From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 20 06:49:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471C3106566B for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 06:49:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ttsestt@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB8CF8FC16 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 06:49:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxe4 with SMTP id 4so3153039fxe.13 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2011 23:49:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=GjPSGoANRONGQS9/1MtbDAGOM4VVGt7S/Mw0m4fsQDU=; b=miHvPlSjLIaUlWZow+q7FcmpQag3G1b1J2npSXqyKIOIaVeuOAf5bW2JomwM014f0b x3/8amE8Zyw89OroBjy0HmBi7OY/htAceHT6sAy765q+sGWRZ/Gsn77ANz5XOO9O3WJk s3kAoESUySI7AuYNJIiRBstHDVyppgK6f4WQY= Received: by 10.223.85.145 with SMTP id o17mr444056fal.16.1313822966693; Fri, 19 Aug 2011 23:49:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (tor-exit-relay-proxy.nds.ruhr-uni-bochum.de [134.147.198.10]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b14sm3142164fab.43.2011.08.19.23.49.22 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 19 Aug 2011 23:49:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Test Rat To: Evan Busch References: Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 10:49:09 +0400 In-Reply-To: (Evan Busch's message of "Fri, 19 Aug 2011 23:47:04 -0500") Message-ID: <86wre8inmi.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A quality operating system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 06:49:28 -0000 Evan Busch writes: [...] > Even when you get big parts of the operating system correct, it's the > thousand little details that have been forgotten, ignored or snootily > written off that add up to many hours of frustration for the end user. > This is not necessary frustration, and they get nothing out of it. It > seems to exist because of the emotional and social attitudes of the > FreeBSD team. There is an ongoing discussion on arch@ about this. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2011-August/011412.html