my kernel configuration file currently says: # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives ... options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering I want the ICH5 SATA150 channels to be ata2 and ata3. Thanks, Dan Strick strick@covad.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 06:05:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B1416A4CF for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 06:05:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail016.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail016.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860B443D2F for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 06:05:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tfrank@optushome.com.au) Received: from marvin.home.local (c211-28-241-189.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au [211.28.241.189])i1ME5dw12284; Mon, 23 Feb 2004 01:05:40 +1100 Received: by marvin.home.local (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C789B26A; Mon, 23 Feb 2004 01:05:38 +1100 (EST) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 01:05:38 +1100 From: Tony Frank To: D J Hawkey Jr Message-ID: <20040222140538.GA16873@marvin.home.local> References: <20040221160709.GA22447@sheol.localdomain> <1455334090.20040221175633@buz.ch> <20040221172328.GA22671@sheol.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040221172328.GA22671@sheol.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: Gabriel Ambuehl cc: questions at FreeBSD Subject: Re: Clarification needed on Handbook: Tracking for Multiple Machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:05:48 -0000 Hi, On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 11:23:28AM -0600, D J Hawkey Jr wrote: > On Feb 21, at 05:56 PM, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > > > > DJHJ> Second, two machines are of the same architecture, but they have different > > DJHJ> CPUs: One is an Intel PIII, but the other is a PII. Will the world built > > DJHJ> on a PIII be correct for a PII? Similarly, will the kernel for the PII > > DJHJ> built on a PIII be correct for the PII, given the different variables and > > DJHJ> settings in the two kernel configuration files? > > > > Just make sure you build for 686. If that doesn't work, make it 586 (I > > think the PI qualifies as 686 but I'm not entirely sure). I think the extensions such as > > SSE etc are detected dynamically and shouldn't cause any problem. > > In all my years of messing with builds, I never run into this problem, > > so I guess it's pretty safe. > Yes, both [my] machines define I686_CPU. > > "Dynamically", as in "at runtime"? I think you're right, but I don't > know for certain, either. This is exactly what I'm wondering about; > the PII has only MMX, for instance, while the PIII has SSE and MMX2. > > I assume the world's codebase is CPU-agnostic within an architecture, > but I really don't want to assume this; I'd rather know this. I have PII, Celeron, PIII and P4 in my environment. All these use "I686_CPU" in my kernel configs (I got rid of the other I[345]_CPU types. In /etc/make.conf I include "CPUTYPE=p2" as the lowest common denominator if including a CPUTYPE flag. The resulting world & kernel run fine on all the systems. The higher flags p3 and p4 still just use -march=pentiumpro, however for SSE you will need p3 or p4 as MACHINE_CPU does not include SSE for p2 level. Check out /usr/share/mk/bsd.cpu.mk for specifics. > > DJHJ> /etc/defaults/make.conf doesn't mention KERNCONF; /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 > > DJHJ> does. Since /usr/share/mk/sys.mk sucks in /etc/make.conf, that should > > DJHJ> propogate KERNCONF to /usr/src/Makefile, right? > > You can also > > just supply it on the command line when doing your make runs. > Yes, but this means individual commands for each machine's kernel, as > opposed to one command for all machines (think "issue command and go to > bed", or even an `at` command). Are you stating definitively that what > I saw in the makefile chain isn't what is really there? To your original question, yes. Just add a KERNCONF= line to /etc/make.conf. First entry should be the local machine kernel (to install) and any subsequent entries will also be built during 'make buildkernel' eg: KERNCONF= MARVIN RAIDER RAIDERI GENERIC make buildkernel builds all four. make installkernel installs MARVIN. Good luck, Tony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 06:16:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF9616A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 06:16:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from www6.web2010.com (www6.web2010.com [216.157.5.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C12E143D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 06:16:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from MLandman@face2interface.com) Received: from delliver.face2interface.com (dialup-wash-129-203.thebiz.net [64.30.129.203] (may be forged)) by www6.web2010.com (8.12.10/8.9.0) with ESMTP id i1MEFh89008370 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:15:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20040222091410.03a06988@pop.face2interface.com> X-Sender: face@pop.face2interface.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:16:02 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Marty Landman Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: seeking shell scripting resources X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:16:07 -0000 I'm new to running my own unix systems and would like to start learning the ropes on shell scripting. I've looked at the handbook and a few other sources... maybe haven't looked closely enough. Any recommendations on more involved manuals/explanations/examples of how shell scripts should be developed and used? Marty Landman Face 2 Interface Inc 845-679-9387 This Month's New Quiz --- Past Superbowl Winners Make a Website: http://face2interface.com/Home/Demo.shtml From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 06:20:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B6416A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 06:20:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from jawa.at (jawa.at [213.229.17.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE8843D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 06:20:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michael.hollmann@jawa.at) Received: from secure.jawa.at (dragon.jawa.at [192.168.200.13]) by jawa.at (8.12.9p2/8.12.8) with SMTP id i1MEKRkn029600; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:20:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michael.hollmann@jawa.at) Received: from 81.223.219.145 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mholl) by secure.jawa.at:443 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:20:27 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3310.81.223.219.145.1077459627.squirrel@secure.jawa.at:443> In-Reply-To: <000801c3f8ad$96bdfd10$0101a8c0@SERVIDOR> References: <000801c3f8ad$96bdfd10$0101a8c0@SERVIDOR> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:20:27 +0100 (CET) From: "Michael Hollmann" To: "Eduardo Fernandes" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.61 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.61 (1.212.2.1-2003-12-09-exp) on files.jawa.at cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nvidia X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: michael.hollmann@jawa.at List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:20:48 -0000 download the latest nvidia treiber for freebsd from http://www.nvidia.com and read the README. regards michael > how install nvidia drivers in freebsd 5.2? > > Tanks > > Eduardo Fernandes > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 06:42:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A25016A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 06:42:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from gaff.hhhr.ision.net (gaff.hhhr.ision.net [195.180.9.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F368A43D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 06:42:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ohoyer@gaff.hhhr.ision.net) Received: from gaff.hhhr.ision.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gaff.hhhr.ision.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i1MEg7OL056822; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:42:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ohoyer@gaff.hhhr.ision.net) Received: from localhost (ohoyer@localhost)i1MEg6n1056819; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:42:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ohoyer@gaff.hhhr.ision.net) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:42:06 +0100 (CET) From: Olaf Hoyer To: Marty Landman In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20040222085418.01b94e68@pop.face2interface.com> Message-ID: <20040222153958.S56797@gaff.hhhr.ision.net> References: <20040221052137.GL24309@hardesty.saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com> <4037D5D7.8030700@mac.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20040222085418.01b94e68@pop.face2interface.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DHCP access X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:42:06 -0000 On Sun, 22 Feb 2004, Marty Landman wrote: > At 05:04 PM 2/21/2004, Chuck Swiger wrote: > >Marty Landman wrote: > > > >>looks like arp is unreliable for a canonical list of plugged in ip's. > >>Curious about what would work. > > > >"nmap -sP 22 192.168.0.0/24" should do it > > %nmap -sP 22 192.168.0.0/24 > > Starting nmap V. 3.00 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) > Target host specification is illegal. > QUITTING! Hi! The syntax to ping a whole /24 segment would be: nmap -sP 192.168.0.0/24 this will work. after this you will also have some output from the arp -a command, because the arp cache has to be filled somehow. HTH Olaf -- Olaf Hoyer ohoyer@gaff.hhhr.ision.net Fuerchterliche Erlebniss geben zu raten, ob der, welcher sie erlebt, nicht etwas Fuerchterliches ist. (Nietzsche, Jenseits von Gut und Boese) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 06:50:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 678E116A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 06:50:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from cardinal.mail.pas.earthlink.net (cardinal.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC3543D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 06:50:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rperry4@earthlink.net) Received: from dialup-171.75.71.120.dial1.weehawken.level3.net ([171.75.71.120] helo=earthlink.net) by cardinal.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1Auuvk-0007TF-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 06:50:05 -0800 Message-ID: <4038C1C2.8070607@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:50:42 -0500 From: Bob Perry User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040208 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Fwd: Do I need Mozilla-1.6 and Mozilla-GTK2-1.6?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:50:18 -0000 Please disregard. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Do I need Mozilla-1.6 and Mozilla-GTK2-1.6? Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 17:54:58 -0500 From: Bob Perry To: FreeBSD-Questions Hello, Just upgrade to 4.9-RELEASE and CVSup'd my system today. pkg_version -v listed mozilla-gtk2-1.6_2 as "? orphaned: www/mozilla-gtk2". Also have mozilla-1.6_2,2 which was my original browser. If I remember correctly, the gtk2 version appeared after installing Galeon2 and provided additional code that Galeon2 needed. Ran pkgdb -Fv and it referenced "duplicate origins for the two mozilla files and prompted me to unregister one. I responded "no" because of Galeon2. "No" was also the default. Ran pkg_version -v again and the gtk2 version is no longer an orphan but just needs updating to 1.6_2,2, same version as my original mozilla. Fresh Ports indicates that GTK2 is now the default version, but at the same time marks the file with an "x", as in "Deleted: This port has been removed from the ports tree." Can I deinstall the gtk2 version and not effect Galeon2? Did I ever need both mozilla-1.6 and mozilla-GTK2-1.6? Thanks, Bob Perry -- FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p2 #0 _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- I've learned that whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed. FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p2 #0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 06:51:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65F216A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 06:51:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C3943D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 06:51:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from s.sheikh@adelphia.net) Received: from saturn ([68.66.233.16]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20040222145145.PTNA25917.mta9.adelphia.net@saturn> for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:51:45 -0500 From: "sameer" To: Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 06:52:10 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: tightvnc port broken? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:51:46 -0000 anyways, that being said... i'm still having an issue with tightvnc and FreeBSD 5.2. 'make install clean' gives the following:: --------- . . . rm -f ../.././/exports/lib/libXdmcp.a cd ../.././/exports/lib && ln -s ../../lib/Xdmcp/libXdmcp.a . making all in lib/X11... making all in lib/font... making all in lib/font/bitmap... rm -f bdfread.o cc -c -O -pipe -ansi -pedantic -Dasm=3D__asm = -I../../.././/include/fonts -I.. /include -I../../.././ -I../../.././/exports/include -DCSRG_BASED = -DSHAPE=20 = =20 -DGCCUSESGAS XFree86ServerDefines -DNDEBUG -DFUNCPROTO=3D15 -DNARROWPROTO = bdfread.c cc: XFree86ServerDefines: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/tightvnc/work/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/lib/font/bitmap. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/tightvnc/work/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/lib/font. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/tightvnc/work/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc/lib. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/tightvnc/work/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/tightvnc/work/vnc_unixsrc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/tightvnc. ------------------- any ideas what's causing this? i've updated my ports and sources to the lastest snapshot (did i use that term correctly?) as of last night. so, things are pretty current. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 07:05:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE4E16A4FF for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:05:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from spam2.snu.ac.kr (spam2.snu.ac.kr [147.46.10.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F25743D2D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:05:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nospam@users.sourceforge.net) Received: (snipe 17955 invoked by alias); 22 Feb 2004 15:05:47 +0900(KST) Received: from nospam@users.sourceforge.net with SpamSniper2.76 (Processed in 0.043849 secs); Received: from unknown (HELO sis1.snu.ac.kr) (147.46.10.36) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Feb 2004 15:05:47 +0900(KST) X-RCPTTO: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Received: from users.sourceforge.net ([147.47.254.184]) by sis1.snu.ac.kr (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i1MF2LwT273500 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 2004 00:02:25 +0900 Message-ID: <4038C549.1020702@users.sourceforge.net> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 00:05:45 +0900 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040211 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Is inetd a proxy server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:05:52 -0000 Hi, I don't know much about proxy servers, so I read the handbook on this issue. When reading the proxy server paragraph in the firewalls section, I concluded that my inetd superserver is a kind of proxy server. Is that right? Thanks, Rob. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 07:06:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029D816A4CF for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:06:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from antsrv1.ant.uni-bremen.de (antsrv1.ant.uni-bremen.de [134.102.176.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4EF643D2D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:06:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rebehn@ant.uni-bremen.de) Received: from europa.ant.uni-bremen.de ([134.102.176.10] helo=ant.uni-bremen.de) by antsrv1.ant.uni-bremen.de with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1AuvBb-0000XR-JS; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:06:27 +0100 Message-ID: <4038D21B.2030903@ant.uni-bremen.de> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:00:27 +0000 From: Heinrich Rebehn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040212 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gabriel Ambuehl References: <4037A0BB.8030807@ant.uni-bremen.de> <44n07c85md.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <40388FF1.4000004@ant.uni-bremen.de> <1664802739.20040222113449@buz.ch> In-Reply-To: <1664802739.20040222113449@buz.