From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 6 03:38:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D809E23 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 03:38:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-pb0-x229.google.com (mail-pb0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c01::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70E95243C for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 03:38:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id rp2so5691941pbb.28 for ; Sat, 05 Oct 2013 20:38:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=FFrcrDZq5YaEk2W1wdFFwUEqfFQ9SlKA8CF8RhlRjIA=; b=f4Fz27nC5gGwqqt2Jx28cEWhuet2e5EOsWwC1WZ7hFUTVgGceJuMpygHf+sWPC0q4R 9/vlxn3pdFvsk1a3JvXx+WhtM9OjGGBg7pfO8FiPTOAo3AWvFPPPz78pQTYO/MqMehco UEYrs/gG0YsN1HGBZc8jWsMd+seveoQ7wf5EI= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=FFrcrDZq5YaEk2W1wdFFwUEqfFQ9SlKA8CF8RhlRjIA=; b=lryhfl3KY5l5TcCOsQP3MBrrvOXtrK0vMkdgrIMOU/CB6/dV/E6+oxxJ/qOKLhSgI8 otMFw+ekpYzP+KTjJuTlhFyZhZ56WV0J+2JdUd24/yKuxNPwnSTAEBY3jslpVUPbGD1v By9F7/2AmKcDT5VnXp96pCqbR3HU88meU2K6GC6iinltnEgk8x4jkgXEdOQwIgQWbtv5 m2fRNovjJO+fitjkA32zuXy4VDxqe3Szw7VIXa+/2jRgecpOSgYhYjkd5RtvgKhgPQo1 KBQNNrieujqh45YL2tRpz3L7diYkdbsuOVabBhloapVyYMhbBUjGdBaBSLnBYlkYqLYk vYVA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlf5v2Ouhw4oDEMGBTGPsOSJ9PuAPhtEe1RYqIIn4pL5CzemZ3ywvw69MNrujmJbuV6ylNz X-Received: by 10.68.229.2 with SMTP id sm2mr23125198pbc.68.1381030702141; Sat, 05 Oct 2013 20:38:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.70.6.3 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Oct 2013 20:37:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20131006102955.4191e4a4@X220.ovitrap.com> References: <201310031535.r93FZ6D1095088@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20131003153825.GB1581@oldfaithful.bebik.local> <5250BA2E.3030409@FreeBSD.org> <20131006102955.4191e4a4@X220.ovitrap.com> From: Eitan Adler Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2013 23:37:52 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: About FreeBSD.org visitors To: Erich Dollansky Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, koobs@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 03:38:22 -0000 On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: >> Among other things, marking actions on pages with GA labels will >> differentiate many of these cases from the pathological and begins to >> place 'our user goals' *first* as the primary definition of success. >> >> You cant manage or improve what you dont measure. > > I disagree here. A website is not a piece of engineering. Yes it is. Of a different type. Here is an introduction to the topic of "Website Engineering": http://www.nngroup.com/articles/usability-101-introduction-to-usability/ -- Eitan Adler