Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:44:48 +0530 From: Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in> To: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com>, Narvi <narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee>, Dann Lunsford <dann@greycat.com>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No port of Opera? (Was: ((FreeBSD : Linux) :: (OS/2 : Windows))) Message-ID: <20000707074448.A4511@physics.iisc.ernet.in> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20000706193313.04a8ca40@localhost>; from brett@lariat.org on Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 08:11:00PM -0600 References: <Your <4.3.2.7.2.20000706103005.00e05660@localhost> <53082.962927902@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20000706193313.04a8ca40@localhost>
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I have a better idea. Let's all use opensource software. No need for emulation then. Well, it works for me anyway. Brett Glass said on Jul 6, 2000 at 20:11:00: > At 05:58 PM 7/6/2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > >Read my lips: Nobody is ever going to remove the linux compatability > >code, it's too damn useful, end of discussion. > > It *is* useful, Jordan. It's useful to ensure that FreeBSD doesn't get > native ports of applications. It's useful to maintain FreeBSD in its > position of playing second fiddle to Linux forever. And it's useful to > limit BSDi's profit potential and the extent of any rewards you > personally are likely to reap -- ever -- from your many years of hard > work on FreeBSD. > > I do NOT want to continue this thread for 300 messages, but fortunately, > there's no need to. It can all be said in a few short paragraphs. > > Jordan, by putting out an OS which emulates a stronger competitor, > while at the same time NOT providing FreeBSD API compatibility for > other OSes, you're making two strategic errors that will sabotage > not only your life's work so far but your own prospects for being > justly and fairly compensated, and duly recognized, for what you do. > That's not fair to you or to FreeBSD. > > >Not that I expect our very own Don Quixote and his donkey to resist > >tilting at this particular windmill again, at least not without firing > >at least a few shots at us for "our unbelievable short-sightedness" > >(or some such variant on the above), but I suppose I can dream. > > You *are* dreaming, Jordan, but not in the way you think. YOU are > the Quixotic one, not I, and you're dreaming in the same way Don > Quixote does in the well-known musical "Man of La Mancha:" > > To dream the impossible dream; > To fight the unbeatable foe; > To bear with unbearable sorrow; > To run where the brave dare not go.... (etc) > > Don Quixote is so immersed in his books that he loses touch with reality > -- to the extent that he doesn't even snap out of it when he tilts at > windmills until they beat him senseless. > > It really hurts to see this happen to you, especially when the beating in > this case is coming at the hands of one Richard Stallman, a nasty demagogue > if there ever was one. > > This is reality, Jordan. Linux emulation has gotten FreeBSD into serious > trouble vis a vis third party application support -- the lifeblood of any > operating environment. Only by taking correct and decisive action can it > recover from that damage. I'm not proposing that Linux emulation be cut off > instantly (since, as you say, it cannot and will not be) but rather that an > exit strategy be devised for it -- at the end of which emulation will be > neither desired nor needed by anyone. > > The only exit from the emulation trap (as I've already mentioned) involves > turning the tables and executing the same "middleware" play that Microsoft > so feared when it was executed by Sun and Netscape. Richard Stallman and the > FSF are every bit as predatory and desirous of an all-encompassing empire > as is Bill Gates, and only the same techniques that threatened to keep > Microsoft in check will work to counter Linux's utter dominance in the > sphere were FreeBSD should be thriving. Capisch? > > --Brett Glass > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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