From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 9 08:56:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E3B416A41F for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 08:56:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de) Received: from ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de (ms-2.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9055B43D80 for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 08:56:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de) Received: from r220-1 (r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.31]) by ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IR800IG53I1YO@ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2005 09:56:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from relay.rwth-aachen.de ([134.130.3.1]) by r220-1 (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Fri, 09 Dec 2005 09:56:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from bigboss.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (bigspace.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.181.2]) by relay.rwth-aachen.de (8.13.3/8.13.3/1) with ESMTP id jB98uORW005506; Fri, 09 Dec 2005 09:56:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from lorien.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de ([137.226.181.92] helo=haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de) by bigboss.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1Eke3E-0007Dn-Rj; Fri, 09 Dec 2005 09:56:24 +0100 Received: by haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 830483F40A; Fri, 09 Dec 2005 09:55:54 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 09:55:54 +0100 From: Christian Brueffer In-reply-to: <4398CA29.3070602@jim-liesl.org> To: secmgr Message-id: <20051209085554.GA942@unixpages.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary=qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE X-PGP-Key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D References: <20051208001857.68ac4fef.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> <20051208133100.GC912@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> <20051208194915.GC948@unixpages.org> <4398CA29.3070602@jim-liesl.org> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 as storage server with raid5? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 08:56:50 -0000 --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 05:04:57PM -0700, secmgr wrote: > Christian Brueffer wrote: >=20 > >>On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 12:18:57AM +0100, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > >> =20 > >> > >>In short, don't write gvinum off just yet. Documentation is around the > >>corner (as a result of a SoC project). > >> =20 > >> > > > >Actually gvinum(8) has been committed to CURRENT and RELENG_6 a couple > >of days ago. > > > >- Christian > >=20 > > > Whatever you do, don't complain about it on this list, or you'll just be= =20 > told that if you really wanted raid, you should be running SCSI disks=20 > and a raid adapter. They may allow that 3ware does ok, but no ATA drive= =20 > should ever be relied on and even s/w raid on scsi is only for ignorant= =20 > lusers who are too cheap to do the "right thing". >=20 > Those who think I run to hyperbole need only visit the archives. One=20 > can only hope that gvinum actually works in 6 vs the buggy and=20 > incomplete alpha code that shipped in 5.x. Having a man page is nice,=20 > but I'd rather have a raid 5 set that didn't panic the system and=20 > corrupt the set when it lost a drive (and this with modern scsi drives=20 > and adapter). I'd strongly suggest anyone using GEOM raid to do some=20 > fault insertion testing of their setup prior to actually relying on it. >=20 Hmm, wasn't that a bug in the 5.3-RELEASE version that was fixed shortly after the release? - Christian --=20 Christian Brueffer chris@unixpages.org brueffer@FreeBSD.org GPG Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc GPG Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDmUaabHYXjKDtmC0RAkj2AKC1GWUnFADOf3tdjBau1JyFayi2qQCeJduI wSvzlsb3QUQV/dlt87dQbjA= =puWC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS--