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Date:      Mon, 16 Jun 2014 14:07:15 -0500
From:      Eric Neblock <cen5848@louisiana.edu>
To:        Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au>, hiren panchasara <hiren.panchasara@gmail.com>
Cc:        "freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org" <freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Missing: hw.acpi.thermal.tz%d._HOT
Message-ID:  <539F4063.3070107@louisiana.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20140614013631.J10629@sola.nimnet.asn.au>
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On 06/13/2014 11:22 AM, Ian Smith wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:28:33 -0700, hiren panchasara wrote:
>  > On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Eric Neblock <cen5848@louisiana.edu> wrote:
>  > > On Wed, 2014-06-11 at 01:33 +1000, Ian Smith wrote:
>  > >> On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 09:54:14 -0500, Eric Neblock wrote:
>  > >>  > Hello all,
>  > >>  >   I'm trying to figure out what is the _HOT temperature on my particular
>  > >>  > processor. I'm running FreeBSD 10 GENERIC on a Sunfire X2200.
>  > >>  >
>  > >>  > The processor is an Dual Core AMD Opteron 2218.
>  > >>  >
>  > >>  > In the GENERIC kernel, acpi is built in; so, kldload acpi fails. I've
>  > >>  > also loaded the amdtemp module at boot time to figure out what the
>  > >>  > current temp of the processor is.
>  > >>  >
>  > >>  > With all of that, when performing `sysctl -a` I never seem to be able to
>  > >>  > pull up the _HOT value.
>  > >>  >
>  > >>  > Are there any suggestions on how to be able to view it?
>  > >>
>  > >> Many thermal zones seen, including some CPUs, don't specify any _HOT
>  > >> value, just _PSV and _CRT, which should trigger passive cooling (eg
>  > >> clock slowing or throttling) and emergency shutdown, respectively.
>  > >>
>  > >> What says 'sysctl hw.acpi.thermal' ?
>  > >>
>  > >> cheers, Ian
>  > >
>  > > The result is as follows:
>  > >
>  > > sysctl: Unknown oid 'hw.acpi.thermal' : No such file or directory
>  > 
>  > Similar thing here at home desktop running -CURRENT:
>  > 
>  > CPU: AMD FX(tm)-8350 Eight-Core Processor            (4000.24-MHz K8-class CPU)
>  >   Origin="AuthenticAMD"  Id=0x600f20  Family=0x15  Model=0x2  Stepping=0
>  > 
>  > acpi0: <7596MS A7596100> on motherboard
>  > 
>  > Other related bits:
>  > 
>  > # sysctl hw.acpi
>  > hw.acpi.supported_sleep_state: S3 S4 S5
>  > hw.acpi.power_button_state: S5
>  > hw.acpi.sleep_button_state: S3
>  > hw.acpi.lid_switch_state: NONE
>  > hw.acpi.standby_state: NONE
>  > hw.acpi.suspend_state: S3
>  > hw.acpi.sleep_delay: 1
>  > hw.acpi.s4bios: 0
>  > hw.acpi.verbose: 0
>  > hw.acpi.disable_on_reboot: 0
>  > hw.acpi.handle_reboot: 0
>  > hw.acpi.reset_video: 0
>  > hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C8
>  > #
>  > 
>  > # sysctl dev.amdtemp
>  > dev.amdtemp.0.%desc: AMD CPU On-Die Thermal Sensors
>  > dev.amdtemp.0.%driver: amdtemp
>  > dev.amdtemp.0.%parent: hostb4
>  > dev.amdtemp.0.sensor_offset: 0
>  > dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 15.3C
>  > 
>  > # sysctl -a dev.cpu | grep temp
>  > dev.cpu.0.temperature: 15.2C
>  > dev.cpu.1.temperature: 15.2C
>  > dev.cpu.2.temperature: 15.2C
>  > dev.cpu.3.temperature: 15.2C
>  > dev.cpu.4.temperature: 15.2C
>  > dev.cpu.5.temperature: 15.2C
>  > dev.cpu.6.temperature: 15.2C
>  > dev.cpu.7.temperature: 15.2C
>  > 
>  > I am not sure how this ^ relates to what acpi reports under thermal.
> 
> Well first, unless you've just turned it on, it's idling and lives in a 
> refrigerator or coldroom, those temperatures are at best a third of the 
> minimum I'd expect to see reported .. and they wouldn't all be the same.
> 
> And neither of these are reporting hw.acpi.thermal .. is it because the 
> BIOS / ACPI doesn't present thermal zone information?  Or there aren't 
> suitable drivers to interpret it?  I've no idea, but does seem curious.
> 
> Any output from?
> # acpidump -dt | egrep -i 'TZ|thermal'

I also got the same results as Hiren. I'll attach my results as well.

Eric

> If so, you might want to put your full ASL up somewhere.  Note: I'm not 
> at all qualified to interpret it, just that I'd expect there to be some; 
> eg on a Lenovo X200 (Core2 Duo):
> root@x200:~ # acpidump -dt | egrep -i 'TZ|thermal'
>                         Notify (\_TZ.THM0, 0x80)
>                         Notify (\_TZ.THM1, 0x80)
>                         Notify (\_TZ.THM0, 0x80)
>                         Notify (\_TZ.THM1, 0x80)
>                     "AdaptiveThermalManagementAC"
>                     "AdaptiveThermalManagementBattery"
>         Notify (\_TZ.THM0, 0x80)
>         Notify (\_TZ.THM1, 0x80)
>                 Notify (\_TZ.THM1, 0x80)
>                 Notify (\_TZ.THM0, 0x81)
>     Scope (\_TZ)
>         ThermalZone (THM0)
>         ThermalZone (THM1)
>                     Return (\_TZ.THM0._TMP ())
>             Notify (\_TZ.THM0, 0x80)
> 
> cheers, Ian
> 




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