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UNEXPECTED SOFTUPDATES INCONSISTENCY X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:06:29 -0000 Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > Hi Heinrich Rebehn, > you wrote. > > >>>Make sure you've disabled write caching on the drive firmware >>>itself... > > HR> Does this also apply for RAID disks (twe)? Also, there is no word about > HR> this in man tuning(7). Is this more of a guess or is softupdates > HR> definately dangerous with wite cache enabled? > > I'd say it's the other way round: write cache is dangerous with > softupdates. Softupdates itself is certainly better than no > softupdates, even if it takes a slight performance drop by disabling > write cache. > > I think you should disable the write cache on the 3ware cache (not > sure whether there actually is one, mine don't come with any RAM > sockets) anyway as you'll lose all data in there in the event of a > crash. Why that? I can imagine that i lose data in case of a power failure, but why in case of a crash? And why is write cache only dangerous with softupdates, as you wrote above? I had always write cache enabled on my twe controller, but my problems with softupdates definetely started with 5.2 Since i found no word about disabling write cache in the FreeBSD handbook or in man tuning(7), i would really like to know, if this is just a rumour, or where does it come from? > > > > > Regards, > Gabriel > Heinrich Rebehn University of Bremen Physics / Electrical and Electronics Engineering - Department of Telecommunications - Phone : +49/421/218-4664 Fax : -3341 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 07:07:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E8116A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:07:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from conn.mc.mpls.visi.com (conn.mc.mpls.visi.com [208.42.156.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A0F43D31 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:07:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hawkeyd@visi.com) Received: from sheol.localdomain (hawkeyd-fw.dsl.visi.com [208.42.101.193]) by conn.mc.mpls.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96EEA810A; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:07:24 -0600 (CST) Received: (from hawkeyd@localhost) by sheol.localdomain (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) id i1MF7NT25730; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:07:23 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hawkeyd) X-Spam-Policy: http://www.visi.com/~hawkeyd/index.html#mail Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:07:23 -0600 From: D J Hawkey Jr To: Tony Frank Message-ID: <20040222150723.GA25548@sheol.localdomain> References: <20040221160709.GA22447@sheol.localdomain> <1455334090.20040221175633@buz.ch> <20040221172328.GA22671@sheol.localdomain> <20040222140538.GA16873@marvin.home.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040222140538.GA16873@marvin.home.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: Gabriel Ambuehl cc: questions at FreeBSD Subject: Re: Clarification needed on Handbook: Tracking for Multiple Machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: hawkeyd@visi.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:07:25 -0000 On Feb 23, at 01:05 AM, Tony Frank wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 11:23:28AM -0600, D J Hawkey Jr wrote: > > On Feb 21, at 05:56 PM, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > > > > > > DJHJ> Second, two machines are of the same architecture, but they have different > > > DJHJ> CPUs: One is an Intel PIII, but the other is a PII. Will the world built > > > DJHJ> on a PIII be correct for a PII? Similarly, will the kernel for the PII > > > DJHJ> built on a PIII be correct for the PII, given the different variables and > > > DJHJ> settings in the two kernel configuration files? > > > > > > Just make sure you build for 686. If that doesn't work, make it 586 (I > > > think the PI qualifies as 686 but I'm not entirely sure). I think the extensions such as > > > SSE etc are detected dynamically and shouldn't cause any problem. > > > In all my years of messing with builds, I never run into this problem, > > > so I guess it's pretty safe. > > Yes, both [my] machines define I686_CPU. > > > > "Dynamically", as in "at runtime"? I think you're right, but I don't > > know for certain, either. This is exactly what I'm wondering about; > > the PII has only MMX, for instance, while the PIII has SSE and MMX2. > > > > I assume the world's codebase is CPU-agnostic within an architecture, > > but I really don't want to assume this; I'd rather know this. > > I have PII, Celeron, PIII and P4 in my environment. > All these use "I686_CPU" in my kernel configs (I got rid of the other I[345]_CPU types. In a desktop's kernel config: machine i386 cpu I686_CPU ident SHEOL In my laptop's kernel config: machine i386 cpu I686_CPU ident CHARON Getting difficult, isn't it? ;-, Boot messages on that desktop from kernel built on that desktop: CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (764.35-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x686 Stepping = 6 Features=0x383f9ff Boot messages on that laptop from kernel built on that laptop: CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (233.87-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x652 Stepping = 2 Features=0x183f9ff > In /etc/make.conf I include "CPUTYPE=p2" as the lowest common denominator if > including a CPUTYPE flag. > The resulting world & kernel run fine on all the systems. > > The higher flags p3 and p4 still just use -march=pentiumpro, however for SSE you > will need p3 or p4 as MACHINE_CPU does not include SSE for p2 level. > Check out /usr/share/mk/bsd.cpu.mk for specifics. If I read things right, the first chunk in bsd.cpu.mk results in "CPUTYPE = i686"; the conditional-on-CPU_TYPE-defined assignment sees "cpu I686_CPU" in the kernel configs, right?. The second chunk in bsd.cpu.mk also results in "CPUTYPE = i686" (fallthrough). The third chunk results in "_CPUCFLAGS = -march=pentiumpro", as you state. Finally, the last chunk in bsd.cpu.mk results in "MACHINE_CPU = i686 i586 i486 i386". If I specify "CPUTYPE=p2" in make.conf, and I'm still reading things right, the final result in bsd.cpu.mk would be the same _CPUCFLAGS, and "MACHINE_CPU = i686 mmx i586 i486 i386". But based on the boot messages, it would seem that the features of the chips are detected correctly without specifying a CPUTYPE in make.conf. So... As things are right now (no CPUTYPE in make.conf), it would appear that "CPU feature" code is built into the kernels on the respective machines, and that code correctly detects the features available. Therefore, I don't see where adding CPUTYPE in make.conf would get me anything I'm not already getting? That is, why make things more specific than they have to be? I don't see where adding "CPUTYPE=p2" on a PIII build machine would change anything for PII and/or PIII target machines. What have I missed? > > > DJHJ> /etc/defaults/make.conf doesn't mention KERNCONF; /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 > > > DJHJ> does. Since /usr/share/mk/sys.mk sucks in /etc/make.conf, that should > > > DJHJ> propogate KERNCONF to /usr/src/Makefile, right? > > To your original question, yes. > Just add a KERNCONF= line to /etc/make.conf. > First entry should be the local machine kernel (to install) and > any subsequent entries will also be built during 'make buildkernel' > eg: KERNCONF= MARVIN RAIDER RAIDERI GENERIC > make buildkernel builds all four. > make installkernel installs MARVIN. Cool. So, the -CURRENT (or is that -STABLE?) Handbook does apply to 4.5-REL, at least where this stuff is concerned. Dave -- ______________________ ______________________ \__________________ \ D. J. HAWKEY JR. / __________________/ \________________/\ hawkeyd@visi.com /\________________/ http://www.visi.com/~hawkeyd/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 07:08:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 516A116A4CF for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:08:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from www6.web2010.com (www6.web2010.com [216.157.5.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F175343D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:08:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from MLandman@face2interface.com) Received: from delliver.face2interface.com (dialup-wash-129-203.thebiz.net [64.30.129.203] (may be forged)) by www6.web2010.com (8.12.10/8.9.0) with ESMTP id i1MF8R89001541; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:08:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20040222095859.03dc3c78@pop.face2interface.com> X-Sender: face@pop.face2interface.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:08:47 -0500 To: Olaf Hoyer From: Marty Landman In-Reply-To: <20040222153958.S56797@gaff.hhhr.ision.net> References: <20040221052137.GL24309@hardesty.saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20040221092538.05e6dc48@pop.face2interface.com> <4037D5D7.8030700@mac.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20040222085418.01b94e68@pop.face2interface.com> <20040222153958.S56797@gaff.hhhr.ision.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DHCP access X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:08:54 -0000 At 09:42 AM 2/22/2004, Olaf Hoyer wrote: >The syntax to ping a whole /24 segment would be: Hi Olaf. Could you please explain what is meant by '/24 segment'? I'm new to networking as you can see! >nmap -sP 192.168.0.0/24 # nmap -sP 192.168.0.0/24 Starting nmap V. 3.00 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) Host (192.168.0.0) seems to be a subnet broadcast address (returned 2 extra pings). Host delliver (192.168.0.1) appears to be up. Host woody (192.168.0.3) appears to be up. Host swamisalami (192.168.0.7) appears to be up. sendto in send_ip_raw: sendto(4, packet, 28, 0, 192.168.0.8, 16) => Can't assign requested address Sleeping 15 seconds then retrying sendto in send_ip_raw: sendto(4, packet, 28, 0, 192.168.0.8, 16) => Can't assign requested address Sleeping 60 seconds then retrying sendto in send_ip_raw: sendto(4, packet, 28, 0, 192.168.0.8, 16) => Can't assign requested address Sleeping 240 seconds then retrying ^Ccaught SIGINT signal, cleaning up swamisalami# >this will work. It appears not. I should perhaps add that I'm running this from my fbsd box which is not the gateway. Nmap has reported itself (swamisalami), the gateway box (delliver) and the debian box (woody). It's not reported the rh9 box (penguin) and my wife's w98 workstation (eileen). >after this you will also have some output from the arp -a command, >because the arp cache has to be filled somehow. swamisalami# arp -a ? (192.168.0.0) at ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff on ep0 permanent [ethernet] delliver (192.168.0.1) at 00:08:74:c0:5e:69 on ep0 [ethernet] woody (192.168.0.3) at 00:a0:cc:40:3e:9b on ep0 [ethernet] swamisalami (192.168.0.7) at 00:20:af:4d:24:b7 on ep0 permanent [ethernet] ? (192.168.0.8) at (incomplete) on ep0 [ethernet] penguin (192.168.0.160) at 00:a0:24:75:04:49 on ep0 [ethernet] eileen (192.168.0.240) at 00:a0:cc:40:55:cf on ep0 [ethernet] ? (192.168.0.255) at ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff on ep0 permanent [ethernet] swamisalami# Ok, not sure why the output was broken up into two portions but it has now captured all the nodes on my box. Furthermore a subsequent arp -a gives a more usable output e.g. swamisalami# arp -a ? (192.168.0.0) at ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff on ep0 permanent [ethernet] delliver (192.168.0.1) at 00:08:74:c0:5e:69 on ep0 [ethernet] woody (192.168.0.3) at 00:a0:cc:40:3e:9b on ep0 [ethernet] swamisalami (192.168.0.7) at 00:20:af:4d:24:b7 on ep0 permanent [ethernet] penguin (192.168.0.160) at 00:a0:24:75:04:49 on ep0 [ethernet] eileen (192.168.0.240) at 00:a0:cc:40:55:cf on ep0 [ethernet] ? (192.168.0.255) at ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff on ep0 permanent [ethernet] swamisalami# Did you mean then that I should run the nmap followed by the arp -a to get a look at all nodes on my class c network? In this case it seems the only thing needed for me to put this into a shell script is a way to not have to manually interrupt the nmap which seemed to want to keep trying, after sleeping for progressively longer periods of time. Unless there is a glitch to be worked around somehow on 192.168.0.8 (never in use on my network afaik) and that what happened here was not typical behavior. It would be a nice utility for me to have and perhaps run off cron - i.e. to test each connection on my network and report back so I know on a steady basis that everything's up and running (or at least reachable). Marty Landman Face 2 Interface Inc 845-679-9387 This Month's New Quiz --- Past Superbowl Winners Make a Website: http://face2interface.com/Home/Demo.shtml From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 07:12:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D08916A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:12:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from server945.gisol.com (server945.gisol.com [207.44.208.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A3BF43D1F for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:12:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from webmaster@countrypure.net) Received: from 64-251-140-222-dialup-mo.fidnet.com ([64.251.140.222] helo=countrypure.net) by server945.gisol.com with asmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AuvHD-00069a-7s; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:12:15 -0800 Message-ID: <4038C625.1000102@countrypure.net> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:09:25 -0600 From: Quintin Riis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031013 Thunderbird/0.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marty Landman References: <6.0.0.22.0.20040222091410.03a06988@pop.face2interface.com> In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20040222091410.03a06988@pop.face2interface.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.81.2.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server945.gisol.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - countrypure.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: seeking shell scripting resources X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:12:20 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Are you using bash? Try /usr/ports/shells/bash2/work/bash-2.05b/examples/ for a few examples. They should be "developed and used" to fit your needs. :) Quintin Marty Landman wrote: | I'm new to running my own unix systems and would like to start learning | the ropes on shell scripting. I've looked at the handbook and a few | other sources... maybe haven't looked closely enough. | | Any recommendations on more involved manuals/explanations/examples of | how shell scripts should be developed and used? | | Marty Landman Face 2 Interface Inc 845-679-9387 | This Month's New Quiz --- Past Superbowl Winners | Make a Website: http://face2interface.com/Home/Demo.shtml | | _______________________________________________ | freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list | http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions | To unsubscribe, send any mail to | "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" | | | -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAOMYlkt6kXuDr+LcRAoquAKC2VnM470804Jt7k9rseMazTnF9WgCgpNMp VhrUb3PXTM+kulLPKtZun6Y= =xx8c -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 07:18:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A219116A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:18:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccmmhc02.asp.att.net (sccmmhc02.asp.att.net [204.127.203.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6920143D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:18:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david.fleck@mchsi.com) Received: from grond (12-216-14-105.client.mchsi.com[12.216.14.105]) by sccmmhc02.asp.att.net (sccmmhc02) with SMTP id <20040222151813mm200s63o9e>; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:18:14 +0000 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:18:12 -0600 (CST) From: David Fleck Sender: dcf@grond.sourballs.org To: Aaron Peterson In-Reply-To: <50853.204.118.74.216.1077458035.squirrel@mail.alpete.com> Message-ID: <20040222091711.J58331@grond.sourballs.org> References: <200402211258.13361.niel@telia.com> <20040222084506.GB892@alex.lan> <50853.204.118.74.216.1077458035.squirrel@mail.alpete.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Niel Subject: Re: I have a dream, of a help/manual/doc system, which is simple to use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:18:15 -0000 On Sun, 22 Feb 2004, Aaron Peterson wrote: > and of course the manual pages that install with each of the some 10000 > add on programs. "man " ...with *each* of them? Ah, if only that were true.. dcf>$ man aspell No manual entry for aspell -- David Fleck david.fleck@mchsi.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 07:23:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0ABC16A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:23:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from www6.web2010.com (www6.web2010.com [216.157.5.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E4543D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:23:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from MLandman@face2interface.com) Received: from delliver.face2interface.com (dialup-wash-129-203.thebiz.net [64.30.129.203] (may be forged)) by www6.web2010.com (8.12.10/8.9.0) with ESMTP id i1MFMR89007795; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:22:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20040222102019.05afa958@pop.face2interface.com> X-Sender: face@pop.face2interface.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:22:42 -0500 To: Quintin Riis From: Marty Landman In-Reply-To: <4038C625.1000102@countrypure.net> References: <6.0.0.22.0.20040222091410.03a06988@pop.face2interface.com> <4038C625.1000102@countrypure.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: seeking shell scripting resources X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:23:09 -0000 At 10:09 AM 2/22/2004, Quintin Riis wrote: >Are you using bash? I'm new and want to learn scripting to help with running my network. So I'm completely flexible as I don't know enough to have any preferences. >Try /usr/ports/shells/bash2/work/bash-2.05b/examples/ for a few examples. Ok, making /usr/ports/shells/bash2/ now and then I'll see what's in there. Haven't found much around at all on shell programming and would like to start learning it. Any more resources would be most welcome to find out about. Thanks Quintin. Marty Landman Face 2 Interface Inc 845-679-9387 This Month's New Quiz --- Past Superbowl Winners Make a Website: http://face2interface.com/Home/Demo.shtml From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 07:32:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A24316A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:32:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.thilelli.net (jgabel.net1.nerim.net [80.65.226.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42FE543D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:32:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jpeg@thilelli.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.thilelli.net [127.0.0.1]) by bento.thilelli.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92B39241F7; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:32:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from bento.thilelli.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bento.thilelli.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 81148-05; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:32:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail.thilelli.net (localhost.thilelli.net [127.0.0.1]) by bento.thilelli.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 72089241EA; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:32:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from 192.168.0.97 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jgabel) by webmail.thilelli.net with HTTP; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:32:53 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49326.192.168.0.97.1077463973.squirrel@webmail.thilelli.net> In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20040222102019.05afa958@pop.face2interface.com> References: <6.0.0.22.0.20040222091410.03a06988@pop.face2interface.com><4038C625.1000102@countrypure.net> <6.0.0.22.0.20040222102019.05afa958@pop.face2interface.com> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:32:53 +0100 (CET) From: "Julien Gabel" To: "Marty Landman" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at thilelli.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: seeking shell scripting resources X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:32:56 -0000 > Haven't found much around at all on shell programming and would like > to start learning it. Any more resources would be most welcome to find > out about. * Little course / UNIX Shell Scripting: http://users.sdsc.edu/~steube/Bshell/ * Tips & tricks / Shell Corner from UnixReview by Ed Schaefer: http://www.unixreview.com/columns/schaefer/ It is not FreeBSD specific though. -- -jg. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 07:40:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3821816A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:40:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailbox.gr (mailbox.gr [216.121.96.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09F4043D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:40:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody@mailbox.gr) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by mailbox.gr (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) id RAA26023; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:38:36 +0200 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:38:36 +0200 Message-Id: <200402221538.RAA26023@mailbox.gr> From: "dkouroun@mailbox.gr" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: fail to recognize sound device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:40:15 -0000 Dear Sirs, Thank you for Giving FreeBSD for free. Basically I would like to ask you about a problem I have with the sound hardware which I wasn't able to resolve. And I also have some suggestions to make! After Installation when writing #startx, at the prompt KDE loads and I get a message than sound driver /dev/pcm couldn't be found. SuSE and Redhat both recognize my sound driver as 82801DB AC'97. Further more alot of stuff like xmms, and other applications were not installed although I checked them to be installed when I was asked. The funny thing is that those applications exist in /usr/.../ports. 1:How can I configure my sound device? 2:How can I install xmms or other stuff which exist in my hard-drive but are not installed? 3:How can I configure kdm such that I can switch window manager and I do not have to type startx all the time? Suggestions: 1: It would be really attractive if the installation of FreeBSD was as easy and comfortable(visual stuff) as SuSE's. 2: It would be nice if kdm or xdm or something was installed and needen't have to be configured after installation. For instance during the installation the user should be asked if he would like to have xdm or kdm installed ... 3: how can I test the performance of freeBSD against SuSE or Redhat? Thanks in advance! Looking forward to your answer! Drosos. _____________________________________________________________________________________ http://www.mailbox.gr ÁðïêôÞóôå äùñåÜí ôï ìïíáäéêü óáò e-mail. http://www.thesuperweb.gr Website ìå ÁóöáëÝò Controlpanel áðü 6 Euro êáé äþñï ôï domain óáò! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 07:47:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC4B16A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:47:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B42EF43D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:47:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.no-ip.com ([66.30.196.44]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <200402221547140140017l6qe>; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:47:14 +0000 Received: by be-well.no-ip.com (Postfix, from userid 1147) id D3371E; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:47:13 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Jonathon McKitrick References: <20040221153648.GA77072@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 22 Feb 2004 10:47:13 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20040221153648.GA77072@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Message-ID: <44wu6f6rr2.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 11 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh no longer connecting automatically X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:47:14 -0000 Jonathon McKitrick writes: > Any idea why updating to 4.9 stable would give me this error? > I have to set it to protocol 1 and log in manually. The auto login with the > id_rsa and authorized_keys doesn't seem to work anymore, but gives this > error: > > neptune:~> ssh jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org > key_verify failed for server_host_key Did the host key change? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 07:47:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E1816A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:47:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from popimap02.icare.priv (unknown [203.78.64.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544E143D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:47:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from satimis@icare.com.hk) Received: from smtpi01.icare.priv ([10.11.12.46]) by popimap02.icare.priv with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 22 Feb 2004 23:47:01 +0800 Received: from icare.com.hk ([203.88.164.230]) by smtpi01.icare.priv with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 22 Feb 2004 23:47:00 +0800 Message-ID: <4038CEEE.3090000@icare.com.hk> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 23:46:54 +0800 From: Stephen Liu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040122 Debian/1.6-1 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Feb 2004 15:47:00.0900 (UTC) FILETIME=[1C524640:01C3F95B] Subject: Fail to start KDE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:47:34 -0000 Hi all folks, Version 5.2 new installation I encountered problem in starting KDE after installation. 1) KDE installed pkg_info | grep kde kde-3.1.4 The "meta-port" for KDE kdeaddons-3.1.4 Additional plugins and scripts for some KDE applications kdeadmin-3.1.4 KDE applications related to system administration kdeartwork-3.1.4_1 Additional themes, sounds, wallpapers and window styles for kdebase-3.1.4 This package provides the basic applications for the KDE sy kdeedu-3.1.4 Collection of entertaining, educational programs for KDE kdegames-3.1.4 Games for the KDE integrated X11 desktop kdegraphics-3.1.4 Graphics utilities for the KDE3 integrated X11 desktop kdelibs-3.1.4_1 This is the base set of libraries needed by KDE programs kdemultimedia-3.1.4 Multimedia utilities for the KDE integrated X11 desktop kdenetwork-3.1.4 Network-related programs and modules for KDE kdepim-3.1.4 Personal Information Management tools for KDE kdesdk-3.1.4 KDE Software Development Kit kdetoys-3.1.4 Small applications for KDE kdeutils-3.1.4 Utilities for the KDE integrated X11 desktop kdevelop-2.1.5 Powerful IDE for developing KDE/Qt-based apps 2) /home/user/.xinitrc file not found ls -al /home/user/ total 22 drwxr-xr-x 2 satimis wheel 512 Feb 23 05:58 . drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Feb 23 07:16 .. -rw------- 1 satimis wheel 0 Feb 23 05:58 .Xauthority -rw-r--r-- 1 satimis wheel 767 Feb 23 07:16 .cshrc -rw-r--r-- 1 satimis wheel 248 Feb 23 07:16 .login -rw-r--r-- 1 satimis wheel 158 Feb 23 07:16 .login_conf -rw------- 1 satimis wheel 373 Feb 23 07:16 .mail_aliases -rw-r--r-- 1 satimis wheel 331 Feb 23 07:16 .mailrc -rw-r--r-- 1 satimis wheel 797 Feb 23 07:16 .profile -rw------- 1 satimis wheel 276 Feb 23 07:16 .rhosts -rw-r--r-- 1 satimis wheel 975 Feb 23 07:16 .shrc -rw------- 1 satimis wheel 106 Feb 23 05:58 .xsession-errors 3) cat /home/user/.xsession-errors Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified Error: Can't open display: :0 Kindly advise how to fix the problems. TIA B.R. satimis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 07:48:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02C3016A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:48:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.romat.com (mail.romat.com [212.143.245.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A60A43D1F for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:48:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gilad_bsd@romat.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.lan [127.0.0.1]) by mail.romat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B62BEB2D5; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:48:28 +0200 (IST) Received: from mail.romat.com ([192.168.1.10]) by localhost (ladon.lan [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30038-07; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:48:26 +0200 (IST) Received: from romat.com (unknown [192.168.1.199]) by mail.romat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97BB2EB2CA; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:48:26 +0200 (IST) Message-ID: <4038CEE7.7020705@romat.com> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:46:47 +0200 From: Gilad Rom Organization: Romat Telecom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030915 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark References: <20040217172321.480EB43D1F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <200402171848.I1HIM5ZT003566@asarian-host.net> In-Reply-To: <200402171848.I1HIM5ZT003566@asarian-host.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Virus found in a message you sent X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:48:31 -0000 Mark wrote: >>Result: Virus Detected >>Virus Name: W32.Alua@mm >>File Attachment: cbkqwkehx.exe >>Attachment Status: deleted >> >>--- Original message information follows --- >> >>From: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>To: jboucher@wwbh.org > > > I wonder whether there is any way to block these, and "out-of-office" > bounces on the list? > > Thanks, > > - Mark Maybe filter on "A message you sent" style subjects? Just a random thought... Gilad From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 08:01:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C617216A54E for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:01:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccmmhc02.asp.att.net (sccmmhc02.asp.att.net [204.127.203.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF7143D2D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:01:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david.fleck@mchsi.com) Received: from grond (12-216-14-105.client.mchsi.com[12.216.14.105]) by sccmmhc02.asp.att.net (sccmmhc02) with SMTP id <20040222160129mm200s5634e>; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:01:30 +0000 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:01:29 -0600 (CST) From: David Fleck Sender: dcf@grond.sourballs.org To: Julien Gabel In-Reply-To: <49326.192.168.0.97.1077463973.squirrel@webmail.thilelli.net> Message-ID: <20040222095116.X58331@grond.sourballs.org> References: <6.0.0.22.0.20040222091410.03a06988@pop.face2interface.com><4038C625.1000102@countrypure.net> <6.0.0.22.0.20040222102019.05afa958@pop.face2interface.com> <49326.192.168.0.97.1077463973.squirrel@webmail.thilelli.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: Marty Landman cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: seeking shell scripting resources X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:01:31 -0000 On Sun, 22 Feb 2004, Julien Gabel wrote: > Haven't found much around at all on shell programming and would like > to start learning it. Any more resources would be most welcome to find > out about. Shells differ in their programming constructs, so anything you learn in one shell may not be transferrable to others. As a personal preference, I usually try to write scripts for /bin/sh (for portability), unless I need a ksh or bash construct. bash is a variant of sh, with a lot of bells and whistles added, so techniques that work in bash *usually* work in sh (and ksh). With that preface, you might try http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ as a start. It's bash-oriented, but a lot if it will apply to other shells (sh and ksh, not so much csh and tcsh) as well. And your system scripts are also an excellent place to learn by example. -- David Fleck david.fleck@mchsi.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 08:12:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56EDA16A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:12:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9981B43D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:12:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) i1MGCFuV001485 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:12:15 GMT (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)id i1MGCFQ7001484; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:12:15 GMT (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:12:15 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman To: Rob Message-ID: <20040222161215.GA1165@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Rob , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4038C549.1020702@users.sourceforge.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4038C549.1020702@users.sourceforge.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is inetd a proxy server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:12:21 -0000 --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 12:05:45AM +0900, Rob wrote: > I don't know much about proxy servers, so I read the handbook on this iss= ue. > When reading the proxy server paragraph in the firewalls section, I=20 > concluded > that my inetd superserver is a kind of proxy server. Is that right? Not really. Inetd is a program for marshalling other servers. It accepts an incoming connection, works out what service it's for, fires up the appropriate server to deal with it, and substitutes that server for itself on the end of the connection in order to receive the request. So with inetd, you end up dealing with the real server that can handle your request. A proxy listens to all of your request, and then opens up a second connection to the real server (or another proxy) for you and replays your request to it -- so all of the traffic is relayed through the proxy. The point of having inetd(8) is that it provides is a mechanism so that you don't have to have umpty-dozen different small servers running all of the time and taking up your process space. It's less important nowadays than it used to be, considering how the price of memory and CPU has fallen, so running loads of different things isn't so problematic anymore, and how the emphasis now is on security -- which means not running those services you don't have an immediate use for -- and speed -- where it's better not to have a process do all of it's initialization stuff on each connection. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAONTfdtESqEQa7a0RAkwGAKCFVtNIdDs4TRRCMa9a6sbdf/c6CgCeMxBL 9yEPcR8FMKUiaTJMbWVykE8= =tC6E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 08:12:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2571316A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:12:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail004.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail004.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40ADB43D1F for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:12:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tfrank@optushome.com.au) Received: from marvin.home.local (c211-28-241-189.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au [211.28.241.189])i1MGCBs28748; Mon, 23 Feb 2004 03:12:14 +1100 Received: by marvin.home.local (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5045A2AD; Mon, 23 Feb 2004 03:12:11 +1100 (EST) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 03:12:11 +1100 From: Tony Frank To: D J Hawkey Jr Message-ID: <20040222161211.GB35539@marvin.home.local> References: <20040221160709.GA22447@sheol.localdomain> <1455334090.20040221175633@buz.ch> <20040221172328.GA22671@sheol.localdomain> <20040222140538.GA16873@marvin.home.local> <20040222150723.GA25548@sheol.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040222150723.GA25548@sheol.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: Tony Frank cc: Gabriel Ambuehl cc: questions at FreeBSD Subject: Re: Clarification needed on Handbook: Tracking for Multiple Machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:12:22 -0000 Hi, On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 09:07:23AM -0600, D J Hawkey Jr wrote: > On Feb 23, at 01:05 AM, Tony Frank wrote: > > > > On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 11:23:28AM -0600, D J Hawkey Jr wrote: > > > On Feb 21, at 05:56 PM, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > > > > > > > > DJHJ> Second, two machines are of the same architecture, but they have different > > > > DJHJ> CPUs: One is an Intel PIII, but the other is a PII. Will the world built > > > > DJHJ> on a PIII be correct for a PII? Similarly, will the kernel for the PII > > > > DJHJ> built on a PIII be correct for the PII, given the different variables and > > > > DJHJ> settings in the two kernel configuration files? > > > > > > > > Just make sure you build for 686. If that doesn't work, make it 586 (I > > > > think the PI qualifies as 686 but I'm not entirely sure). I think the extensions such as > > > > SSE etc are detected dynamically and shouldn't cause any problem. > > > > In all my years of messing with builds, I never run into this problem, > > > > so I guess it's pretty safe. > > > Yes, both [my] machines define I686_CPU. > > > > > > "Dynamically", as in "at runtime"? I think you're right, but I don't > > > know for certain, either. This is exactly what I'm wondering about; > > > the PII has only MMX, for instance, while the PIII has SSE and MMX2. > > > > > > I assume the world's codebase is CPU-agnostic within an architecture, > > > but I really don't want to assume this; I'd rather know this. > > > > I have PII, Celeron, PIII and P4 in my environment. > > All these use "I686_CPU" in my kernel configs (I got rid of the other I[345]_CPU types. > > In a desktop's kernel config: > machine i386 > cpu I686_CPU > ident SHEOL > > In my laptop's kernel config: > machine i386 > cpu I686_CPU > ident CHARON > > Getting difficult, isn't it? ;-, > > Boot messages on that desktop from kernel built on that desktop: > CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (764.35-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x686 Stepping = 6 > Features=0x383f9ff > > Boot messages on that laptop from kernel built on that laptop: > CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (233.87-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x652 Stepping = 2 > Features=0x183f9ff > > > In /etc/make.conf I include "CPUTYPE=p2" as the lowest common denominator if > > including a CPUTYPE flag. > > The resulting world & kernel run fine on all the systems. > > > > The higher flags p3 and p4 still just use -march=pentiumpro, however for SSE you > > will need p3 or p4 as MACHINE_CPU does not include SSE for p2 level. > > Check out /usr/share/mk/bsd.cpu.mk for specifics. > > If I read things right, the first chunk in bsd.cpu.mk results in > "CPUTYPE = i686"; the conditional-on-CPU_TYPE-defined assignment > sees "cpu I686_CPU" in the kernel configs, right?. I'm not sure the kernel config is used for this - beyond my current depth. :) > The second > chunk in bsd.cpu.mk also results in "CPUTYPE = i686" (fallthrough). > The third chunk results in "_CPUCFLAGS = -march=pentiumpro", as > you state. Finally, the last chunk in bsd.cpu.mk results in > "MACHINE_CPU = i686 i586 i486 i386". > > If I specify "CPUTYPE=p2" in make.conf, and I'm still reading > things right, the final result in bsd.cpu.mk would be the same > _CPUCFLAGS, and "MACHINE_CPU = i686 mmx i586 i486 i386". > > But based on the boot messages, it would seem that the features of > the chips are detected correctly without specifying a CPUTYPE in > make.conf. So... As things are right now (no CPUTYPE in make.conf), > it would appear that "CPU feature" code is built into the kernels > on the respective machines, and that code correctly detects the > features available. Therefore, I don't see where adding CPUTYPE > in make.conf would get me anything I'm not already getting? CPU feature detection is done elsewhere, the make.conf entry I think will just set the flag so if code elsewhere is written to check for those flags it will use the appropriate bits. > That is, why make things more specific than they have to be? > I don't see where adding "CPUTYPE=p2" on a PIII build machine > would change anything for PII and/or PIII target machines. What > have I missed? I believe there are one or two areas of code (openssl?) that do make use of these flags and enable some optimised routines. Perhaps you can try comparing output of 'openssl speed' after compiling with different options? (eg for CPUTYPE empty, i686 and p2) Someone more familiar with the kernel internals might be able to offer more insight here. > > > > DJHJ> /etc/defaults/make.conf doesn't mention KERNCONF; /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 > > > > DJHJ> does. Since /usr/share/mk/sys.mk sucks in /etc/make.conf, that should > > > > DJHJ> propogate KERNCONF to /usr/src/Makefile, right? > > > > To your original question, yes. > > Just add a KERNCONF= line to /etc/make.conf. > > First entry should be the local machine kernel (to install) and > > any subsequent entries will also be built during 'make buildkernel' > > eg: KERNCONF= MARVIN RAIDER RAIDERI GENERIC > > make buildkernel builds all four. > > make installkernel installs MARVIN. > > Cool. So, the -CURRENT (or is that -STABLE?) Handbook does apply > to 4.5-REL, at least where this stuff is concerned. I will not comment for your 4.5 specifically but it has worked for me for last few years. Could probably lookup the makefile revision history to see when it changed but I'm not really that interested. :) Regards, Tony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 08:16:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF2716A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:16:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50B5B43D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:16:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nkinkade@fastmail.fm) X-Sasl-enc: AVpiYPaU6Crb/RZ/oVcYZQ 1077466616 Received: from [206.26.199.146] (unknown [206.27.244.214]) by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319145CA7D7; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:16:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from nkinkade by [206.26.199.146] with local (Exim 4.12) id 1AuwHP-0002lL-00; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:16:31 -0600 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:16:30 -0600 From: Nathan Kinkade To: "dkouroun@mailbox.gr" Message-ID: <20040222161630.GB4964@nkinkade.bmp.ub> Mail-Followup-To: "dkouroun@mailbox.gr" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <200402221538.RAA26023@mailbox.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6sX45UoQRIJXqkqR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200402221538.RAA26023@mailbox.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: Nathan Kinkade cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: fail to recognize sound device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nathan Kinkade List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:16:58 -0000 --6sX45UoQRIJXqkqR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 05:38:36PM +0200, dkouroun@mailbox.gr wrote: > Dear Sirs, > Thank you for Giving FreeBSD for free. Basically I would like to ask > you about a problem I have with the sound hardware which I wasn't able > to resolve. And I also have some suggestions to make! >=20 > After Installation when writing #startx, at the prompt KDE loads and I > get a message than sound driver /dev/pcm couldn't be found. SuSE and > Redhat both recognize my sound driver as 82801DB AC'97. Further more > alot of stuff like xmms, and other applications were not installed > although I checked them to be installed when I was asked. The funny > thing is that those applications exist in /usr/.../ports.=20 >=20 > 1:How can I configure my sound device? Unless something has changed sound is not configured in the default (generic) kernel. You can either add 'device pcm' to your kernel config file and recompile, or you can load the pcm module with '$kldload snd_pcm'. > 2:How can I install xmms or other stuff which exist in my hard-drive > but are not installed? You may be confused about how the ports work. Just because a directory exists in /usr/ports/ doesn't mean that the port is installed. If you type 'xmms' at a prompt and XMMS doesn't launch, the either it isn't installed or your PATH environment variable is non-standard. To install applications (if you have an Internet connection), xmms for example, do: # cd /usr/ports/multimedia/xmms # make install clean This will fetch the sources from the Internet, compile and install the program. You can also install precompiled packages and perhaps the easiest way of doing this is to use the /stand/sysinstall program. Once sysinstall has initialized goto Configure->Packages. > 3:How can I configure kdm such that I can switch window manager and I > do not have to type startx all the time? The easiest way is to start using display manager that will allow you to select your window manager. If you are using KDE, then you may like KDM which may already be installed if you have KDE installed. To cause it to launch on boot, edit the file /etc/ttys and change 'xdm' to 'kdm' in the following line: ttyv8 "/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm off secure > Suggestions: > 1: It would be really attractive if the installation of FreeBSD was as > easy and comfortable(visual stuff) as SuSE's. =46rom my perspective, the FreeBSD installer is very intuitive. Something doesn't necessarily have to be graphical and point-and-click to be easy to use and logical. > 2: It would be nice if kdm or xdm or something was installed and > needen't have to be configured after installation. For instance during > the installation the user should be asked if he would like to have xdm > or kdm installed ... I could be wrong about this, but I think KDM is installed if you choose to install KDE3. XDM comes along with XFree86, too. Not sure about whether you are prompted to use one of these by default during install, though. > Thanks in advance! > Looking forward to your answer! > Drosos. Nathan --=20 gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys D8527E49 --6sX45UoQRIJXqkqR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAONXeO0ZIEthSfkkRApL2AJwIHIJhD1Ro3TRa6A+w+VuEwgIkVwCfdRsK yw5xOaWxRLoFIwEXCUcFBwo= =Srav -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6sX45UoQRIJXqkqR-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 08:22:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0088F16A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:22:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from cheyenne.wixb.com (cheyenne.wixb.com [65.43.82.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDBA043D1F for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:22:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Message-Id: <6.0.3.0.2.20040222102100.00b51058@cheyenne.wixb.com> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:22:45 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "J.D. Bronson" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Bind9 startup on 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:22:47 -0000 I have built Bind9 from src and it runs just fine when started manually. However no matter what I tried to do with rc.conf and the named startup script, I cannot get it to start! I run the script manually and it exists with no output and no success. How do I troubleshoot this -or- write my own startup and skip this? (I am used to doing this on 4.9 where startup was very trivial!) thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 08:23:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D83C316A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:23:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from sierra.rtfm.com (sierra.rtfm.com [198.144.203.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D8943D1F for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:23:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ekr@rtfm.com) Received: from rtfm.com (romeo.rtfm.com [198.144.203.242]) by sierra.rtfm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF076722D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:24:06 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: mh-e 6.1; nmh 1.0.4; Emacs 21.4 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:23:59 -0800 From: Eric Rescorla Message-Id: <20040222162406.CF076722D@sierra.rtfm.com> Subject: Creative Extigy with FreeBSD 4.9? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:24:00 -0000 I've got a 4.9 machine which I'd like to interface to my Creative Extigy external amp for playing MP3s and the like. For obvious reasons, I'd like to have that connection be digital. After some research, it looks like there are two choices: (1) SPDIF I've got an Asus P4C-800E mainboard with a built-in interface that dmesg reports as: pcm0: port 0xee80-0xeebf,0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xfebff400-0xf ebff4ff,0xfebff800-0xfebff9ff irq 5 at device 31.5 on pci0 pcm0: The card has an SPDIF output, but I'm not sure how to get mplayer (or anything else) to actually use it. I've installed mplayer out of ports and from reading the not very clear documentation, it looks like "-ac hwac3" should do the trick, but what I get when I try that is: ========================================================================== Forced audio codec: hwac3 *** Try to upgrade /users/ekr/.mplayer/codecs.conf from etc/codecs.conf *** If it still does not work, read DOCS/codecs.html! Cannot find codec for audio format 0x55. ========================================================================== (2) USB The Extigy has a USB plug in the front so I would think I could use uaudio, but it's even more unclear to me how that works. When I plugged it in, nothing interesting happened (i.e. nothing on the console or syslog suggesting that it even saw the device). usbd is running. Any suggestions here would be great! Thanks, -Ekr From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 08:34:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 957A216A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:34:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from chaucer.statcan.ca (CPE0050fc727b74-CM014270107825.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.43.93.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DCB43D1F for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:34:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@chaucer.statcan.ca) Received: from chaucer.statcan.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chaucer.statcan.ca (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i1MGXG0S090979; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:33:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@chaucer.statcan.ca) Received: (from mike@localhost) by chaucer.statcan.ca (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id i1MGXG3l090978; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:33:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:33:15 -0500 From: Mike Jeays To: Stephen Liu Message-Id: <20040222113315.5d757673.mj001@rogers.com> In-Reply-To: <4038CEEE.3090000@icare.com.hk> References: <4038CEEE.3090000@icare.com.hk> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fail to start KDE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:34:39 -0000 On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 23:46:54 +0800 Stephen Liu wrote: > Hi all folks, > > Version 5.2 > new installation > > I encountered problem in starting KDE after installation. > > 1) > KDE installed > pkg_info | grep kde > kde-3.1.4 The "meta-port" for KDE > kdeaddons-3.1.4 Additional plugins and scripts for some KDE applications > kdeadmin-3.1.4 KDE applications related to system administration > kdeartwork-3.1.4_1 Additional themes, sounds, wallpapers and window > styles for > kdebase-3.1.4 This package provides the basic applications for the KDE sy > kdeedu-3.1.4 Collection of entertaining, educational programs for KDE > kdegames-3.1.4 Games for the KDE integrated X11 desktop > kdegraphics-3.1.4 Graphics utilities for the KDE3 integrated X11 desktop > kdelibs-3.1.4_1 This is the base set of libraries needed by KDE programs > kdemultimedia-3.1.4 Multimedia utilities for the KDE integrated X11 desktop > kdenetwork-3.1.4 Network-related programs and modules for KDE > kdepim-3.1.4 Personal Information Management tools for KDE > kdesdk-3.1.4 KDE Software Development Kit > kdetoys-3.1.4 Small applications for KDE > kdeutils-3.1.4 Utilities for the KDE integrated X11 desktop > kdevelop-2.1.5 Powerful IDE for developing KDE/Qt-based apps > > 2) > /home/user/.xinitrc file not found > > ls -al /home/user/ > total 22 > drwxr-xr-x 2 satimis wheel 512 Feb 23 05:58 . > drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Feb 23 07:16 .. > -rw------- 1 satimis wheel 0 Feb 23 05:58 .Xauthority > -rw-r--r-- 1 satimis wheel 767 Feb 23 07:16 .cshrc > -rw-r--r-- 1 satimis wheel 248 Feb 23 07:16 .login > -rw-r--r-- 1 satimis wheel 158 Feb 23 07:16 .login_conf > -rw------- 1 satimis wheel 373 Feb 23 07:16 .mail_aliases > -rw-r--r-- 1 satimis wheel 331 Feb 23 07:16 .mailrc > -rw-r--r-- 1 satimis wheel 797 Feb 23 07:16 .profile > -rw------- 1 satimis wheel 276 Feb 23 07:16 .rhosts > -rw-r--r-- 1 satimis wheel 975 Feb 23 07:16 .shrc > -rw------- 1 satimis wheel 106 Feb 23 05:58 .xsession-errors > > 3) > cat /home/user/.xsession-errors > Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server > Xlib: No protocol specified > Error: Can't open display: :0 > > Kindly advise how to fix the problems. > > TIA > > B.R. > satimis > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Create a file .xinitrc in the home directory, containing the single line 'startkde &' (without the quotes). Then try startx again. -- Personal : Mike.Jeays -at- rogers.com Phone : 613-724-4510 Work : Mike.Jeays -at- statcan.ca Phone : 613-951-9929 FAX 613-951-0395 Web page : http://members.rogers.com/mike.jeays From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 08:49:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6326B16A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:49:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from phoenix.smluc.org (phoenix.smluc.org [12.28.48.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D530343D2F for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:49:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from erik@phoenix.smluc.org) Received: (qmail 8095 invoked by uid 1000); 22 Feb 2004 16:49:14 -0000 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:49:14 -0600 From: Erik Greenwald To: Derrick Ryalls Message-ID: <20040222164914.GA7944@phoenix.smluc.org> References: <019701c3f916$d293bc80$0201a8c0@aragorn> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <019701c3f916$d293bc80$0201a8c0@aragorn> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i cc: gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: ale@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MySQL error 2013 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:49:14 -0000 On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 11:38:11PM -0800, Derrick Ryalls wrote: > Googling around, I see lots of reference to glibc issues, but I thought > that only applied to Linux. I have tried mysql41-server port (fresh > cvsup), mysql40, and a package mysql323, and they all have the same > issue. That leads me to believe that the o/s has the issue, not mysql. > Does anyone have a clue on what I need to check/upgrade? > > Current system: FreeBSD 4.9-RC #0: Tue Oct 7 yeah, glibc would be linux only... but there're a couple pr's for this issue on freebsd right now. