From owner-freebsd-chat Wed May 3 18:16: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp01.primenet.com (smtp01.primenet.com [206.165.6.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF59E37B9D1 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 18:16:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr01.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp01.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA09442; Wed, 3 May 2000 18:15:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr01.primenet.com(206.165.6.201) via SMTP by smtp01.primenet.com, id smtpdAAATca4fs; Wed May 3 18:15:31 2000 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr01.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA02317; Wed, 3 May 2000 18:15:31 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <200005040115.SAA02317@usr01.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Naw, Netscape doesn't have a memory problem! To: brett@lariat.org (Brett Glass) Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 01:15:30 +0000 (GMT) Cc: allenc@verinet.com (Allen Campbell), freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.2.20000503120120.0410c100@localhost> from "Brett Glass" at May 03, 2000 12:04:11 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >I've installed Netscape 6 beta 1 on winblows 95 and 98, Debian > >(2.2) and Caldera. What are you talking about? Perhaps you've > >nurtured some kludged up mess of a box that's unlikely to run > >notepad with any stability? > > Nonsense. This was after a clean install of Windows 98 SE on > a new 600 MHz Athlon. The machine runs everything else perfectly. There's no such thing as a "clean" install of Windows 98. I've become convinced that Windows 98 was intentionally destabilized in order to promote sales of Windows 2000; you are more likely to put up with the performance hit from the 98 to 2000 switch if it makes your system more stable. A large corporation who shall remain nameless and therefore blameless has a policy of deploying only Windows 95 on new systems, for stability reasons. FWIW, I have seen Netscape crash a number of times. If you run IE while running Netscape, you will almost inevitably get a "this program has performed an illegal operation error", wiithe the "Details>>" button showing that the error occured "VCRTL42.DLL" (the Visual C++ run time library) or "KERNEL32.DLL" (the Windows kernel). > >I keep hearing this predictable blather > >about Netscape 6 and wondering just how cruel I have to be to a > >system to reproduce these `crashes', but I have yet to experience > >it. It's certainly not perfect but it rivals 4.x for stability. > > Not in my experience. Netscape's best developers are gone, and AOL > cares little about it since it's not a money maker. Frankly, I'm > surprised that they haven't just killed it off as a sacrifice to > the Great God Microsoft. Or maybe that's what they're doing -- > in an unusually slow and painful manner. I doubt it. It's probably just programmer availability; working for AOL is just not as sexy as working for Netscape was. A lot of big companies are in the same boat, with money to burn for people but no people lining up to take it. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message