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Date:      Sun, 26 Nov 1995 15:37:10 -0800
From:      Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TCP) <lyndon@orthanc.com>
To:        peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
Cc:        hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: More nits 
Message-ID:  <199511262337.PAA13606@multivac.orthanc.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 25 Nov 1995 19:27:50 CST." <199511260127.TAA28662@bonkers.taronga.com> 

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>>>>> "Peter" == Peter da Silva <peter@taronga.com> writes:

    Peter> a "gnu bonus pack" with all the "standard" gnu tools would
    Peter> be good.

How do you handle namespace collisions? I would agree with this
iff the utilities were installed somewhere outside of the standard
PATH (i.e. in /usr/gnu/bin).

    Peter> a "tcl/tk bonus pack" is of course required, tcl, tk,
    Peter> tcldp, expect, ...

TCL and TK are useful enough that they should be part of the base
distribution (as is perl).

    Peter> a "gnu developer" pack, with gmake and so on...

Well, just about everything developer related already *is* GNU. Make
is one of the few that isn't there by default. I'm not a big fan of
GNU make (the 4.4BSD make is much more elegant) and would prefer not
to encourage its use.

    Peter> a "gnu X" pack, ghostview, ghostscript, ...

This should probably be a generic "Postscript" package.

    Peter> a "mh" pack, with mh, vmail, xmh, ...

As long as xmh will be ignored properly on systems that don't have
X installed.


My biggest complaint with the ports stuff right now is the way it
scribbles all over /usr/local. Even worse, it isn't consistent (e.g.
binaries installed in /usr/bin and support stuff under /usr/local/lib).
/usr/local should be HANDS OFF to the vendor-supplied software, something
I consider "ports" to be.

The ports software should be configured to install into either the
standard directory tree, or into a seperate /usr/ports hierarchy.

--lyndon



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