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/62845 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=misc/63213 (currently, there is no fix.. the workaround is to connect via a local socket/pipe). Mind if I ask what cpu/mb you're operating on? -- -Erik [http://math.smsu.edu/~erik] The opinions expressed by me are not necessarily opinions. In all probability, they are random rambling, and to be ignored. Failure to ignore may result in severe boredom or confusion. Shake well before opening. Keep Refrigerated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 08:50:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1166616A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:50:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from may.priocom.com (may.priocom.com [213.156.65.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8EB43D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:50:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mirya@ukrpost.net) Received: from dialup-146.146.sitel.com.ua ([217.27.146.146]) by may.priocom.com with asmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Auwlt-0000As-P9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:48:02 +0200 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:41:54 +0200 From: Kyryll A Mirnenko X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Personal Organization: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <51-2629189.20040222184154@ukrpost.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ISP dialing with callback X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Kyryll A Mirnenko List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:50:58 -0000 This topic seems to be an elder one, but nobody around couldn't help me. I need to setup ppp (user) to dial to my callback-ISP. Here're useful info: 1). IPS uses PAP authentification. 2). Phone number negotiation is unsupported, I need to send it. When using Windows ppp-dialer (really buggy), everything is OK, so that's not ISP problem. Direct connection & authentification goes right, but no incoming call after that. I browsed my logs & only strange thing I found is there was no phone number I should send (at least in the readable part, not in the packages sent). Here're my configs (truncated with dummy logins & passwords :) - the provider entry is "sitel": [ /etc/ppp/ppp.conf ] default: set log phase tun chat cbcp command pap ident user-ppp VERSION (built COMPILATIONDATE) set device /dev/cual0 set speed 38400 set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \ \"\" AT OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0 OK \\dATDP\\T TIMEOUT 80 CONNECT" set timeout 180 # 3 minute idle timer (the default) enable dns # request DNS info (for resolv.conf) enable vjcomp deflate deflate24 protocomp pred1 accept vjcomp deflate deflate24 protocomp pred1 set urgent udp +53 sitel: set phone 2053203 set authname CALLER set authkey MYPASSWORD set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.255 add default HISADDR set callback auth cbcp E.164 6661313 set cbcp 6661313 incoming: set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.255 set authname CALLER set authkey MYPASSWORD [ /etc/ppp/ppp.secret ] CALLER MYPASSWORD * * 6661313 [ /etc/ttys ] console none unknown off secure # ttyv0 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25u on secure # Virtual terminals ttyv1 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25u on secure ttyv2 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25u on secure ttyv3 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25u on secure ttyv4 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25u off secure ttyv5 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25u off secure ttyv6 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25u off secure ttyv7 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25u off secure ttyv8 "/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xtermu off secure # ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty callback1" dialup on # AND SO ON... [ /etc/gettytab ] default:\ :cb:ce:ck:lc:fd#1000:im=\r\n%s/%m (%h) (%t)\r\n\r\n:sp#1200:\ :if=/etc/issue: # my callback account callback1|38400-baud:\ :np:sp#38400:pp=/etc/ppp/callback.ppp: # AND OTHERS... [ /etc/ppp/callback.ppp ] #!/bin/sh echo "!!! Incoming call. Use kill -TERM $$ to kill it..." | wall -g wheel exec /usr/sbin/ppp -direct incoming That's all. If have a solution or any experience in setting-up user-ppp callback, reply (workable configs won't be out of place). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 08:55:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE3A16A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:55:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from antsrv1.ant.uni-bremen.de (antsrv1.ant.uni-bremen.de [134.102.176.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648E443D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:55:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rebehn@ant.uni-bremen.de) Received: from europa.ant.uni-bremen.de ([134.102.176.10] helo=ant.uni-bremen.de) by antsrv1.ant.uni-bremen.de with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1AuwtO-0000EL-VT; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:55:46 +0100 Message-ID: <4038EBBA.9030400@ant.uni-bremen.de> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:49:46 +0000 From: Heinrich Rebehn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040212 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch References: <4037A0BB.8030807@ant.uni-bremen.de> <44n07c85md.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <40388FF1.4000004@ant.uni-bremen.de> <1664802739.20040222113449@buz.ch> <4038D21B.2030903@ant.uni-bremen.de> <1693129206.20040222172315@buz.ch> In-Reply-To: <1693129206.20040222172315@buz.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UNEXPECTED SOFTUPDATES INCONSISTENCY X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:55:48 -0000 Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > Hello Heinrich, > > Sunday, February 22, 2004, 5:00:27 PM, you wrote: > >>Why that? I can imagine that i lose data in case of a power failure, but >>why in case of a crash? > > > Well I guess the card COULD still commit the data, however, who knows > if it actually does it? > > >>And why is write cache only dangerous with softupdates, as you wrote above? > > > IIRC softupdates relies on the assumption that when the softupdate > changes return, they really ARE on the disk. It's the same with most > RDBMS: because they go to great lengths to ensure the journal is in an > ok state they need to know for sure that the data they wrote to it > actually made it to disk. > > >>Since i found no word about disabling write cache in the FreeBSD >>handbook or in man tuning(7), i would really like to know, if this is >>just a rumour, or where does it come from? > > > I can't say for sure, but I have little confidence in write caching > anyhow. It changes semantics the system relies on, for one. > > > > > Best regards, > Gabriel > Gabriel, what you write does make sense, although i really can't understand why this important info is not in the FreeBSD documentation. I have disabled write cache, but i will keep softupdates disabled as well for now, and see how the system behaves. Thanks for your help, Heinrich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 08:58:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB53F16A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:58:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from www6.web2010.com (www6.web2010.com [216.157.5.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A094543D1F for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 08:58:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from MLandman@face2interface.com) Received: from delliver.face2interface.com (dialup-wash-129-203.thebiz.net [64.30.129.203] (may be forged)) by www6.web2010.com (8.12.10/8.9.0) with ESMTP id i1MGvo89023250; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:57:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20040222114940.06a3bc70@pop.face2interface.com> X-Sender: face@pop.face2interface.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:58:10 -0500 To: Matthew Seaman , Rob From: Marty Landman In-Reply-To: <20040222161215.GA1165@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co .uk> References: <4038C549.1020702@users.sourceforge.net> <20040222161215.GA1165@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is inetd a proxy server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:58:16 -0000 At 11:12 AM 2/22/2004, Matthew Seaman wrote: >A proxy listens to all of your request, and then opens up a second >connection to the real server (or another >proxy) for you and replays your request to it -- so all of the traffic is >relayed through the proxy. Newbie here Matthew. Could you please explain how a proxy differs from a router? Or are they in many ways intersecting in their functionality? e.g. I've got a class c network in my office and recently learned how to use apache to reverse proxy a request so that http://my-ip-adr/fbsd becomes the same as http://fbsd, where the latter is mapped to the ip addr for my fbsd box on the lan by apache. (which btw is kind of cool) >The point of having inetd(8) is that it provides is a mechanism so that >you don't have to have umpty-dozen different small servers running all of >the time and taking up your process space. I notice that mingetty runs ~ half a dozen instances on my box, waiting for console users that will never come since as a rule I do everything thru ssh on my windows workstation. And httpd, though I've cut the child process spec down on the apache conf since it's not needed. Of course the saved cycles aren't needed either in my current environment. :) Could httpd be set up to run via inetd instead of on its own? If so, is it not typically done this way because it is usually the biggie app on servers? Following that reasoning, if a server were primarily used for ftp would it make sense to remove ftpd from inetd's conf file and instead start it as a service, assuming that were possible? Marty Landman Face 2 Interface Inc 845-679-9387 This Month's New Quiz --- Past Superbowl Winners Make a Website: http://face2interface.com/Home/Demo.shtml From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 09:01:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C06316A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:01:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from gaff.hhhr.ision.net (gaff.hhhr.ision.net [195.180.9.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B40F343D1F for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:01:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ohoyer@gaff.hhhr.ision.net) Received: from gaff.hhhr.ision.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gaff.hhhr.ision.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i1MH1aOL057114; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:01:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ohoyer@gaff.hhhr.ision.net) Received: from localhost (ohoyer@localhost)i1MH1ZFx057111; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:01:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ohoyer@gaff.hhhr.ision.net) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:01:34 +0100 (CET) From: Olaf Hoyer To: Marty Landman In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20040222095859.03dc3c78@pop.face2interface.com> Message-ID: <20040222174400.T57042@gaff.hhhr.ision.net> References: <20040221052137.GL24309@hardesty.saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com> <4037D5D7.8030700@mac.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20040222085418.01b94e68@pop.face2interface.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20040222095859.03dc3c78@pop.face2interface.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DHCP access X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:01:34 -0000 On Sun, 22 Feb 2004, Marty Landman wrote: > At 09:42 AM 2/22/2004, Olaf Hoyer wrote: > > >The syntax to ping a whole /24 segment would be: > > Hi Olaf. Could you please explain what is meant by '/24 segment'? I'm new > to networking as you can see! Hi! Well, what is formerly called a "Class C" network is now in the new CIDR-notation a "/24", meaning that there are 256 IP's in that network. A class A is a /8, a class B a /16. Yes, there are some subtle differencies about how a router addresses this, but for size they are the same. > > # nmap -sP 192.168.0.0/24 > > Starting nmap V. 3.00 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) > sendto in send_ip_raw: sendto(4, packet, 28, 0, 192.168.0.8, 16) => Can't > assign requested address > Sleeping 60 seconds then retrying Seems to be a bug with nmap V3.00 I use 3.50, and it works. Solution could be an upgrade or exclusion of your own box from the scanning range. > >after this you will also have some output from the arp -a command, > >because the arp cache has to be filled somehow. > > swamisalami# arp -a > ? (192.168.0.0) at ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff on ep0 permanent [ethernet] > delliver (192.168.0.1) at 00:08:74:c0:5e:69 on ep0 [ethernet] > woody (192.168.0.3) at 00:a0:cc:40:3e:9b on ep0 [ethernet] > swamisalami (192.168.0.7) at 00:20:af:4d:24:b7 on ep0 permanent [ethernet] > ? (192.168.0.8) at (incomplete) on ep0 [ethernet] > penguin (192.168.0.160) at 00:a0:24:75:04:49 on ep0 [ethernet] > eileen (192.168.0.240) at 00:a0:cc:40:55:cf on ep0 [ethernet] > ? (192.168.0.255) at ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff on ep0 permanent [ethernet] > swamisalami# > > Ok, not sure why the output was broken up into two portions but it has now > captured all the nodes on my box. Furthermore a subsequent arp -a gives a > more usable output e.g. snip > > Did you mean then that I should run the nmap followed by the arp -a to get > a look at all nodes on my class c network? In this case it seems the only > thing needed for me to put this into a shell script is a way to not have to > manually interrupt the nmap which seemed to want to keep trying, after > sleeping for progressively longer periods of time. Unless there is a glitch > to be worked around somehow on 192.168.0.8 (never in use on my network > afaik) and that what happened here was not typical behavior. Ok, some basics beforehand: anytime some hosts wants to contact another host, it yells with some broadcast on the local collision segment (arp-request) that the Station, which has IP-address a.b.c.d. sprays the answer (the MAC-Address on the other station) back throughout the segment. This answer is cached by the OS for a short time, that for future use no unnecessary lookups have to be made. This means, that, if you hook up a station to a LAN, which did not participiated in any of the LAN traffic, the arp cache on that station is of course empty. One way to fill it, is by simply pinging all other hosts on that segment. like: #!/bin/sh ping 192.168.0.1 ping 192.168.0.2 . . . ping 192.168.0.254 nmap -sP does exactly the same above, but with less typing effort ;-) For each station that is up and running, you get a MAC address back, and therefore the arp cache is populated. > It would be a nice utility for me to have and perhaps run off cron - i.e. > to test each connection on my network and report back so I know on a steady > basis that everything's up and running (or at least reachable). Yes, would be practicable. You should consider updating nmap, though... HTH Olaf -- Olaf Hoyer ohoyer@gaff.hhhr.ision.net Fuerchterliche Erlebniss geben zu raten, ob der, welcher sie erlebt, nicht etwas Fuerchterliches ist. (Nietzsche, Jenseits von Gut und Boese) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 09:07:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC6BA16A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:07:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from makeworld.com (chcgil2-ar9-4-60-214-019.chcgil2.dsl-verizon.net [4.60.214.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4259843D2D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:07:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from evrtwa1-ar12-4-46-162-188.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net (racerx@evrtwa1-ar12-4-46-162-188.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net [4.46.162.188]) by makeworld.com (8.12.11/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i1MH7rOL016270 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:07:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) From: Chris To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:07:52 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6 References: <4038CEEE.3090000@icare.com.hk> <20040222113315.5d757673.mj001@rogers.com> In-Reply-To: <20040222113315.5d757673.mj001@rogers.