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Date:      Mon, 12 Jan 2015 17:42:34 +0000
From:      "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bz@FreeBSD.org>
To:        John Baldwin <john@baldwin.cx>
Cc:        "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@freebsd.org>, John Nielsen <lists@jnielsen.net>, Bryan Venteicher <bryanv@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r272886 - in head/sys: netinet netinet6
Message-ID:  <88ADFC71-FD44-4012-9814-1771D31646FF@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <6173473.uE5Sr5nj0c@ralph.baldwin.cx>
References:  <201410100609.s9A690NU067686@svn.freebsd.org> <54AC6F4E.1000707@FreeBSD.org> <CAGaYwLezj6J8AJKFo9wbw3Z-gf8=ip418E%2BvPqr09AZ3f7hsbQ@mail.gmail.com> <6173473.uE5Sr5nj0c@ralph.baldwin.cx>

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> On 12 Jan 2015, at 15:51 , John Baldwin <john@baldwin.cx> wrote:
>=20
> On Tuesday, January 06, 2015 07:07:11 PM Bryan Venteicher wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@freebsd.org> =
wrote:
>>> On 1/6/2015 4:00 PM, Bryan Venteicher wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:52 PM, John Nielsen <lists@jnielsen.net
>>>>=20
>>>> <mailto:lists@jnielsen.net>> wrote:
>>>>    Bryan-
>>>>=20
>>>>    On Oct 10, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Bryan Venteicher =
<bryanv@freebsd.org
>>>>=20
>>>>    <mailto:bryanv@freebsd.org>> wrote:
>>>>> Author: bryanv
>>>>> Date: Fri Oct 10 06:08:59 2014
>>>>> New Revision: 272886
>>>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/272886
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Log:
>>>>> Add context pointer and source address to the UDP tunnel callback
>>>>>=20
>>>>> These are needed for the forthcoming vxlan implementation. The
>>>=20
>>> context
>>>=20
>>>>> pointer means we do not have to use a spare pointer field in the
>>>=20
>>> inpcb,
>>>=20
>>>>> and the source address is required to populate vxlan's forwarding
>>>=20
>>> table.
>>>=20
>>>>> While I highly doubt there is an out of tree consumer of the UDP
>>>>> tunneling callback, this change may be a difficult to eventually
>>>=20
>>> MFC.
>>>=20
>>>>    I noticed this comment while doing an MFC of vxlan to my local =
tree.
>>>>    Do you think an MFC to 10-STABLE of this change (and vxlan
>>>>    generally) will be feasible? Is there precedent for ABI changes =
like
>>>>    this being sanctioned? Could symbol versioning help?
>>>>=20
>>>> I'd like to get some consensus on whether this commit is OK to MFC. =
With
>>>> this commit, vxlan should be an easy to MFC.
>>>=20
>>> Breaking ABI will potentially hurt packages. FreeBSD builds packages =
for
>>> the oldest supported release on a branch. If you break ABI in 10.2 =
while
>>> we are building packages for 10.1 then any packages using these
>>> interfaces may not work right or result in panics packages with =
kmods.
>>> Please consider that.
>>=20
>> The only user visible change of this commit would be the addition of =
a
>> field at the end of 'struct udpcb'. I don't think that is a problem, =
at
>> least a similar change didn't prevent the MFC of UDP Lite.
>>=20
>> The kernel part of this changes the UDP tunneling functions which I =
guess
>> there could be a 3rd party module out there, but I very highly doubt =
that,
>> based on how un-useful the previous interface was.
>=20
> Userland should not be impacted by this at all.  (Nothing in userland =
cares
> about udpcb's internals.)  I think there was only ever one consumer =
for the=20
> existing UDP tunneling code (bz@ knows what it is).  I'm not sure =
where it=20
> lives.

If you are talking about u_tun_func then it came from SCTP over UDP =
tunneling.  tuexen and rrs are your friends.

I was wondering if it could be used similarly for IPsec UDPencap but I =
think that went nowhere back then.

=E2=80=94=20
Bjoern A. Zeeb                                  Charles Haddon Spurgeon:
"Friendship is one of the sweetest joys of life.  Many might have failed
 beneath the bitterness of their trial  had they not found a friend."




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