From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 7 04:31:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3699016A4E3 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 04:31:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp004.bizmail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp004.bizmail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.175.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1756A43D2F for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 04:31:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from noackjr@alumni.rice.edu) Received: from unknown (HELO optimator.noacks.org) (noackjr@supercrime.org@70.240.179.20 with login) by smtp004.bizmail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jul 2004 04:31:52 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0346061BD; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 23:31:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from optimator.noacks.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (optimator.noacks.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03818-03; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 23:31:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from compgeek.noacks.org (compgeek [192.168.1.10]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF3656171; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 23:31:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by compgeek.noacks.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i674VmuG001914; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 23:31:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from noackjr@alumni.rice.edu) Message-ID: <40EB7CB4.1040005@alumni.rice.edu> Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 23:31:48 -0500 From: Jon Noack User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (X11/20040629) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Kargl References: <20040706231358.GA38356@dragon.nuxi.com> <20040707031735.GA3540@frontfree.net> <20040707041220.GA35497@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <20040707041220.GA35497@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at noacks.org cc: Oliver Eikemeier cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: Rob Subject: Re: Rewrite cvsup & portupgrade in C X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: noackjr@alumni.rice.edu List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 04:31:53 -0000 On 07/06/04 23:12, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 11:17:35AM +0800, Xin LI wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 06, 2004 at 04:13:58PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: >>> On Tue, Jul 06, 2004 at 01:37:12AM -0000, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: >>>> I'd like to note that Maxime (mux@) is working on csup (and >>>> it's mostly finished from what I hear); a C implementation of >>>> cvsup. >>> >>> It only mimics CVSup 'check out' mode. It doesn't know how to >>> mirror the ,v files. >> >> I personally think this is enough for an average user who wants C >> implementation in base system :-) > > Is it really too hard to do > 1) pkgadd -r cvsup > 2) or use sysinstall to install cvsup > 3) or portinstall cvsup > 4) or cd /usr/ports/net/cvsup && make install I don't really care either way whether c(v)sup is in the base system. The biggest win with csup is getting away from Modula-3. I don't know enough about Modula-3 to have an educated opinion on it, but I do know it takes a long time to compile and consumes a lot of space on my hard drive even when using ezm (the following are in bytes): $ pkg_info -qs ezm3-1.1_2 23135765 $ pkg_info -qs cvsup-without-gui-16.1h 2392189 Considering cvsup is the only thing I have that uses Modula-3, going the csup route would save me time and space. Jon