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Date:      Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:01:55 +1100
From:      Peter Jeremy <peterjeremy@optushome.com.au>
To:        "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        gallatin@cs.duke.edu
Subject:   Re: 40% slowdown with dynamic /bin/sh
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On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 11:16:07PM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote:
>Hmmmm, It looks like the hit is less than 10% in the fork intensive
>test I just wrote:
>
>#!/bin/sh
>for i in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9; do
>    for j in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9; do
>        for k in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9; do
>             for l in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9; do
>                 for m in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9; do
>                      for n in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9; do
>                        true;
>done; done; done; done; done; done;

Unless you've done something wierd to your /bin/sh, "true" is a
builtin.  This test just to measures the ongoing runtime overhead
of a dynamic executable (ie PIC code).  Drew's test was measuring
the startup overhead.

>Clearly dynamic is slower, but it is more like 11% slower (10.67%) on
>the average than 40% slower.  I think this would be a more typical
>usage pattern.

You have measured different things.  Drew's test shows that a dynamic
/bin/sh tahes about 40% longer to start.  Your test shows that once
started, it runs about 11% slower.  And the 11% slower is _very_
worrying since it is probably more widely applicable than just /bin/sh.

Peter



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