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200402221107.52741.racerx@makeworld.com> Subject: Re: Fail to start KDE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:07:55 -0000 On Sunday 22 February 2004 10:33 am, Mike Jeays wrote: > On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 23:46:54 +0800 > > Create a file .xinitrc in the home directory, containing the single > line 'startkde &' (without the quotes). Then try startx again. Kindly explain the difference between between the following in your .xinitrc file. exec startkde startkde & -- Best regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 09:14:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 838D816A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:14:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4267043D2F for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:14:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from localhost.invalid (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i1MHEJ9U007309; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:14:19 -0800 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:14:46 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.6 References: <20040222122829.GA51371@xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20040222122829.GA51371@xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200402220914.46586.kstewart@owt.com> cc: fjaspers@xs4all.nl Subject: Re: Kernel build problem after make world X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:14:48 -0000 On Sunday 22 February 2004 04:28 am, fjaspers@xs4all.nl wrote: > Hi, > > I upgraded my system from RELEASE 5.0 to RELENG_5_2. > Used cvsup to get the sources, made buildworld; made a generic > kernel; installed world. Everything went well, i was able to boot > into multi-user mode. > > BUT now i would like build a custom kernel. This doesnt work anymore. > I tried it both ways. (make builkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL, > or config MYKERNEL, make depend; make;) > > The kernel sources seem to compile, but when the linker starts my > screen is flooded with unknown "Unknown referernces errors" > > Would anybody known what causes this? > Should there be some magic new entry in /etc/make.conf? > For starters, I think we would need to see the messages. What has me concerned is whether you installed your kernel before you did the installworld. Version 5.2 has a different statfs, which needs the new kernel to run. An old world and a new kernel was fine but an old kernel and a new world was a show stopper. You had to use the fixit disk to recover your system. There are different options in the config file for 5.2 and you would need to start with a new GENERIC to create your MYKERNEL. Beyond that, I don't have any ideas at this point. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 09:16:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E82016A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:16:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 669CD43D2D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:16:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from enabled.com (localhost.enabled.com [127.0.0.1]) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i1MHGjcw094580 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:16:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) From: "Noah" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:16:45 -0800 Message-Id: <20040222171405.M82310@enabled.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.30 20040117 X-OriginatingIP: 64.121.33.4 (admin2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: xsnow not building X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:16:46 -0000 FreeBSD 4.8-stable still getting used to installing X applications here: xsnow is not building from /usr/ports # make install clean [/usr/ports/x11/xsnow] ===> Vulnerability check disabled >> xsnow-1.42.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. >> Attempting to fetch from http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/Xsnow/. Receiving xsnow-1.42.tar.gz (56752 bytes): 100% 56752 bytes transferred in 19.6 seconds (2.83 kBps) ===> Extracting for xsnow-1.42 >> Checksum OK for xsnow-1.42.tar.gz. ===> Patching for xsnow-1.42 ===> xsnow-1.42 depends on file: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/date.def - found ===> xsnow-1.42 depends on shared library: X11.6 - found ===> Configuring for xsnow-1.42 env: xmkmf: No such file or directory *** Error code 127 --- snip --- % pkg_info | grep XFree86 [~] XFree86-3.3.6_11 X11R6.3/XFree86 core distribution XFree86-font100dpi-4.2.0 XFree86-4 bitmap 100 dpi fonts XFree86-font75dpi-4.2.0 XFree86-4 bitmap 75 dpi fonts XFree86-fontCyrillic-4.2.0 XFree86-4 Cyrillic Fonts XFree86-fontDefaultBitmaps-4.2.0 XFree86-4 default bitmap fonts XFree86-fontEncodings-4.2.0 XFree86-4 font encoding files XFree86-fontScalable-4.2.0 XFree86-4 Scalable font files imake-4.2.0_1 Imake and other utilities from XFree86 imake-4.3.0 Imake and other utilities from XFree86 --- snip --- any clues here? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 09:20:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC3B16A4CF; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:20:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from corb.mc.mpls.visi.com (corb.mc.mpls.visi.com [208.42.156.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2275D43D2D; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:20:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hawkeyd@visi.com) Received: from sheol.localdomain (hawkeyd-fw.dsl.visi.com [208.42.101.193]) by corb.mc.mpls.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA9A8405; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:20:40 -0600 (CST) Received: (from hawkeyd@localhost) by sheol.localdomain (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) id i1MHKdL26024; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:20:39 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hawkeyd) X-Spam-Policy: http://www.visi.com/~hawkeyd/index.html#mail Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:20:39 -0600 From: D J Hawkey Jr To: Tony Frank Message-ID: <20040222172039.GA25979@sheol.localdomain> References: <20040221160709.GA22447@sheol.localdomain> <1455334090.20040221175633@buz.ch> <20040221172328.GA22671@sheol.localdomain> <20040222140538.GA16873@marvin.home.local> <20040222150723.GA25548@sheol.localdomain> <20040222161211.GB35539@marvin.home.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040222161211.GB35539@marvin.home.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clarification needed on Handbook: Tracking for Multiple Machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: hawkeyd@visi.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:20:41 -0000 OK, I've cross-posted this message to -hackers, to see if we can get some sort of definitive [to me] answer. Please forgive if it's considered bad form. -hackers: There is a thread in -questions in response to my query as to building the world and kernels for a variety of Intel CPUs on one machine. For brevity's sake, I won't reproduce the entire thread here. OK, I guess my question boils down to these, then: True or False: Setting CPUTYPE to the lowest target CPU ("p2") in a build machine's make.conf will cripple the performance of target machines with higher CPUs ("p3", "p4", "i586", "i686", etc.). If "True", for optimized code across all machines, the code should just be built on each machine, right? Thanks, Dave -- ______________________ ______________________ \__________________ \ D. J. HAWKEY JR. / __________________/ \________________/\ hawkeyd@visi.com /\________________/ http://www.visi.com/~hawkeyd/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 09:23:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A97316A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:23:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C0DE43D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:23:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from enabled.com (localhost.enabled.com [127.0.0.1]) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i1MHNDWI010008 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:23:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) From: "Noah" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:23:13 -0800 Message-Id: <20040222172233.M16346@enabled.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.30 20040117 X-OriginatingIP: 64.121.33.4 (admin2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: gnome2 install failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:23:14 -0000 Hi, I am attempting to install gnome2 any clues what I am missing here. why is pkg-config so old? how do I update it? checking for pkg-config... /usr/local/bin/pkg-config configure: error: *** pkg-config too old; version 0.14 or better required. ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. Please report the problem to gnome@FreeBSD.org [maintainer] and attach the "/usr/ports/devel/glib20/work/glib-2.2.3/config.log" including the output of the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. an `ls /var/db/pkg`). *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/glib20. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/libgtop2. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/gnomeapplets2. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/gnome2. - Noah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 09:29:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC7416A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:29:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.ewetel.de (mail2-116.ewetel.de [212.6.122.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D078943D1F for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:29:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from uwe.laverenz@ewetel.net) Received: from athena.laverenz.de (dialin-80-228-11-100.ewetel.net [80.228.11.100]) by mail2.ewetel.de (8.12.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i1MHTLVA029634 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:29:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (localhost.laverenz.de [127.0.0.1]) by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AE28580F3 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:29:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from athena.laverenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (athena.laverenz.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 93952-02 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:29:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from ewetel.net (voodoo.laverenz.de [192.168.100.3]) by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B052257CA6 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:29:15 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4038E6EB.2070009@ewetel.net> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:29:15 +0100 From: Uwe Laverenz Organization: private site User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040219 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <000801c3f8ad$96bdfd10$0101a8c0@SERVIDOR> In-Reply-To: <000801c3f8ad$96bdfd10$0101a8c0@SERVIDOR> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at laverenz.de X-CheckCompat: OK Subject: Re: Nvidia X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:29:27 -0000 Eduardo Fernandes wrote: > how install nvidia drivers in freebsd 5.2? AFAIK the nvidia drivers don't work with FreeBSD 5.2 anymore. Last time I tried was 2 weeks ago with -CURRENT and it did not work. I switched back to RELENG_4. cu, Uwe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 09:32:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 796F616A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:32:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3635D43D2D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:32:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from localhost.invalid (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i1MHWI9U007450; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:32:18 -0800 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:32:45 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.6 References: <20040222171405.M82310@enabled.com> In-Reply-To: <20040222171405.M82310@enabled.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200402220932.45565.kstewart@owt.com> cc: Noah Subject: Re: xsnow not building X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:32:48 -0000 On Sunday 22 February 2004 09:16 am, Noah wrote: > FreeBSD 4.8-stable > > still getting used to installing X applications here: > > xsnow is not building from /usr/ports > > > # make install clean [/usr/ports/x11/xsnow] > ===> Vulnerability check disabled > > >> xsnow-1.42.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. > >> Attempting to fetch from http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/Xsnow/. > > Receiving xsnow-1.42.tar.gz (56752 bytes): 100% > 56752 bytes transferred in 19.6 seconds (2.83 kBps) > ===> Extracting for xsnow-1.42 > > >> Checksum OK for xsnow-1.42.tar.gz. > > ===> Patching for xsnow-1.42 > ===> xsnow-1.42 depends on file: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/date.def > - found ===> xsnow-1.42 depends on shared library: X11.6 - found > ===> Configuring for xsnow-1.42 > env: xmkmf: No such file or directory > *** Error code 127 > > > --- snip --- > > % pkg_info | grep XFree86 [~] > XFree86-3.3.6_11 X11R6.3/XFree86 core distribution > XFree86-font100dpi-4.2.0 XFree86-4 bitmap 100 dpi fonts > XFree86-font75dpi-4.2.0 XFree86-4 bitmap 75 dpi fonts > XFree86-fontCyrillic-4.2.0 XFree86-4 Cyrillic Fonts > XFree86-fontDefaultBitmaps-4.2.0 XFree86-4 default bitmap fonts > XFree86-fontEncodings-4.2.0 XFree86-4 font encoding files > XFree86-fontScalable-4.2.0 XFree86-4 Scalable font files > imake-4.2.0_1 Imake and other utilities from XFree86 > imake-4.3.0 Imake and other utilities from XFree86 > > --- snip --- > > any clues here? You have a mixed combo. You have part of 3.3.6 installed and 4.2. You need a clean XFree86-4 for anything to work. Do you have an "XFREE86_VERSION" in your /etc/make.conf. I can't think of anyway you would have both 3.3.6 and 4.2 installed unless you did. It also sounds like you might have an out of date port system. At this point, you might as well upgrade to version XFree86-4.3.0. I would think about getting a working 4.2 before updating. There are some problems with make on the older systems. Port maintainers are using new make options that don't work on the pre-4.9 systems. A current 4.9-stable will be different than what you are using now. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 09:33:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF88516A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:33:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mcp.lphp.org (APastourelles-107-1-4-227.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.253.178.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27EBE43D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:33:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ajacoutot@lphp.org) Received: from bsdbox.lphp.local (bsdbox.lphp.local [192.168.0.2]) by mcp.lphp.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i1MHZuL0090701 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:35:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ajacoutot@lphp.org) From: Antoine Jacoutot To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:33:52 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.6 References: <000801c3f8ad$96bdfd10$0101a8c0@SERVIDOR> <4038E6EB.2070009@ewetel.net> In-Reply-To: <4038E6EB.2070009@ewetel.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200402221833.52471.ajacoutot@lphp.org> Subject: Re: Nvidia X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:33:55 -0000 On Sunday 22 February 2004 18:29, Uwe Laverenz wrote: > AFAIK the nvidia drivers don't work with FreeBSD 5.2 anymore. Last time > I tried was 2 weeks ago with -CURRENT and it did not work. I switched > back to RELENG_4. Well... it works great under 5.2. $ cd /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver $ make install clean $ uname -a FreeBSD bsdbox.lphp.local 5.2.1-RC2 FreeBSD 5.2.1-RC2 #0: Sat Feb 21 21:13:50 CET 2004 ajacoutot@bsdbox.lphp.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BSDBOX i386 $ kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 5 0xc0400000 41f5dc kernel 2 1 0xc0820000 1ac8a4 nvidia.ko 3 1 0xc09cd000 51b48 acpi.ko From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 09:36:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDA0516A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:36:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-in.m-online.net (mail-in.m-online.net [62.245.150.237]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB93243D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:36:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from h@schmalzbauer.de) Received: from mail.m-online.net (svr14.m-online.net [192.168.3.144]) by svr8.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4509B28F89 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:36:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from sam.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de (ppp-82-135-2-191.mnet-online.de [82.135.2.191]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26DBB531D3 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:36:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de (cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de [172.21.1.252])i1MHaN74014502 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:36:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from h@schmalzbauer.de) From: Harald Schmalzbauer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:36:11 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.6 References: <000801c3f8ad$96bdfd10$0101a8c0@SERVIDOR> <4038E6EB.2070009@ewetel.net> In-Reply-To: <4038E6EB.2070009@ewetel.net> X-Country: Germany X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-Phone2: +49 (0) 89 18947781 X-Phone1: +49 (0) 163 555 3237 X-Name: Harald Schmalzbauer X-Birthday: 06 Oktober 1972 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Boundary-02=_ViOOAPRTODwATmg"; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200402221836.22314.h@schmalzbauer.de> Subject: Re: Nvidia X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:36:26 -0000 --Boundary-02=_ViOOAPRTODwATmg Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Sonntag, 22. Februar 2004 18:29 schrieb Uwe Laverenz: > Eduardo Fernandes wrote: > > how install nvidia drivers in freebsd 5.2? > > AFAIK the nvidia drivers don't work with FreeBSD 5.2 anymore. Last time > I tried was 2 weeks ago with -CURRENT and it did not work. I switched > back to RELENG_4. They are working like a charm for 5.2 and even for -current. They just don't work with the new libptherad (aka libkse) but there's a not= e=20 in UPDATING what to do if one likes to use the nvidia driver with recent=20 =2Dcurrent. =2DHarry > > cu, > Uwe > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --Boundary-02=_ViOOAPRTODwATmg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBAOOiVBylq0S4AzzwRAlp3AJ9q66CTV2+FCwSx5/HmYSiXz4aBpwCdE7Pq 5V0IVMHDpe2LuMC8c2qMf4o= =z+Tj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Boundary-02=_ViOOAPRTODwATmg-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 09:44:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F84616A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:44:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7762E43D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:44:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from enabled.com (localhost.enabled.com [127.0.0.1]) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i1MHiZOh045856 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:44:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) From: "Noah" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:44:35 -0800 Message-Id: <20040222174152.M60856@enabled.com> In-Reply-To: <200402220932.45565.kstewart@owt.com> References: <20040222171405.M82310@enabled.com> <200402220932.45565.kstewart@owt.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.30 20040117 X-OriginatingIP: 64.121.33.4 (admin2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Re: xsnow not building X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:44:36 -0000 O > > You have a mixed combo. You have part of 3.3.6 installed and 4.2. > You need a clean XFree86-4 for anything to work. Do you have an > "XFREE86_VERSION" in your /etc/make.conf. I can't think of anyway > you would have both 3.3.6 and 4.2 installed unless you did. > > It also sounds like you might have an out of date port system. At > this point, you might as well upgrade to version XFree86-4.3.0. I > would think about getting a working 4.2 before updating. There are > some problems with make on the older systems. Port maintainers are > using new make options that don't work on the pre-4.9 systems. > > A current 4.9-stable will be different than what you are using now. thanks Kent, I understand what I need to do now. well my /usr/ports have teh 4.3.0 version now. so I dont know how I can install 4.2 core distribution also I am cvsup'ing the stable files every night. how can I guarantee that I am receiving the 4.9-stable files? this is the entry I am using: --- snip --- *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4 --- snip --- should that work - how can I verify that its the 4.9 kernel and system files I am receiving? thanks in advance, - Noah > > Kent > > -- > Kent Stewart > Richland, WA > > http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 09:54:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C762416A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:54:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFA043D1F for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:54:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from davidmarkle@comcast.net) Received: from elephant (pcp01908192pcs.kenets01.pa.comcast.net[68.83.145.212]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2004022217541401300df2vee>; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:54:14 +0000 From: "David Markle" To: Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 12:54:42 -0500 Message-ID: <000501c3f96c$f37c0000$0b709697@elephant> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Wrong Geometry Disk Problem (Seagate ST3200822A - 200 GB) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:54:14 -0000 Hello all, I have a problem installing FreeBSD 5.2.1 onto a Seagate Barracuda ST3200822A - 200 GB ATA/100 Hard Drive. Being a bit gun shy from a previous geometry problem mis-install where I almost lost some serious data, I am reluctant to just "try" things until they work. So here goes ... Using the Seagate disk tool, I created a 120 GB NTFS partition and a 200 MB FAT16 partition. Installed Windows XP on the 120 GB part. I want to put FreeBSD on the remaining space (~80 GB). The Seagate HD utility states the following: LBA Sectors are 390,721,968. Standard 512 bytes per sector. XBIOS Physical (and HD Spec Sheet from manufacture) (what BSD FDISK Sees too). C 16383 H 16 S 63 BIOS C 24321 H 255 S 63 When the FreeBSD CD boots and enters sysinstall, I get the usual drive geometry error. I've extensively searched google for some sort of method to calculate the true drive geometry with little success. 1. Is the above BIOS info correct ?? 2. Ultimately, do I want the drive geometry to match up with the LBA sectors ?? 3. Can anyone point me towards something that correctly calculates any drive's TRUE geometry ?? Any help is greatly appreciated... david markle From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 10:00:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9731A16A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:00:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E82F43D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:00:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from localhost.invalid (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i1MHxl9U007735; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:59:47 -0800 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:00:14 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.6 References: <20040222171405.M82310@enabled.com> <200402220932.45565.kstewart@owt.com> <20040222174152.M60856@enabled.com> In-Reply-To: <20040222174152.M60856@enabled.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200402221000.14476.kstewart@owt.com> cc: Noah Subject: Re: xsnow not building X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:00:17 -0000 On Sunday 22 February 2004 09:44 am, Noah wrote: > O > > > You have a mixed combo. You have part of 3.3.6 installed and 4.2. > > You need a clean XFree86-4 for anything to work. Do you have an > > "XFREE86_VERSION" in your /etc/make.conf. I can't think of anyway > > you would have both 3.3.6 and 4.2 installed unless you did. > > > > It also sounds like you might have an out of date port system. At > > this point, you might as well upgrade to version XFree86-4.3.0. I > > would think about getting a working 4.2 before updating. There are > > some problems with make on the older systems. Port maintainers are > > using new make options that don't work on the pre-4.9 systems. > > > > A current 4.9-stable will be different than what you are using now. > > thanks Kent, > > I understand what I need to do now. > well my /usr/ports have teh 4.3.0 version now. so I dont know how I > can install 4.2 core distribution hehehe - I didn't either but it happens :). I created an alias called pkgrep that does a "pkg_info | grep $1". There are a number of things that are easier with an alias. You don't make as many typo's and wonder what happened. You need to cvsup ports-all with a "tag=.". The easy way is to update your ports, run "portsdb -uU" to get a new set of indexs and get used to using portupgrade. It makes being consistant a lot easier :). > > also I am cvsup'ing the stable files every night. > > how can I guarantee that I am receiving the 4.9-stable files? > > this is the entry I am using: > > --- snip --- > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4 > --- snip --- > > should that work - how can I verify that its the 4.9 kernel and > system files I am receiving? Ah, you can cvsup as many times as you want and nothing changes until you do a buildworld, build[install]kernel, reboot to single user mode and installworld. The exact sequence is always in your /usr/src/UPDATING. It sounds like you have most of the pieces but they just aren't quite connected. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 10:02:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8AD416A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:02:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from iota.root-servers.ch (iota.root-servers.ch [193.41.193.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BC9E543D1F for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:02:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 25444 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2004 18:02:45 -0000 Received: from 217-162-134-28.dclient.hispeed.ch (HELO ?10.2.2.3?) (217.162.134.28) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Feb 2004 18:02:45 -0000 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 19:04:30 +0100 From: Gabriel Ambuehl Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <725246800.20040222190430@buz.ch> To: Heinrich Rebehn In-Reply-To: <4038EBBA.9030400@ant.uni-bremen.de> References: <4037A0BB.8030807@ant.uni-bremen.de> <44n07c85md.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <40388FF1.4000004@ant.uni-bremen.de> <1664802739.20040222113449@buz.ch> <4038D21B.2030903@ant.uni-bremen.de> <1693129206.20040222172315@buz.ch> <4038EBBA.9030400@ant.uni-bremen.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: UNEXPECTED SOFTUPDATES INCONSISTENCY X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:02:48 -0000 Hello Heinrich, Sunday, February 22, 2004, 6:49:46 PM, you wrote: > what you write does make sense, although i really can't understand why > this important info is not in the FreeBSD documentation. > I have disabled write cache, but i will keep softupdates disabled as > well for now, and see how the system behaves. I think it was in there. But maybe I'm mixing this with Lehey's excellent but somewhat dated Complete FreeBSD. Anyway, I've been using softupdates since they became avalaible and never had a single problem with them. Can't exactly say the same about ata(4) though but Soren was always very helpful when problems arised. Best regards, Gabriel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 10:04:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0BA16A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:04:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3CA943D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:04:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from kruij557.speed.planet.nl (ipd50a97ba.speed.planet.nl [213.10.151.186]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HTH00DJJZIUD5@smtp01.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 19:04:07 +0100 (MET) Received: from alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kruij557.speed.planet.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i1MI3WHd076706; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 19:03:32 +0100 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by alex.lan (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i1MI3VtG076705; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 19:03:31 +0100 Content-return: prohibited Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 19:03:31 +0100 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <20040222091711.J58331@grond.sourballs.org> To: David Fleck Message-id: <20040222180331.GG892@alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <200402211258.13361.niel@telia.com> <20040222084506.GB892@alex.lan> <50853.204.118.74.216.1077458035.squirrel@mail.alpete.com> <20040222091711.J58331@grond.sourballs.org> X-Authentication-warning: alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Niel cc: Aaron Peterson Subject: Re: I have a dream, of a help/manual/doc system, which is simple to use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:04:08 -0000 On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 09:18:12AM -0600, David Fleck wrote: > On Sun, 22 Feb 2004, Aaron Peterson wrote: > > and of course the manual pages that install with each of the some 10000 > > add on programs. "man " > > ...with *each* of them? Ah, if only that were true.. > dcf>$ man aspell > No manual entry for aspell - All of the apps of the FreeBSD system have one or more man pages. The FreeBSD can not be held responcible for missing man pages for thirth partie software. - Most apps out the port system have one or more pages. - Some apps have there own websites with information. The URL is in the port directory; or in the google database. - Some apps have documentation ins /usr/local/share/doc/ You'll have to make do with what you can find. That just the way it is, sorry. -- Alex Articles based on solutions that I use: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/index.php?dir=docs/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 10:08:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C1116A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:08:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from iota.root-servers.ch (iota.root-servers.ch [193.41.193.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E36843D1F for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:08:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 14679 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2004 16:21:18 -0000 Received: from 217-162-134-28.dclient.hispeed.ch (HELO ?10.2.2.3?) (217.162.134.28) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Feb 2004 16:21:18 -0000 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:23:15 +0100 From: Gabriel Ambuehl Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1693129206.20040222172315@buz.ch> To: Heinrich Rebehn In-Reply-To: <4038D21B.2030903@ant.uni-bremen.de> References: <4037A0BB.8030807@ant.uni-bremen.de> <44n07c85md.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <40388FF1.4000004@ant.uni-bremen.de> <1664802739.20040222113449@buz.ch> <4038D21B.2030903@ant.uni-bremen.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: UNEXPECTED SOFTUPDATES INCONSISTENCY X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:08:19 -0000 Hello Heinrich, Sunday, February 22, 2004, 5:00:27 PM, you wrote: > Why that? I can imagine that i lose data in case of a power failure, but > why in case of a crash? Well I guess the card COULD still commit the data, however, who knows if it actually does it? > And why is write cache only dangerous with softupdates, as you wrote above? IIRC softupdates relies on the assumption that when the softupdate changes return, they really ARE on the disk. It's the same with most RDBMS: because they go to great lengths to ensure the journal is in an ok state they need to know for sure that the data they wrote to it actually made it to disk. > Since i found no word about disabling write cache in the FreeBSD > handbook or in man tuning(7), i would really like to know, if this is > just a rumour, or where does it come from? I can't say for sure, but I have little confidence in write caching anyhow. It changes semantics the system relies on, for one. Best regards, Gabriel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 10:17:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F40E16A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:17:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E3643D1F for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:17:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from enabled.com (localhost.enabled.com [127.0.0.1]) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i1MIHQ6N037719 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:17:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) From: "Noah" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:17:26 -0800 Message-Id: <20040222181644.M38343@enabled.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.30 20040117 X-OriginatingIP: 64.121.33.4 (admin2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: fully deinstall X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:17:28 -0000 Hi, how can I fully deinstall X I will reinstall after I rebuild my machine with a 4.9-Stable system # !pkg [/usr/ports/net/cvsup-without-gui] pkg_info | grep XFree86 XFree86-FontServer-4.2.0 XFree86-4 Font Server XFree86-Server-4.2.0_3 XFree86-4 X server and related programs XFree86-documents-4.2.0 XFree86-4 Document Files XFree86-font100dpi-4.2.0 XFree86-4 bitmap 100 dpi fonts XFree86-font75dpi-4.2.0 XFree86-4 bitmap 75 dpi fonts XFree86-fontCyrillic-4.2.0 XFree86-4 Cyrillic Fonts XFree86-fontDefaultBitmaps-4.2.0 XFree86-4 default bitmap fonts XFree86-fontEncodings-4.2.0 XFree86-4 font encoding files XFree86-fontScalable-4.2.0 XFree86-4 Scalable font files imake-4.2.0_1 Imake and other utilities from XFree86 imake-4.3.0 Imake and other utilities from XFree86 Thanks in advance, Noah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 10:18:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18AAE16A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:18:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from munk.nu (mail.munk.nu [213.152.51.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D16C543D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:18:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from munk@munk.nu) Received: from munk by munk.nu with local (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1AuyBG-000LIh-LC; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:18:18 +0000 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:18:18 +0000 From: Jez Hancock To: "Marc G. Fournier" Message-ID: <20040222181818.GD78736@users.munk.nu> Mail-Followup-To: "Marc G. Fournier" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20040221234738.U9391@ganymede.hub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040221234738.U9391@ganymede.hub.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: Jez Hancock cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Longest uptime X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:18:22 -0000 On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 11:49:22PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > Doesn't (or didn't?) Linux have a 'feature' that allowed ppl to save their > uptimes through a reboot? So, for instance, if it was a schedualed > reboot, uptime still showed one continuous uptime? I'd imagine that this > would be saved through upgrades as well ... There's a similar module for fbsd here: http://garage.freebsd.pl although the site appears to be down at this moment. -- Jez Hancock - System Administrator / PHP Developer http://munk.nu/ http://jez.hancock-family.com/ - Another FreeBSD Diary http://ipfwstats.sf.net/ - ipfw peruser traffic logging From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 10:19:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF2E16A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:19:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F13A43D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:19:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from enabled.com (localhost.enabled.com [127.0.0.1]) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i1MIJv2R037773 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:19:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) From: "Noah" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:19:57 -0800 Message-Id: <20040222181905.M89628@enabled.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.30 20040117 X-OriginatingIP: 64.121.33.4 (admin2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: zsh tutorial X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:19:58 -0000 Hi again, working on a few different things today. is there a good URL for understand zsh out there. I am trying to figure out the best and most practical way to setting up the .zsh configuration files. thanks in advance, Noah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 10:26:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA8D16A4CF for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:26:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from chaucer.statcan.ca (CPE0050fc727b74-CM014270107825.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.43.93.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD09843D2D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:26:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@chaucer.statcan.ca) Received: from chaucer.statcan.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chaucer.statcan.ca (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i1MIPP0S091933 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 13:25:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@chaucer.statcan.ca) Received: (from mike@localhost) by chaucer.statcan.ca (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id i1MIPPYX091932; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 13:25:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 13:25:25 -0500 From: Mike Jeays To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040222132525.6e3c76b4.mj001@rogers.com> In-Reply-To: <200402221107.52741.racerx@makeworld.com> References: <4038CEEE.3090000@icare.com.hk> <20040222113315.5d757673.mj001@rogers.com> <200402221107.52741.racerx@makeworld.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Fail to start KDE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:26:33 -0000 On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:07:52 -0600 Chris wrote: > On Sunday 22 February 2004 10:33 am, Mike Jeays wrote: > > On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 23:46:54 +0800 > > > > > Create a file .xinitrc in the home directory, containing the single > > line 'startkde &' (without the quotes). Then try startx again. > > > Kindly explain the difference between between the following in your .xinitrc > file. > > exec startkde > startkde & > > -- > Best regards, > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Not much in practice - I think they will both work. Exec just says "call this other script/command, and don't return to the calling script. -- Personal : Mike.Jeays -at- rogers.com Phone : 613-724-4510 Work : Mike.Jeays -at- statcan.ca Phone : 613-951-9929 FAX 613-951-0395 Web page : http://members.rogers.com/mike.jeays From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 10:27:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE33116A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:27:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D2D943D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:27:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1])i1MIQruV002862 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:26:53 GMT (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)id i1MIQqo6002861; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:26:52 GMT (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:26:52 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman To: Marty Landman Message-ID: <20040222182652.GB2372@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Marty Landman , Rob , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4038C549.1020702@users.sourceforge.net> <20040222161215.GA1165@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> <6.0.0.22.0.20040222114940.06a3bc70@pop.face2interface.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZfOjI3PrQbgiZnxM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20040222114940.06a3bc70@pop.face2interface.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Rob Subject: Re: Is inetd a proxy server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:27:01 -0000 --ZfOjI3PrQbgiZnxM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 11:58:10AM -0500, Marty Landman wrote: > At 11:12 AM 2/22/2004, Matthew Seaman wrote: >=20 > >A proxy listens to all of your request, and then opens up a second=20 > >connection to the real server (or another > >proxy) for you and replays your request to it -- so all of the traffic i= s=20 > >relayed through the proxy. >=20 > Newbie here Matthew. Could you please explain how a proxy differs from a= =20 > router? Or are they in many ways intersecting in their functionality? e.g= =2E=20 > I've got a class c network in my office and recently learned how to use= =20 > apache to reverse proxy a request so that http://my-ip-adr/fbsd becomes t= he=20 > same as http://fbsd, where the latter is mapped to the ip addr for my fbs= d=20 > box on the lan by apache. (which btw is kind of cool) Sure. A router deals with network traffic at the IP level -- sometimes described as Layer 3 on the OSI 7 layer model. In plain English, the router doesn't care what's inside the packets: it just looks at the IP numbers in the headers and relays the packets appropriately. A router will work for all sorts of traffic -- HTTP, FTP, SSH, SMTP, whatever (unless you've deliberately added a packet filter) -- unlike a proxy, which works at the protocol level: thus you'll get an HTTP proxy or a FTP proxy or a SMTP relay or a DNS recursive server -- the names vary, but they all do proxy service. It's also common for proxies to cache previous traffic and reply out of cache instead of going all the way back to the originating server, but that's not a requirement. Sometimes the software used to implement a proxy is actually identical to the software you'ld use to implement the originating server -- as commonly seen with most MTAs and BIND and occasionally Apache HTTPD as you've done -- although specialised proxying software is more generally used for HTTP and FTP and the like. =20 > >The point of having inetd(8) is that it provides is a mechanism so that= =20 > >you don't have to have umpty-dozen different small servers running all o= f=20 > >the time and taking up your process space. >=20 > I notice that mingetty runs ~ half a dozen instances on my box, waiting f= or=20 > console users that will never come since as a rule I do everything thru s= sh=20 > on my windows workstation. And httpd, though I've cut the child process= =20 > spec down on the apache conf since it's not needed. Of course the saved= =20 > cycles aren't needed either in my current environment. :) getty(8) is pretty light weight, and it doesn't take much extra memory to run multiple copies of it. It's also the case that while you may not need to log in via the console during normal usage, when you do need console access then you generally need it very badly. =20 =20 > Could httpd be set up to run via inetd instead of on its own? If so, is i= t=20 > not typically done this way because it is usually the biggie app on=20 > servers? Following that reasoning, if a server were primarily used for ft= p=20 > would it make sense to remove ftpd from inetd's conf file and instead sta= rt=20 > it as a service, assuming that were possible? You can run apache 1.3.x through inetd -- see the 'ServerType' directive in httpd.conf: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/core.html#servertype As it says in bright red letters: "Inetd mode is no longer recommended and does not always work properly. Avoid it if at all possible." ServerType no longer exists in apache 2.0.x. If you are running a busy FTP site, then yes, running a standalone FTP daemon would be a good idea. However, the server side configuration for most FTP daemons is a lot simpler than for Apache, so it's feasible to run ftpd out of inetd for much higher traffic than it would be for apache. Another common server where there's an option of running under inetd is Samba -- however I think the trend nowadays is to assume that the Samba daemons will run standalone. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --ZfOjI3PrQbgiZnxM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAOPRsdtESqEQa7a0RAhzxAJ9cMDbTY5e0LErtAmoHsIS/ibQv5gCfeA1e suYhGAlRO4kGBgL55WABfsA= =j3Bd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZfOjI3PrQbgiZnxM-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 10:28:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A4516A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:28:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.seekingfire.com (coyote.seekingfire.com [24.72.10.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143D643D1F for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:28:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tillman@seekingfire.com) Received: by mail.seekingfire.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 56CD823C; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 12:28:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 12:28:40 -0600 From: Tillman Hodgson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040222182840.GG27597@seekingfire.com> References: <20040221234738.U9391@ganymede.hub.org> <20040222181818.GD78736@users.munk.nu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040222181818.GD78736@users.munk.nu> X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . X-GPG-Key-ID: 828AFC7B X-GPG-Fingerprint: 5584 14BA C9EB 1524 0E68 F543 0F0A 7FBC 828A FC7B X-GPG-Key: http://www.seekingfire.com/gpg_key.asc X-Urban-Legend: There is lots of hidden information in headers User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: OT: Longest uptime X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:28:43 -0000 On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 06:18:18PM +0000, Jez Hancock wrote: > On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 11:49:22PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > > Doesn't (or didn't?) Linux have a 'feature' that allowed ppl to save their > > uptimes through a reboot? So, for instance, if it was a schedualed > > reboot, uptime still showed one continuous uptime? I'd imagine that this > > would be saved through upgrades as well ... > > There's a similar module for fbsd here: > > http://garage.freebsd.pl > > although the site appears to be down at this moment. The irony is delicious ;-) -T -- "Beauty is more important in computing than anywhere else in technology because software is so complicated. Beauty is the ultimate defense against complexity." -- David Gelernter, Machine Beauty: Elegance and the Heart of Technology From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 10:30:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7239116A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:30:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF6143D2D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:30:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1])i1MIUquV002985 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:30:52 GMT (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)id i1MIUquW002984; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:30:52 GMT (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:30:52 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman To: Chris Message-ID: <20040222183052.GC2372@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Chris , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4038CEEE.3090000@icare.com.hk> <20040222113315.5d757673.mj001@rogers.com> <200402221107.52741.racerx@makeworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="R+My9LyyhiUvIEro" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200402221107.52741.racerx@makeworld.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fail to start KDE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:30:57 -0000 --R+My9LyyhiUvIEro Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 11:07:52AM -0600, Chris wrote: > On Sunday 22 February 2004 10:33 am, Mike Jeays wrote: > > On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 23:46:54 +0800 >=20 > > > > Create a file .xinitrc in the home directory, containing the single > > line 'startkde &' (without the quotes). Then try startx again. >=20 >=20 > Kindly explain the difference between between the following in your .xini= trc=20 > file. >=20 > exec startkde > startkde & >=20 'exec startkde' replaces the .xinitrc process with the startkde process. 'startkde &' starts up a separate startkde process in the background and then continues executing the .xinitrc process. That may or may not be a good thing -- if the .xinitrc process exits (or the stardkde process that it morphs into in the first instance) then your session will be deemed to have ended and you'll be dumped back at the shell prompt. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --R+My9LyyhiUvIEro Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAOPVcdtESqEQa7a0RAvugAKCEVq9HBAMF18pV0IY20LeKuRzB7ACfRt6l OrT0a1ByPWEeRIIg4SOb7Z8= =FxAN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --R+My9LyyhiUvIEro-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 10:37:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E3F016A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:37:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from munk.nu (mail.munk.nu [213.152.51.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C8E43D2F for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:37:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from munk@munk.nu) Received: from munk by munk.nu with local (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1AuyTe-000LWe-KY; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:37:18 +0000 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:37:18 +0000 From: Jez Hancock To: Tillman Hodgson Message-ID: <20040222183718.GF78736@users.munk.nu> Mail-Followup-To: Tillman Hodgson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20040221234738.U9391@ganymede.hub.org> <20040222181818.GD78736@users.munk.nu> <20040222182840.GG27597@seekingfire.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040222182840.GG27597@seekingfire.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: Jez Hancock cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Longest uptime X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:37:20 -0000 On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 12:28:40PM -0600, Tillman Hodgson wrote: > On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 06:18:18PM +0000, Jez Hancock wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 11:49:22PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > > > > Doesn't (or didn't?) Linux have a 'feature' that allowed ppl to save their > > > uptimes through a reboot? So, for instance, if it was a schedualed > > > reboot, uptime still showed one continuous uptime? I'd imagine that this > > > would be saved through upgrades as well ... > > > > There's a similar module for fbsd here: > > > > http://garage.freebsd.pl > > > > although the site appears to be down at this moment. > > The irony is delicious ;-) LOL :P Actually that site had a module for modifying your uptime I think it was rather than saving your old uptime. -- Jez Hancock - System Administrator / PHP Developer http://munk.nu/ http://jez.hancock-family.com/ - Another FreeBSD Diary http://ipfwstats.sf.net/ - ipfw peruser traffic logging From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 10:53:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4974B16A4CF for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:53:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B6643D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:53:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wegster@mindcore.net) Received: from mindcore.net (rdu162-234-100.nc.rr.com [24.162.234.100]) i1MIrRkF004394; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 13:53:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4038FAA7.9000908@mindcore.net> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 13:53:27 -0500 From: Scott W User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20031129 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marty Landman References: <6.0.0.22.0.20040222091410.03a06988@pop.face2interface.com> In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20040222091410.03a06988@pop.face2interface.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: seeking shell scripting resources X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:53:32 -0000 Marty Landman wrote: > I'm new to running my own unix systems and would like to start > learning the ropes on shell scripting. I've looked at the handbook and > a few other sources... maybe haven't looked closely enough. > > Any recommendations on more involved manuals/explanations/examples of > how shell scripts should be developed and used? > > Marty Landman Face 2 Interface Inc 845-679-9387 > This Month's New Quiz --- Past Superbowl Winners > Make a Website: http://face2interface.com/Home/Demo.shtml > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hi Marty. There are a few tutorials out there, but I haven't seen any really good or 'complete' ones online. (There may be some, but from memory I don't remember finding any). If you're going to use Bash, give the O'Reilly 'Learning the Bash Shell' book a shot. Another one that does cover other shells is called either 'Unix Shells' or 'Unix Scripting' (don't recall which and it's at work..), which was published 2003 IIRC. Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 22 10:55:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4EC816A4D0 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:55:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from www6.web2010.com (www6.web2010.com [216.157.5.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C0443D1D for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 10:55:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from MLandman@face2interface.com) Received: from delliver.face2interface.com (dialup-wash-129-203.thebiz.net [64.30.129.203] (may be forged)) by www6.web2010.com (8.12.10/8.9.0) with ESMTP id i1MIsw89019301; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 13:54:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20040222134915.07c05868@pop.face2interface.com> X-Sender: face@pop.face2interface.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 13:55:18 -0500 To: Olaf Hoyer From: Marty Landman In-Reply-To: <20040222174400.T57042@gaff.hhhr.ision.net> References: <20040221052137.GL24309@hardesty.saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20040221092538.05e6dc48@pop.face2interface.com> <4037D5D7.8030700@mac.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20040222085418.01b94e68@pop.face2interface.com> <20040222153958.S56797@gaff.hhhr.ision.net> <6.0.0.22.0.20040222095859.03dc3c78@pop.face2interface.com> <20040222174400.T57042@gaff.hhhr.ision.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DHCP access X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:55:28 -0000 At 12:01 PM 2/22/2004, Olaf Hoyer wrote: >Well, what is f